Author Topic: Ultimate Workshop Tour (Read 13621 times)

Jim Kirkpatrick · « **on:** December 16, 2019, 05:56 PM »

Just when you think you have it pretty gall darn good, there's always someone who has it better...
EDIT: This video was taken down at the behest of the shop owner... $:-\$

DynaGlide · « **Reply #1 on:** December 16, 2019, 07:14 PM »

Speechless.

Cheese · « **Reply #2 on:** December 16, 2019, 07:26 PM »

Speechless II...

What I’d like to know is what project is that other guy working on when the home owner has all this equipment?

An in-ground pool maybe? A runway for a personal plane?

Every other project could be performed by the home owner.

Mario Turcot · « **Reply #3 on:** December 16, 2019, 07:28 PM »

That dove tail jig is pretty interesting

Cheese · « **Reply #4 on:** December 16, 2019, 07:32 PM »

Quote from: Mario Turcot on December 16, 2019, 07:28 PM

That dove tail jig is pretty interesting

My thought exactly Mario. The dovetail box thing is now a lot more interesting.

https://kellerdovetail.com/models.html

DynaGlide · « **Reply #5 on:** December 16, 2019, 08:45 PM »

Quote from: Cheese on December 16, 2019, 07:26 PM

Speechless II...

What I’d like to know is what project is that other guy working on when the home owner has all this equipment?

An in-ground pool maybe?

Every other project could be performed by the home owner.

A lot of suspicious comments along those lines on the video if you go to YouTube. It's like watching American Pickers. You want to believe it's real but you know it isn't. Something fishy going on with this arrangement.

I wanted to build something like that vacuum system. Someone posted about the company that makes it a while back. It's ultra expensive.

ForumMFG · « **Reply #6 on:** December 16, 2019, 09:23 PM »

That guys has way too much money. Ive never seen a small shop like that have so much high tech equipment. Unreal.

Mario Turcot · « **Reply #7 on:** December 16, 2019, 09:25 PM »

@Cheese I have two of these

and when I saw the dovetail jig I knew it would be a perfect application to put them in use

From L.V.

Gone · « **Reply #8 on:** December 17, 2019, 06:28 AM »

The owner of the shop is real and a member of the original FOG (Felder Owners Group). He has all the equipment. The video showed up on our site too. The premise of the video is suspect since nothing about the trim job was ever mentioned except in the comments. Another bit of click bait for You Tube hits. Its amazing how many of these shops are around. They typically are owned by Doctors of all professions and are better equipped than most professional woodworking shops trying to make a living and not playing.

Bert Vanderveen · « **Reply #9 on:** December 17, 2019, 07:08 AM »

The guy could have spent his money on a Maserati… This is way cooler.

VirTERM · « **Reply #10 on:** December 17, 2019, 07:20 AM »

Quote from: Bert Vanderveen on December 17, 2019, 07:08 AM

The guy could have spent his money on a Maserati… This is way cooler.

Unless he already owns one...

egmiii · « **Reply #11 on:** December 17, 2019, 09:03 AM »

Shops like this are rare in the hobbyist community, but not unheard of. I'd estimate that several dozen members of the other FOG have similar setups. Personally speaking, I could have purchased a lifetime of furniture and cabinetry for what my tools cost. But saving money isn't the point. As a full time engineer, working behind a computer 10 hours a day, one becomes a bit disconnected from the physical world. In my spare time, I like to pursue hobbies that are both intellectually stimulating and require a bit of hands on hard work. Woodworking is a great outlet for both, which increases my overall happiness and physical well being. It's hard to put a price on that.

I'll venture a guess that many owners of these high end shops have a similar rational.

Cheese · « **Reply #12 on:** December 17, 2019, 09:44 AM »

Quote from: DynaGlide on December 16, 2019, 08:45 PM

I wanted to build something like that vacuum system. Someone posted about the company that makes it a while back. It's ultra expensive.

I think that vac system uses Nordfab ducting. A manual Nordfab 6" blast gate runs $55, while the automatic version runs $600.

It's pretty nice stuff, it's leak free and sections connect together quickly just using an over-center clamp.

https://www.quick-fit-ducting.com/media/nordfab-pdf/technical-manual.pdf

Gone · « **Reply #13 on:** December 17, 2019, 10:31 AM »

Both the vacuum table and the press are from Barth which might be owned by Martin now. The Barth vacuum table was probably around $8,000.00 and the Multipress would be $20,000.00+. A very extravagant hobby shop but who cares its his money to do with as he pleases. The great thing is that when he's done playing there will be a lot of affordable great equipment on the used market.

Mario Turcot · « **Reply #14 on:** December 17, 2019, 11:41 AM »

any ways, real or not that dovetail jig was simply amazing

egmiii · « **Reply #15 on:** December 17, 2019, 11:56 AM »

Two different people. To the best of my knowledge, about 100 or so Barth 500v tables exist in the US.

Svar · « **Reply #16 on:** December 17, 2019, 12:06 PM »

Quote from: DynaGlide on December 17, 2019, 11:50 AM

Maybe the whole 'project bid' from the OP is just a ploy to drive subscribers to the "Extreme Woodworker" channel. Whole thing stinks.

Enough with conspiracy theories. Someone showing a shop, so what. Thousands of videos like this.
Extreme Woodworker is a member here on FOG, very professional, great videos.

egmiii · « **Reply #17 on:** December 17, 2019, 12:07 PM »

Not quite the same. Similar capabilities and style, but significantly different price points for many items. ExtremeWoodworker has a world class shop, but the gentleman in the most recent video is on another level. Easily double the total.

DynaGlide · « **Reply #18 on:** December 17, 2019, 12:09 PM »

Quote from: Svar on December 17, 2019, 12:06 PM

Quote from: DynaGlide on December 17, 2019, 11:50 AM
Maybe the whole 'project bid' from the OP is just a ploy to drive subscribers to the "Extreme Woodworker" channel. Whole thing stinks.
Enough with conspiracy theories. Someone showing a shop, so what. Thousands of videos like this.
Extreme Woodworker is a member here on FOG, very professional.

I was out of line and retracted my comments. I made a mistake. I personally don't have anything against these guys showing off their shops. I'd have the same setup if I had the money. Some guys find joy in expensive cars, others in tools.

egmiii · « **Reply #19 on:** December 17, 2019, 12:21 PM »

Quote from: DynaGlide on December 17, 2019, 12:09 PM

Quote from: Svar on December 17, 2019, 12:06 PM
Quote from: DynaGlide on December 17, 2019, 11:50 AM
Maybe the whole 'project bid' from the OP is just a ploy to drive subscribers to the "Extreme Woodworker" channel. Whole thing stinks.
Enough with conspiracy theories. Someone showing a shop, so what. Thousands of videos like this.
Extreme Woodworker is a member here on FOG, very professional.

I was out of line and retracted my comments. I made a mistake. I personally don't have anything against these guys showing off their shops. I'd have the same setup if I had the money. Some guys find joy in expensive cars, others in tools.

Unfortunately the negativity expressed by individuals in the YouTube comments and other forums will trickle back to the shop owners. My guess is they will be hesitant to share again. As a community we all lose when those with passion and some great ideas retract into the shadows. Sure, 99% of the viewers don't own comparable tools, but there are always gems to be found. His dovetail jig was a perfect example. That's within the reach of many here.

Hopefully ExtremeWoodworker finds some time to post new content. I've watched all of his videos...learned a ton.

DynaGlide · « **Reply #20 on:** December 17, 2019, 12:29 PM »

Quote from: egmiii on December 17, 2019, 12:21 PM

Unfortunately the negativity expressed by individuals in the YouTube comments and other forums will trickle back to the shop owners. My guess is they will be hesitant to share again. As a community we all lose when those with passion and some great ideas retract into the shadows. Sure, 99% of the viewers don't own comparable tools, but there are always gems to be found. His dovetail jig was a perfect example. That's within the reach of many here.

Hopefully ExtremeWoodworker finds some time to post new content. I've watched all of his videos...learned a ton.

No argument there. And I just found a new channel to dig through the content.

I'm pretty sure if I posted my tiny shop up on YouTube I'd get all sorts of people coming after me with their negativity. I didn't even know some of these machines existed until watching the video from the OP.

Svar · « **Reply #21 on:** December 17, 2019, 01:01 PM »

This reminds me of my shop. I have a lot of the same tools. These for example:

Similarity ends there.

Mark Katz · « **Reply #22 on:** December 17, 2019, 02:43 PM »

Quote from: Svar on December 17, 2019, 01:01 PM

This reminds me of my shop. I have a lot of the same tools. These for example:

Those are the beater chisels he uses for opening cans of finish.

Svar · « **Reply #23 on:** December 17, 2019, 02:48 PM »

Quote from: Mark Katz on December 17, 2019, 02:43 PM

Quote from: Svar on December 17, 2019, 01:01 PM
This reminds me of my shop. I have a lot of the same tools. These for example:
Those are the beater chisels he uses for opening cans of finish.

My Marples are my good chisels

Gone · « **Reply #24 on:** December 17, 2019, 07:17 PM »

Quote from: egmiii on December 17, 2019, 12:21 PM

Quote from: DynaGlide on December 17, 2019, 12:09 PM
Quote from: Svar on December 17, 2019, 12:06 PM
Quote from: DynaGlide on December 17, 2019, 11:50 AM
Maybe the whole 'project bid' from the OP is just a ploy to drive subscribers to the "Extreme Woodworker" channel. Whole thing stinks.
Enough with conspiracy theories. Someone showing a shop, so what. Thousands of videos like this.
Extreme Woodworker is a member here on FOG, very professional.

I was out of line and retracted my comments. I made a mistake. I personally don't have anything against these guys showing off their shops. I'd have the same setup if I had the money. Some guys find joy in expensive cars, others in tools.

Unfortunately the negativity expressed by individuals in the YouTube comments and other forums will trickle back to the shop owners. My guess is they will be hesitant to share again. As a community we all lose when those with passion and some great ideas retract into the shadows. Sure, 99% of the viewers don't own comparable tools, but there are always gems to be found. His dovetail jig was a perfect example. That's within the reach of many here.

Hopefully ExtremeWoodworker finds some time to post new content. I've watched all of his videos...learned a ton.

Read the right forums, understand what you are being told by the people in the know, ask the right questions and you too can make videos. Extreme woodworker is far from extreme but does have time to make videos from what he has learned from others. He's just like a lot of hobbiest trying to make it in the You Tube world. Try making a living in the woodworking world today, that's extreme. LOL

Svar · « **Reply #25 on:** December 17, 2019, 07:30 PM »

Quote from: kcufstoidi on December 17, 2019, 07:17 PM

Extreme woodworker is far from extreme but does have time to make videos from what he has learned from others. He's just like a lot of hobbiest trying to make it in the You Tube world. Try making a living in the woodworking world today, that's extreme. LOL

I'm pretty sure he is a professional.

egmiii · « **Reply #26 on:** December 17, 2019, 07:42 PM »

Quote from: Svar on December 17, 2019, 07:30 PM

Quote from: kcufstoidi on December 17, 2019, 07:17 PM
Extreme woodworker is far from extreme but does have time to make videos from what he has learned from others. He's just like a lot of hobbiest trying to make it in the You Tube world. Try making a living in the woodworking world today, that's extreme. LOL
I'm pretty sure he is a professional.

Depends upon what you mean by professional, but from what I recall, woodworking was not his primary occupation. Just a life long hobby, at a high level.

martin felder · « **Reply #27 on:** December 17, 2019, 08:59 PM »

That is my shop. I was told that video was re-posted here. I am a member of this group, but posting under a different account I just created as my username is my real name. In this case, I do not want my name associated with that video and the associated negative comments about me. I just had Richard, the guy who has that Youtube channel post a comment on my behalf that is pinned and you can read it.

You may know that some think of you as "rich guys" with "more money than brains" etc. for being "Festfools" for buying this "overpriced" equipment instead of Porter Cable and DeWalt.

For those of you that have provided me with information here, many thanks. I always value help and advice, something I was able to get a lot of in the Felder Owners Group in particular over the years. Richard of DFW Crown impressed me as a very talented trim guy and I figured I could learn from him. So many different skill sets involving the use of wood - and the skills for trim are different than for cabinetmaking and furniture making and chair making and guitar building etc.

I am glad someone picked up on my dovetail jig setup. I really like using that with a router table. Very easy and very accurate. But of course, that is not the same level of craftsmanship as the dovetails on Andy Rae's tool cabinet.

martin felder · « **Reply #28 on:** December 17, 2019, 09:42 PM »

These are the jigs for the Keller. FYI

martin felder · « **Reply #29 on:** December 17, 2019, 09:44 PM »

Another picture