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Re: Transit Van Fit Out - GunnyR
« Reply #30 on: May 11, 2021, 12:20 PM »
You guys are making me reconsider getting an f150. Will 4 by 8s fit in any transit (not Connect)? From my reading there is about 126 inches behind the seat for the short version. So it seems so.

The van gives me the ability to securely and safely carry both materials and tools.  I no longer have to crawl around in the dark trying to dig out seldom used tools.  Now I can get to all my tools without unloading half the vehicle!

Take a look at my 26 Jan post.  4x8 sheets fit easily even with the bulkhead and storage area.  10' stock fits easily the way I am configured.  Without the bulkhead I could get 16' trim in.  Mine is a 148" wheelbase but is not the extended version.
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Re: Transit Van Fit Out - GunnyR
« Reply #31 on: May 13, 2021, 02:45 AM »
Your work, as always, top drawer. I am a mechanical engineer with a organizational sickness. Deeply screwed on this. I have no need for portability in my shop. However when I see these build outs, which are well done, I always start thinking about weight, CG and other issues with the added mass of the "built in weight" on top of the tool weight.. Is it a consideration? Does it even matter, fuel costs and so on. For example did you consider light weight materials, such as honeycomb panels instead of plywood. Much like aircraft cabin construction. This is more of a curiosity question. Considering you seem to be thorough you planning, I was wondering if it a consideration, or like most engineers, I am simply over thinking this. :) 

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Re: Transit Van Fit Out - GunnyR
« Reply #32 on: May 13, 2021, 06:52 AM »
For example did you consider light weight materials, such as honeycomb panels instead of plywood. Much like aircraft cabin construction. This is more of a curiosity question. Considering you seem to be thorough you planning, I was wondering if it a consideration, or like most engineers, I am simply over thinking this. :)

Thank you for your kind words!

I did consider the CG and weight, but only in passing.  I quickly realized I was going to end up going down yet another rabbit hole.  I took the easy path and simply compared what I was doing to what I'd seen others do, and decided I was going to be ok.  I did choose a 3/4 ton chassis as I knew I was overloaded in my 1/2 ton pick up.  What I did not do was to get a vehicle weight at delivery.  Perhaps one day I'll stop and get a current weight and use the manufactures curb weight and then see where I'm at.  I will say that the van drives better today than it did when it was empty. 

I've been using the set up for 4 months now and can say that I am very pleased with the layout in general.  I keep adding to my list of things to upgrade and finalize:
  • Add a bank of drawers
  • finalize the top of the drivers side shelving
  • Improve my tie down system
  • Devise a method to transport trim, thinking something like the system that @Kevin C. has in his rig
  • Add cab lighting
  • etc, etc....
All in all, I used a very unscientific approach to the weight and weight distribution and seem to have gotten away with it at this point. [blink]
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Re: Transit Van Fit Out - GunnyR
« Reply #33 on: June 03, 2021, 02:20 AM »
I just bought almost an identical van and starting the process of racking it out. I like the charging station. Where did you get the inverter setup?


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Re: Transit Van Fit Out - GunnyR
« Reply #34 on: June 03, 2021, 07:01 AM »
I just bought almost an identical van and starting the process of racking it out. I like the charging station. Where did you get the inverter setup?


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Thank you!  My goal was to provide interior lighting and charging.  I don't have enough power to run power tools, I figure if that's necessary I can bring a generator.

This is the Inverter from Amazon.  Note that I also installed a separate house battery, isolator and fuse panel to distribute the house power.  There are lots of resources for Transit camper conversion and wiring schematics available.  Check out Pinterest and the Ford Transit USA Forum

Here is my list of electric supplies and materials, it's not totally complete but includes the major components.
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Re: Transit Van Fit Out - GunnyR
« Reply #35 on: October 16, 2021, 05:29 PM »
Drawers!

When I did the initial FitOut I knew that I wanted to include drawers in the middle bay of the curb side rack.  I wasn't sure exactly how they needed to be configured so I used Ridgid tool boxes to get started.  The Ridgid boxes are great but quickly getting tools and supplies was difficult.  Several tools were kept in the blow molded cases and some were stored behind other tools.  Now I can get to all those tools quickly and easily.

I settled on Paulk Style Drawers in two different sizes.  Several of the drawers have been fitted out for specific tools and others I have left open for the time being.

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Re: Transit Van Fit Out - GunnyR
« Reply #36 on: December 12, 2021, 08:13 PM »
Drawers!

When I did the initial FitOut I knew that I wanted to include drawers in the middle bay of the curb side rack.  I wasn't sure exactly how they needed to be configured so I used Ridgid tool boxes to get started.  The Ridgid boxes are great but quickly getting tools and supplies was difficult.  Several tools were kept in the blow molded cases and some were stored behind other tools.  Now I can get to all those tools quickly and easily.

I settled on Paulk Style Drawers in two different sizes.  Several of the drawers have been fitted out for specific tools and others I have left open for the time being.

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Can you tell me where you found your black buckle straps so your equipment doesn't come flying off the shelves?  i love that idea and i need those

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Re: Transit Van Fit Out - GunnyR
« Reply #37 on: December 12, 2021, 10:22 PM »

Can you tell me where you found your black buckle straps so your equipment doesn't come flying off the shelves?  i love that idea and i need those

I used 1 inch webing, buckles and Tri Glides from Amazon to make up what I needed.

Tri Glides:
https://www.amazon.com/YGDZ-100Pcs-Plastic-Triglides-Slides/dp/B074MQCDDJ

1 Inch Webbing:
https://www.amazon.com/Strapworks-Heavyweight-Polypropylene-Webbing-Strapping/dp/B01KTVG0KI

FasTex Buckles:
https://www.amazon.com/10-Adjustable-Release-Plastic-Buckles/dp/B00DCZRLZW

I found it best to cut the webbing with red hot utility knife blade held in a pair of vise grips.
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Re: Transit Van Fit Out - GunnyR
« Reply #38 on: December 13, 2021, 07:10 PM »
Rear Door Storage

The front left corner had become a catch-all for long objects that didn't fit any place else.  The space is mostly dead space but is primarily needed to store my ladder.  After battling (and losing) with retrieving my pry bar one too many times I finally moved much of the mess to the unused space on the rear doors.  I'm really afraid that all I've really accomplished is creating space to carry yet more 'stuff'! [embarassed]

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Re: Transit Van Fit Out - GunnyR
« Reply #39 on: December 14, 2021, 12:59 AM »
Do you care to go into anymore detail regarding your charging station?  I have been looking for something like what you put together for 6 months now and what you have is perfect.  I too would have 3-4 different charges but never thought out how to make it work.  So could you go into the specifics regarding the house battery, fuse, and power inverter.  I would really like to duplicate what you have. 

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Re: Transit Van Fit Out - GunnyR
« Reply #40 on: December 14, 2021, 01:03 AM »
Nevermind, i just saw one of your previous posts.  Is the house battery just for charging while the van is turned off?

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Re: Transit Van Fit Out - GunnyR
« Reply #41 on: December 14, 2021, 07:41 AM »
Nevermind, i just saw one of your previous posts.  Is the house battery just for charging while the van is turned off?

The house battery will provide power both when the van is running and when it's turned off.  There is an isolator between the positive terminals of the house and vehicle batteries that prevent the house battery from drawing power from the vehicle when the voltage of the vehicle battery is below 14v or so.  What this means is that power will only flow from the vehicle battery to the house battery when the vehicle is running and prevent the house battery from draining the vehicle battery.

My house battery is located under the driver's seat, along side the vehicle battery.  Note that if you have a Transit and don't need/want a house battery that Ford has provided a fuse protected 60 amp power connection point at the rear of the driver's seat.  I recommend you do a search on the Ford Transit USA Forum for more ideas about house power to your van.  You'll find references to solid grounding points that Ford has provided as well as recommendations on attachment points. 

I do not have any hardwired provisions to charge the house battery with shore or solar power at this point.  What I've found is that the house battery gets sufficiently charged for my needs during normal driving.  I've also mounted my chargers and power strip on a removeable board so that I can easily take the chargers into the job site.  I've also sometimes run an extension cord out to the vehicle to plug my charging station into.  My set up is not really strong enough to charge two of the DeWalt FlexVolt batteries at the same time using the inverter.  I've really not found that to be an issue.

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Re: Transit Van Fit Out - GunnyR
« Reply #42 on: February 12, 2022, 01:19 PM »
Does your m12 battery ever fall out of the charger while you are driving?  Just curious if a good bump will knock it out. 

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Re: Transit Van Fit Out - GunnyR
« Reply #43 on: February 12, 2022, 01:34 PM »
Does your m12 battery ever fall out of the charger while you are driving?  Just curious if a good bump will knock it out.

No, I've not had any problems with M12 batteries falling out.  The holders have held up well also.  I keep thinking I want to mount them at an angle to recoup some wall space but haven't yet gotten to it.
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Re: Transit Van Fit Out - GunnyR
« Reply #44 on: January 27, 2023, 09:36 PM »
I've made several updates to my 2020 Transit over the holidays.  I modified part of my racking to allow for the use of the Sys3 Rail System and a major upgrade to the electrical system.

Racking

Like many, I have all three generations of Systainers.  I now have enough to the Sys3 versions to make it worth updating my van shelving.  I chose to update the two bays closest to my parts bins to permit the installation of the Sy3 rails.  I had to increase the with of each of the two bays 9mm (18mm total)  to allow for the width of the rails.  Finding that 18mm was easy but executing it made it necessary to remove the entire drivers side shelving system.   The result was very much worth it!  The removal of the racking also allowed me to add shore power to my electrical system and run the wiring in the body cavity rather than leaving it exposed along the interior of the roof line.




I also added a long overdue storage platform for the space over my table saw.  I've been trying to put stuff on top of the saw since I first started storing the saw in the side door opening.  I used a bit of RV J-Channel and some plywood to make a removeable platform.  At one point I thought I'd make a box for the saw with a bin for my tool bag on top.  I think this is  a much more elegant, and flexible, solution!  I'm still playing around how to best secure the bag, for now it's just clipped to the grab handle.



Electrical

The upgrade to my house electric system was not so much functional as it is performance oriented.  There are two major areas of improvement. 

The first is I added shore power.  This was primarily to add on a hardwired 110v battery charger for the house battery.  The removal of the drivers side racking gave me easy access to add the shore power port and run the wiring inside the wall rather than surface mount the wiring along the interior roof line. 



The second area of improvement improved the performance and safety of the overall house power system.  I added a fused bus bar to separate the feeds to the inverter and general 12v circuits.  The bus bar also provided a way to easily connect the onboard 110v battery charger.  I also added a 12v DC to DC battery charger to more effectively charge the house battery when the engine is running.  In my first installation I used an isolator to provide charging to the house battery.  The issue with an isolator is that it feeds the house battery with whatever power it can.  The DC to DC Charger is a 3 stage charger that also isolates the house battery from the vehicle battery to prevent discharge of the vehicle battery.

I moved the power management and charging portion of the system to the area behind the drivers seat.  This has the advantage of keeping the equipment safe and provides me with easy access to 110v power in the cab.

The electric improvements would not have been possible without the superb videos from Nate at Explorist Live - DIY Campers




So, two years in to my Transit I can say that I am very happy with both the vehicle itself and the fit out.  I have a few more minor improvements in mind.  I'll likely add a few more drawers and some task lighting in the near future.



« Last Edit: January 27, 2023, 10:36 PM by gunnyr »
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« Reply #45 on: March 05, 2023, 02:46 PM »
Here is my Systainer Storage solution for my van the units are made just need to fit the van out when I have time ps that is the wheel arch unit keep your eyes peeled on instagram more than. On here



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Re: Transit Van Fit Out - GunnyR
« Reply #46 on: March 05, 2023, 03:25 PM »
@gunnyr  - the level of seasoned refinement displayed in the most recent version of your van upfit really shows others who are still stuck with Pick-ups and low roof height vans what is possible.

Thanks for sharing here for everytone's benefit!

Keep it up while keeping everyone posted.

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Re: Transit Van Fit Out - GunnyR
« Reply #47 on: March 11, 2023, 07:22 PM »
That's a fantastic looking, well equipped set up you have there. Great job.
Those high vans are so much better for this kind of thing.
Back when I first started in the cabinet shop (2004) we used ramp-door trailers. One big 24' model for hauling product and a couple of 16' that were equipped mostly for tools/supplies. They could also haul product, especially for smaller jobs, so a separate delivery wasn't necessary. It was never ideal though. Parking was always a problem, as well as getting installers who could actually handle a trailer.
Once the company stepped up to a 24' straight truck with a lift gate, the installers use regular vans and don't really have to deal with materials or products much anymore. They would all be envious of a system like that though.
What's in the TSO Systainer? since the GRS is hanging out on the wall.
Also, I see Match-fit clamps, but nothing obvious to use them with?
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Re: Transit Van Fit Out - GunnyR
« Reply #48 on: March 12, 2023, 01:48 PM »
That's a fantastic looking, well equipped set up you have there. Great job.

What's in the TSO Systainer? since the GRS is hanging out on the wall.
Also, I see Match-fit clamps, but nothing obvious to use them with?

Thank you!  In my case I am generally able to haul materials, deliver product and work out to the van.  Only occasionally do I need to rent a straight truck for deliveries.  In my Silverado it seemed that I was limited to hauling tools or materials but not both....

The TSO Container holds my GRS 16 along with some TSO parallel guide bits and pieces.   

As for the Matchfit clamps they are used primarily to clamp material using the slots in the shelving during transport.  I also have added a 2x4 to the top of my sawhorses that have Matchfit grooves on the top and sides along with a table saw sled with a grid of grooves that I used to hold work.  I'm always finding new used for the Matchfit clamps;   I've ground all of mine down so that they will fit into my Festool Guide Rails.
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Re: Transit Van Fit Out - GunnyR
« Reply #49 on: March 12, 2023, 04:16 PM »
Oh ok, that makes sense.
I have only begun to experiment with the Match-Fit clamps.
So far all I have done is add the grooves to by bench legs to aid in the holding where I have Domino slots too and made a small tapering jig. I used to just make single-use tapering jigs and throw them away after use. Even I can't keep them all.
I know there is more I can do with them, just haven't had time.
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Re: Transit Van Fit Out - GunnyR
« Reply #50 on: March 14, 2023, 08:45 PM »
This picture shows the slots in the shelving in use to secure sheet goods.  I like to use the screw type MatchFit clamps because they have a longer reach than my Festool Clamps.  I've secured as many as 10 sheets of plywood using combinations of clamps and straps.  The system also works very well for transporting doors!  Transporting sheet goods on edge makes it much easier to load and unload and leaves room for other cargo.

In this case I'm transporting some drywall for the much less fun part of trim carpentry.  I had the pleasure of ripping out a 4x8 section of tile back splash this morning, tomorrow I get to replace the drywall in preparation for the new backsplash.....

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