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Offline WarnerConstCo.

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The time has come
« on: October 09, 2015, 08:36 PM »
To take the next step.  I have leased a building and will be setting up a new shop.

I am going to stop doing remodels, site work and probably installs as well.

I will be focusing on my architectural millwork and machinery sales, the two big money makers. 

Best part, its just around the corner from my current shop and house.


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Re: The time has come
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2015, 08:59 PM »
Excellent news, Darcy! I hope that means you'll have more time with the family as well. Congrats on the next step.  [thumbs up]
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Re: The time has come
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2015, 09:29 PM »
Good for you Darcy, sell what the customers want at a fair price (or better) [wink]

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Re: The time has come
« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2015, 09:34 PM »
Good luck Darcy...  Look forward to the next adventure in classic machinery you bring back!

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Re: The time has come
« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2015, 09:56 PM »
Darcy

Good luck with the new shop!  Remember we like shop tours  [big grin]
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Re: The time has come
« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2015, 10:02 PM »
Probably take me a month at least to set it up. 

Not looking forward to that part. 

Building has a very large spray booth as well.

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Re: The time has come
« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2015, 11:23 PM »
I was picking up some Metabo gear yesterday and taking a further look at some of their specialist metalworking gear .. made me think of you and your machine refurbs at the time ...

Last weekend I decided to strip the flaking paint and tidy up the rust on a solid old but reliable 8" bench grinder ... (how hard could it be?) ... it gave me even greater respect for what you do with the big iron!

Good luck to you - hope we see the new setup coming together with some pics please [smile]

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Re: The time has come
« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2015, 11:54 PM »
Wow...you taking over the Cord Museum?

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Re: The time has come
« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2015, 12:35 AM »
Wow...you taking over the Cord Museum?

Can't wait to loose them as neighbors.

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Re: The time has come
« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2015, 09:03 AM »
Awesome news!! Can't wait for pictures Darcy!

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Re: The time has come
« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2015, 09:21 AM »
Good luck, Darcey.
Does this mean more and bigger machines? [wink]
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Re: The time has come
« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2015, 10:58 AM »
@WarnerConstCo.
Hey Darcy, this Felder Profit H200 will definitely help the through-put in your new shop...

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Re: The time has come
« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2015, 02:34 PM »
Good Luck Darcy. Look forward to hearing and seeing progress with the new shop and projects.
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Re: The time has come
« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2015, 03:51 PM »
Congratulations Sir, as always looking forward to the new shop and all the goodies you'll put there.  Best of everything on your new endeavor.  Bill

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Re: The time has come
« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2015, 09:04 PM »
I want to set up a moulder and a SLR.  My large lathe needs to get set up first, i have some large scale turnings to do.

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Re: The time has come
« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2015, 09:26 PM »
Congratulations! That's an awesome move.
Took me way too long to stop being a contractor. Glad when I finally did it and don't regret it one bit. Makes life so much easier.
Your family will likely get sick of seeing you around so much.  [big grin]
Good luck with the new shop.
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Re: The time has come
« Reply #16 on: October 11, 2015, 04:41 AM »
Congratulations! That's an awesome move.
Took me way too long to stop being a contractor. Glad when I finally did it and don't regret it one bit. Makes life so much easier.
Your family will likely get sick of seeing you around so much.  [big grin]
Good luck with the new shop.
markus

I am pretty sure his kids will find an interest in what he is doing.  That can be a big plus, not only for Darcy, but his kids as well.  I heartily approve.
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Re: The time has come
« Reply #17 on: October 11, 2015, 05:48 AM »
Good luck with your new shop, there is someone selling an ancient Festo power feeder nearby for €200, made me instantly think of you. I somehow want to buy it even though i don't need it lol.
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Re: The time has come
« Reply #18 on: October 11, 2015, 09:51 AM »
Congratulations! That's an awesome move.
Took me way too long to stop being a contractor. Glad when I finally did it and don't regret it one bit. Makes life so much easier.
Your family will likely get sick of seeing you around so much.  [big grin]
Good luck with the new shop.
markus

I am pretty sure his kids will find an interest in what he is doing.  That can be a big plus, not only for Darcy, but his kids as well.  I heartily approve.
Tinker

They already do spend a lot of time in my shop with me and going to auctions.

I get them ready for school and pick them up from their after school activities.

It was one of the reasons for starting a shop in my 1400 sqft garage. 

I am out of room an out of patience for on site remodeling work. 

Time for a change.

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Re: The time has come
« Reply #19 on: October 11, 2015, 12:45 PM »
What's an SLR?


I want to set up a moulder and a SLR.  My large lathe needs to get set up first, i have some large scale turnings to do.
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Re: The time has come
« Reply #20 on: October 11, 2015, 02:29 PM »
@Edward A Reno III
I think Darcy is referring to a straight line rip saw...however, he may be referring to a self loading rifle.  [eek]

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Re: The time has come
« Reply #21 on: October 11, 2015, 03:48 PM »
Yes a straight line rip saw, preferably a Diehl

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Re: The time has come
« Reply #22 on: October 12, 2015, 04:48 PM »
Change is good yet scarey at the same time. When I leave here and head home, it will be to retire. But I still need to work just to keep busy. Im sure on the next phase of your life like mine will be interesting and rewarding at the same time.

The last tie I was going to retire I ended up in the UK. So Im excited to see whats next.

Much like you pal. You'll enjoying the change and Im sure that this will lead into other things that you never even thought of.

Best of luck to ya mate.

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Re: The time has come
« Reply #23 on: October 13, 2015, 06:57 AM »
Congratulations! That's an awesome move.
Took me way too long to stop being a contractor. Glad when I finally did it and don't regret it one bit. Makes life so much easier.
Your family will likely get sick of seeing you around so much.  [big grin]
Good luck with the new shop.
markus

I am pretty sure his kids will find an interest in what he is doing.  That can be a big plus, not only for Darcy, but his kids as well.  I heartily approve.
Tinker

They already do spend a lot of time in my shop with me and going to auctions.

I get them ready for school and pick them up from their after school activities.

It was one of the reasons for starting a shop in my 1400 sqft garage. 

I am out of room an out of patience for on site remodeling work. 

Time for a change.

@ WarnerConstCo.

Darcey, i am sure you totally realize the value of letting your children play/work/observe or whatever they do within your work area.  i guess this post is more for any other parent who has kids who are interested in their parents work.  I know first hand and both of my kids were never chased off of any of my jobs. if the job was dangerous, i explained and showed them the dangers involved.  the explanations and demonstrations were very definitely back up with very strict discipline.

Up until I was 8 or 9 years old, even tho i was very interested, i was never allowed in my father's workshop, especially while he was working.  i was somewhat of an unruly, let's put that as VERY unrulykid. A small part of that may or may not have been because i could not be with my dad at anytime while he was in his shop. I had a lot of other issues that we need not go into on this site, but eventually, Mom and Dad decided enough was enough and my brother and i got shipped off to stay with my dad's cousins (henceforth I'll refer to as aunt and uncle. It's easier to explain)  we were supposed to stay there for a couple of weeks, but ended up staying 6 years.  It was the best thing that ever happened to me until I met my wife.  almost immediately, i was not only allowed to go into the barn at milking time, but I was allowed out in the fields with the men and even helping in anyway i could with any of the chores out in that part of the world.  that all was heaven to me.  My brother was not so excited; but the things i learned out in the fields, in the woods, in the barn, in the streams (he taught me how to fish), on the trail of deer and other wild game and so many other parts of his world have lasted me all the rest of my life.

Eventually, I even got to work with my dad in his shop and on paying projects, but as a self employed contractor.  that never would have happened had it not been for the responsibilities i learned as my uncle's "shadow".  shadow was actually my nickname by some who had noticed how close the two of us had become.  As a result of my own experiences with being allowed to follow my interest and to be allowed to actually pitch in and "help", I have never chased my own kids off of any job.  My son and i are sometimes partners in some projects.  Our daughter is somewhat involved with construction as she lines up and organizes various contractors to make additions or repairs on houses she is trying to sell.  She is one of the top realtors in her area with several prestigious awards.  My son is constantly upgrading his own excavating business.  When he brings a larger toy into his business, i now think of Darcey Warner and some of the monster machines he keeps showing us.  Had i not been sent off to my uncle's farm and had I continued to have been sent packing every time i got in the way, (and i did often get in the way, but when it did happen, I was not sent away, i was just presented with a new responsibility) i don't think i would ever have straightened myself out.

Our grandson has been working with his father,as well as with me, for as long as he showed any interest.  He was operating a humongeous LinkBelt excavator (needs WIDE LOAD sign warnings whenever transported on highways)by the time he was 9 or 10.  Kids don't get into trouble when they learn how to work, and work safely, but more importantly, they don't get into trouble when allowed access to the world of adult parents and learn about responsibilities first hand.

Do either of your children show an interest in getting their hands, or minds, into what you do?  do you show them how to do things or how to operate any of your toys?  I like to pull your leg sometimes about those monster machines you bring home and actually renovate.  i actually approve of what your do with those monsters. I hope you are somehow teaching your kids about those tools and machines, especially if they are the least bit interested.

Just the fact you let them into your shop is a great big plus to me on your account. i ask the question, but i am pretty sure i know the answers. :)
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Re: The time has come
« Reply #24 on: October 23, 2015, 10:35 PM »
My 10 year old helped make stools for her cousins, brother and sister last year.

Tomorrow they are all going with me to breakfast, the paint store and to hang six interior doors.

Picked up the keys today.

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Re: The time has come
« Reply #25 on: October 24, 2015, 12:39 AM »
As usual...a nice, from the heart post from @Tinker[big grin] everyone has their demons and we can only hope to expunge these demons from interaction with other people that are different than ourselves, or from wierdly enough, sometimes similar to ourselves. Both of these options have merit.

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Re: The time has come
« Reply #26 on: October 24, 2015, 04:23 AM »
My 10 year old helped make stools for her cousins, brother and sister last year.

Tomorrow they are all going with me to breakfast, the paint store and to hang six interior doors.

Picked up the keys today.

@WarnerConstCo.
Darcey, I have many stories about my kids going to work with me, mainly about my son. i often scheduled my meetings with customers to be on weekends.  Sometimes, sunday mornings were the only time both parents would be together for discussions.  I would let both daughter and son come along.  Usually, Sunday meetings were around 10 or 11 o'clock mornings.  The three of us would appear at the appointed time and house plans would be rolled out on the kitchen tableland I would begin discussing the part of the project i would be doing.  soon, my children would start asking questions.  My habit was always to never shush either of them, but to very carefully answer either of their questions with as much detail, or usually, more detail as I would discuss with the owners.

Very often, during such visits, the father would already have a gin fizz or Manhatten in his hand.  sometimes already starting to get high.  The wife would still be in pajamas and robe.  their own kids either still in bed or in another room watching TV.  My kids would be offered to go in to watch the TV with their kids.  My kids never accepted, even tho they had no TV at home.  Andrea was 1-1/2 years older the David, so she was already, by age 6 or 7 able to look at a set of plans and figure immediately what was going to be done and what my responsibilities were.  She would ask smarter questions than the customers.  David would, by time he was 5, be asking about how "we" were going to handle the digging, or where would "we" be piling materials and where would "we" be setting up staging.  Those things were far more acceptable for interest that any TV. 

The kids in the other room had not seen their dad for a whole week (this scenario did happen often) and he was already half bombed before noon.  I coached many kids in town during those years and hardly any of them even knew what their fathers did during the week.  Our kids not only knew what their father did, but they also knew, and helped both father and mother. both were allowed to go on any job no matter how intricate.  Even dangerous.  BUT THERE WERE RULES AND STRICT DISCIPLINE. ALWAYS.

As I said above, Darcy, I totally approve of you allowing your kids to be a part of your workday and allowing them to be in your shop.  Somehow, i know you are a very strict, but very understanding, father.  I am sure they will be a large part of your newest venture.  Soon, your 10 year old daughter will not only be helping to make presents, but will be showing her siblings how to make things in the shop as well.   [thumbs up] [thumbs up] [thumbs up]
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Re: The time has come
« Reply #27 on: December 02, 2015, 07:11 PM »
This is really progressing slow, due in most part to the owner not getting his junk cleaned out.

I did drag this home today.  There are at least one fitting inside each fitting, if not 3 or more.  I still had to put some in the back seat.  4" to 14" with a bunch of blast gates mixed in.

set me back 70 bucks...




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Re: The time has come
« Reply #28 on: December 04, 2015, 04:30 AM »
To the uninitiated, that must look like those fittings were just tossed into the truck. I can see there had to be a little bit of care involved.
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Re: The time has come
« Reply #29 on: December 04, 2015, 05:23 PM »
I needed new lighting as well.

This was yesterday's haul.


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Re: The time has come
« Reply #30 on: December 05, 2015, 10:11 PM »
Testing new light location and brightness.

Never mind ugly building.

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Re: The time has come
« Reply #31 on: December 06, 2015, 10:18 AM »
I can't wait til yyou get lighting enough for us to see all of your "NEW" toys.
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Re: The time has come
« Reply #32 on: December 06, 2015, 12:20 PM »
What ugly building
Just endless possibleties
Waiting for progress pictures

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Re: The time has come
« Reply #33 on: December 09, 2015, 05:50 PM »
New toy.

It was making race car parts, cutting aluminum by the looks of it.  It was in an industrial park with the likes of John Force Racing, Schumacher Racing, Lucas oil sports racing, I think someone said a few guys from nascar had shops there too (ok they did say that, but I had to ask twice what they were talking about and I had no clue who they were talking about.  I put another 320 miles on the 78 crew cab (drives nice at 72) today, probably last trip of the year for it.

Bottom wheel is steel, top is aluminum.

I am guessing it is a brake on the back of the motor, but secretly hoping it is a turbo.

Yates said it was built in 1942 and shipped to Pascagoula, MS. 















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Re: The time has come
« Reply #34 on: December 09, 2015, 06:01 PM »
Pascagoula, MS - good chance it was used during WWII in the shipbuilding industry. Tools with history, pretty cool.

Destined for your own use or resale?

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Re: The time has come
« Reply #35 on: December 10, 2015, 04:27 AM »
Glad to see you had your engineer with you.
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Re: The time has come
« Reply #36 on: December 13, 2015, 06:23 PM »
Well, this has come to an unexpected end. Half way moved in and the owner sends me an email that he has changed his mind and doesn't want to lease the building anymore.

He won't even give me a reason or respond. What a DB. 

Time to scramble.  I want to send him a bill for the time, money and wages he has cost me due to his screwing around. What a POS. 

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Re: The time has come
« Reply #37 on: December 13, 2015, 06:27 PM »
Well, this has come to an unexpected end. Half way moved in and the owner sends me an email that he has changed his mind and doesn't want to lease the building anymore.

He won't even give me a reason or respond. What a DB. 

Time to scramble.  I want to send him a bill for the time, money and wages he has cost me due to his screwing around. What a POS.

That sucks. But to play devil's advocate, you really have only yourself to blame for investing time and money into the venture without a legally binding lease in place!

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Re: The time has come
« Reply #38 on: December 13, 2015, 06:42 PM »
Well, this has come to an unexpected end. Half way moved in and the owner sends me an email that he has changed his mind and doesn't want to lease the building anymore.

He won't even give me a reason or respond. What a DB. 

Time to scramble.  I want to send him a bill for the time, money and wages he has cost me due to his screwing around. What a POS.

That sucks. But to play devil's advocate, you really have only yourself to blame for investing time and money into the venture without a legally binding lease in place!

There was, I just paid out 1500 bucks for insurance that he had to have too.

Too bad that agreement doesn't mean junk when the DB is a pos attorney.

Thanks though.
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Re: The time has come
« Reply #39 on: December 13, 2015, 07:47 PM »
Darcy,  sucks is the polite word.  Hope you recover some of the costs expended.

Peter

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Re: The time has come
« Reply #40 on: December 13, 2015, 08:00 PM »
Hope something better turns up soon


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Re: The time has come
« Reply #41 on: December 14, 2015, 12:45 AM »
Not to be picky, but pos attorney is redundant.

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Re: The time has come
« Reply #42 on: December 14, 2015, 02:30 AM »
Not to be picky, but pos attorney is redundant.

Well actually, POS and any definition of attorney or derivation of the word attorney is redundant. One in the same thing.

And that's too bad, time was when attorneys were held in a positive light, but their ambulance chasing activities have denigrated them to the depths of well...



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Re: The time has come
« Reply #43 on: December 14, 2015, 02:33 AM »
So Darcy,
How big is that band saw?

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Re: The time has come
« Reply #44 on: December 14, 2015, 02:58 AM »
Half way moved in and the owner sends me an email that he has changed his mind and doesn't want to lease the building anymore.
Darcy,
It sounds to me like he smells money, and is just jacking you around for more of the same (a renegotiating of the contract possibly). Maybe a few Benjamin Franklins in a white envelope will help clear up his thought process. It's not something I would do, but you have so much invested in this building already, it may be the best of all evils...and you'll have the last laugh.

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« Reply #45 on: December 14, 2015, 03:55 AM »
Darcy,
That is a bummer.  It is too bad that the days of a handshake are long gone. And now, it is getting to the point a contract can just be torn up!?
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Re: The time has come
« Reply #46 on: December 14, 2015, 07:28 AM »
Ya know Darcy that really does suck. Im betting he's got a offer from someone whose will to pay more money.

I thought you would of had the contract signed done and dusted as the Brits say before even thinking about moving in.

Did ya put any earnst money down as a deposit?

I don't want to be  a jail house lawyer.. but it sounds strange. It definitely sucks , but sounds strange.

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Re: The time has come
« Reply #47 on: December 14, 2015, 08:08 AM »
POS lawyer, eh?  Saddens me when the supposed professional is the one playing fast and loose with the law. 

My suggestion is to find another lawyer in town who already has a beef with the POS and see what they think about your lease.  Even so, winning winds up being losing in this sort of situation.  If you win and get to stay, when the lease is up, I'd expect it to not be renewed.  The best outcome I would expect would be the return of your rent money as well as what you've spent so far on upgrades and moving expenses as well as the legal expenses. 

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Re: The time has come
« Reply #48 on: December 14, 2015, 09:12 AM »
I hope that you have the right to remove lease hold improvements whereas you have already installed lighting, etc.  Bad situation for sure.

Peter

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Re: The time has come
« Reply #49 on: December 14, 2015, 02:59 PM »
I hope that you have the right to remove lease hold improvements whereas you have already installed lighting, etc.  Bad situation for sure.

Peter

That doesn't always work.  I found out the hard way many moons ago when I was in the mason biz. I thrived on small jobs, having usually only one helper.  Sometimes (actually:often) I would get a load of blocks delved to the job I was on.  It usually was not a full load, so if I had another job near by, i would have the blocks for that job delivered with the same load.  Before the blocks were unloaded by forks and boom, we used to have them delivered by flat bed dumper.  They just tipped the body up and slid the load off.  To keep the load from getting away and breaking all the blocks, there was a slig that held the sliding load together.  I just had the entire load dumped and in the evening, after work, I would load the blocks for the next job onto my own truck and haul to the planned for destination.

One afternoon, as i was driving away with that secondary load, I was stopped by the owner at the first job.  He did not want me hauling those blocks away from his job.  I argued that those were extra blocks that i had ordered for another job.  We got into a big argument and i ended up dumping the load.  I called a lawyer friend (actually, a local judge who I had known for many years/ since i was in high school) He told me that even tho I had given a contract price, any materials that were delivered and unloaded onto the property became the property of the owner. I ended up taking the loss; but from then on, I was very careful about who I chanced/trusted ordering extra blocks or any other materials for more than one job.
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Re: The time has come
« Reply #50 on: December 14, 2015, 03:40 PM »
I hope that you have the right to remove lease hold improvements whereas you have already installed lighting, etc.  Bad situation for sure.

Peter

That doesn't always work.  I found out the hard way many moons ago when I was in the mason biz. I thrived on small jobs, having usually only one helper.  Sometimes (actually:often) I would get a load of blocks delved to the job I was on.  It usually was not a full load, so if I had another job near by, i would have the blocks for that job delivered with the same load.  Before the blocks were unloaded by forks and boom, we used to have them delivered by flat bed dumper.  They just tipped the body up and slid the load off.  To keep the load from getting away and breaking all the blocks, there was a slig that held the sliding load together.  I just had the entire load dumped and in the evening, after work, I would load the blocks for the next job onto my own truck and haul to the planned for destination.

One afternoon, as i was driving away with that secondary load, I was stopped by the owner at the first job.  He did not want me hauling those blocks away from his job.  I argued that those were extra blocks that i had ordered for another job.  We got into a big argument and i ended up dumping the load.  I called a lawyer friend (actually, a local judge who I had known for many years/ since i was in high school) He told me that even tho I had given a contract price, any materials that were delivered and unloaded onto the property became the property of the owner. I ended up taking the loss; but from then on, I was very careful about who I chanced/trusted ordering extra blocks or any other materials for more than one job.
Tinker

I know a friend who was stung by the exact same scenario!

To add insult to injury, he made and fitted a beautiful kitchen for the client; For whatever reason, things went sour and the client flat out refused to pay him.

Being pretty miffed as you can imagine, he removed the kitchen he had fitted and took it back to his workshop.. by the time he got home from work he was met by two policewomen, who took him down the station where he was held for criminal damage!

Seeing as you have a friend in the legal business, I would definately take the advice he gives you before getting revenge  [censored]

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If there is a chance that some of the losses can be retrieved, it is better to just turn the whole thing over to a lawyer.  For me, it was fun to just sit back and follow proceedings as if i were unrelated to the problem.

My neighbor was living in a house with only about two feet of crawl space with only a dirt floor.  He wanted a walk in cellar and asked if I could do the excavation for him.  I had a small skid-stead with a small backhoe mounted.  I did the digging and he wanted to do the poured foundation.  I agreed to purchase the concrete (he was to pay for the material).  I suggested that he should call me before ordering the concrete so i could be sure his form work was ok.  He called and i took one look.  The whole thing would have collapsed with the first shot of concrete down the chute.  I went to work and reinforced the entire form work.  I told him I would fix the forms and pour the concrete as a good neighbor, but he owed me for the digging, grading and doing the block work to close in the opening and all materials involved.

When finished and the job closed in, he refused to pay me anything.   I was a tad upset and let him know.  My wife even more angry, so i sort of downplayed my own grievance and told her I would eventually get even with the guy.  But i was boiling inside.  a couple of nites later, i was awakened to my wife's yelling at me. I must have been dreaming as i had given her a hard kick in the butt. We both went back to sleep, but on my part, i was even more aggravated.  Two nites later, i was again awakened by my wife's rather loud complaint.  I wouldn't say she was screening, but she was using language in a way i was not used to hearing from her.  I must have been dreaming again, because I had the visual proof in front of my in the form of teeth marks in her shoulder. I had evidently bitten quite hard.  I decide right then to call a lawyer before I did more damage to my poor wife. (today, she laughs about it)

As soon as I got an appointment with the lawyer, I became relaxed.  In court, I was almost laughing as the neighbor told one lie after another.  I don't think the judge believed any of what he was being told by my neighbor.  We were sitting at a table in front of the judge and I was right between the two lawyers.  After an hour or so of debate, my lawyer tore into the neighbor with a series of rapid-fire questions.  The neighbor was becoming very flustered and trying to insist I was doing the job for nothing.  I don't recall the question; but it was something about (very sarcastically) did he expect me to do the whole job for nothing.

My neighbor, by then was beside himself with confusion and he blurted out "No body does anything for nothing any more."  His lawyer buried his head on the table with a long groan.  The judge just about jumped out of his chair.  My lawyer had a problem keeping a straight face.  The judge said the case was closed. 

There is a whole lot more to this story, but won't go further for now.  The post script is:
A few year later, I got a phone call from somebody I did not recognize.  He told me I sounded as if i did not know him. I agreed that was the case.  He went on that a few years back, I had taken a neighbor to court over an unpaid bill.  It seems that he was my neighbor's lawyer.  My heart sank.  Was he going to try to get hie money back or was he going to sue me for something else?  No.  the man wanted me to do a set of stone steps for him. Whew!!!

When i was looking over the job, I told him I was a little puzzled.  He had spent two hours trying to prove in court that I was a total idiot, a cheat and various other uncomplimentary observations.  His reply, "Obviously, we lawyers don't always believe what we are trying to prove."

I ended up doing the steps and a year or so later, I ended up taking care of his landscaping and snow plowing.  The other funny thing about the situation, i also ended up doing masonry and landscaping for my own lawyer at about the same time. 

So, after nearly destroying my poor wife's faith in me, i ended up having fun (yes, I really did have fun) in court. I got my money. I made friends with both lawyers, neither of whom i had ever known before my court case and ended up doing work with my closing down masonry biz as well as a few years work in my landscaping biz for both of them.  How much better could it be? ::) [wink]
Tinker

PS: neighbor moved out, never to be seen or heard of again. ;D
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Re: The time has come
« Reply #52 on: December 14, 2015, 06:19 PM »
Great story Tinker...I especially like the bite marks in the shoulder...you're lucky you're still alive.  [eek]

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« Reply #53 on: December 14, 2015, 07:54 PM »
Just another reason that I don't like 90% of the people I meet.

I just don't like people in general.

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« Reply #54 on: December 15, 2015, 03:23 AM »
Great story Tinker...I especially like the bite marks in the shoulder...you're lucky you're still alive.  [eek]

She has a good sense of humor. 

Altho she did get a book about large barbecuing and did take an interest in buying a large rotary spit for turning a roasted hog.  She wanted me to build a rather large fire pit. [scared]
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« Reply #55 on: December 15, 2015, 03:25 AM »
Just another reason that I don't like 90% of the people I meet.

I just don't like people in general.

Com'on Darcey.  I don't really believe that. 
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« Reply #56 on: December 15, 2015, 05:48 AM »
From the experiences I heard about from friends in trades, I would not do business with anyone in a legal profession. Too many stories of getting screwed.

I'm honestly surprised that more of them don't meet "untimely ends" [scratch chin]

I've never seen a course of study that professes to teach greed and selfishness, where do people learn it so well? [eek]

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« Reply #57 on: December 15, 2015, 07:30 AM »
Just another reason that I don't like 90% of the people I meet.

I just don't like people in general.

Com'on Darcey.  I don't really believe that.

It's more like 95%  I was trying to be nice.

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« Reply #58 on: December 15, 2015, 08:01 AM »
Just another reason that I don't like 90% of the people I meet.

I just don't like people in general.

Com'on Darcey.  I don't really believe that.

It's more like 95%  I was trying to be nice.

From the size of your toys, I know you think big
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« Reply #59 on: December 16, 2015, 11:44 PM »
Can't come up with anything.

If I can't find something close to home by the end of the year I will be refunding some customers and will be forced to liquidate my machinery by auction and will have to start doing something else.

May have to find someplace else to live as well, this has caused some some serious issues.

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« Reply #60 on: December 17, 2015, 05:03 AM »
Can't come up with anything.

If I can't find something close to home by the end of the year I will be refunding some customers and will be forced to liquidate my machinery by auction and will have to start doing something else.

May have to find someplace else to live as well, this has caused some some serious issues.

Darcy, I am truly sorry about all that.  Some of my thoughts are not postable in a forum like this.  [censored] 
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« Reply #61 on: December 23, 2015, 02:43 AM »
Well, this has come to an unexpected end. Half way moved in and the owner sends me an email that he has changed his mind and doesn't want to lease the building anymore.

He won't even give me a reason or respond. What a DB. 

Time to scramble.  I want to send him a bill for the time, money and wages he has cost me due to his screwing around. What a POS.

That sucks. But to play devil's advocate, you really have only yourself to blame for investing time and money into the venture without a legally binding lease in place!

There was, I just paid out 1500 bucks for insurance that he had to have too.

Too bad that agreement doesn't mean junk when the DB is a pos attorney.

Thanks though.

Oh Darcy that sucks in so many ways I can't imagine...

Ive known your a while at CT talk and here . One thing I know about you is you'll find a way to get it sorted, the is just a minor set for you.

You'll find a better BLDG Im sure and you'll be up and rolling in no time

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« Reply #62 on: December 23, 2015, 10:59 PM »
A space has been found. It's bigger, still close to home, more power.


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« Reply #63 on: December 23, 2015, 11:22 PM »
Justice prevails...and you've prevailed...there is a God...Happy Holidays


I don't even want to ask about what happened to the additional perks you added to the old building.

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« Reply #64 on: December 23, 2015, 11:25 PM »
Justice prevails...and you've prevailed...there is a God...Happy Holidays


I don't even want to ask about what happened to the additional perks you added to the old building.

I took everything down/out. Screw that asshat.

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« Reply #65 on: December 23, 2015, 11:30 PM »
I took everything down/out. Screw that asshat.

That's hilarious...that's what some of these bastenados need...a little bit of their own poison. Hope they choke on it and then some...

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« Reply #66 on: December 24, 2015, 12:41 AM »
This is the sort of stuff I want to hear about on Christmas Eve [wink]

Great News!! Enjoy your Christmas - I bet you sleep soundly tonight [smile]

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« Reply #67 on: December 24, 2015, 09:30 AM »
This whole thing still sucks. I will probably be going on at least 3 to 4 months without any real income by the time I get set up in another space.

Yes, the other guy is a real piece of work. He is also running for judge in my county. I think I am going to do a lot of promoting for his opponent  (his cousin, they have not talked in 25 years due to this guy suing his uncle/cousin's dad because he thought he should have been paid more).

New space is a section of one of the original car factories in town. It's 37 feet wide and 132 feet long. Lots of power, sprinklers, they are adding a restroom for me, a large garage door, and setting me up with the subpanels I will need.

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« Reply #68 on: December 24, 2015, 09:55 AM »

New space is a section of one of the original car factories in town. It's 37 feet wide and 132 feet long. Lots of power, sprinklers, they are adding a restroom for me, a large garage door, and setting me up with the subpanels I will need.

I'm surprised you'll step foot in the building. I know how much you love the auto industry in your town.

Congrats on the find.

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« Reply #69 on: December 24, 2015, 09:57 AM »

New space is a section of one of the original car factories in town. It's 37 feet wide and 132 feet long. Lots of power, sprinklers, they are adding a restroom for me, a large garage door, and setting me up with the subpanels I will need.

I'm surprised you'll step foot in the building. I know how much you love the auto industry in your town.

Congrats on the find.

Tom

It wasn't an Auburn, cord or dusenburg though.

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« Reply #70 on: December 24, 2015, 10:00 AM »
Excellent news Darcy. Merry Christmas to you and yours.

As for the income, it will sort out.

While you are unbelievably skilled at restoring these machines, I also think that you have remarkable skill in just finding them as well. I am sure that there are a lot of folks out there that would be more than willing to pay for that. So you may be able to concentrate on stuff that you can do a quick and profitable flip on while you gear up to do those full on restorations.

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« Reply #71 on: December 24, 2015, 10:08 AM »
Darcey, A great find and it looks like the owners are going to be great to get along with.  Me thinks they will find their new tenant very neat and interesting.

About my thoughts on the other guy, I won't put those into print anywhere[mad]
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« Reply #72 on: December 24, 2015, 11:06 AM »
Reflecting on the actions of your ex-landlord, it reminded me of the "Lawyer's Creed of Professionalism". It seems that while he may have read the "Preface", it's obvious he skipped over the "Guiding Principles" section.

I quote:
"Integrity is an absolute. My word is my bond. I will adhere to the highest standard of conduct at all times."

The really scary thing is this guy now wants to become a judge.  [eek]

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« Reply #73 on: December 24, 2015, 12:08 PM »
Congratulations Darcy and Merry Christmas.  Looking forward to the work in progress.

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« Reply #74 on: December 24, 2015, 02:04 PM »
Reflecting on the actions of your ex-landlord, it reminded me of the "Lawyer's Creed of Professionalism". It seems that while he may have read the "Preface", it's obvious he skipped over the "Guiding Principles" section.

I quote:
"Integrity is an absolute. My word is my bond. I will adhere to the highest standard of conduct at all times."

The really scary thing is this guy now wants to become a judge.  [eek]

While not always true, it is not uncommon for lawyers who can't make a living because of incompetence, lack of ethics, etc. to decide on becoming judges. I have dealt with lawyers were straight shooters and very competent and have been forced to deal with others who were scum. All professions have a mix of high and low quality individuals, but lawyers can have an inordinate impact on people's lives. That's why they are supposed to be a cut above. [huh]
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« Reply #75 on: December 24, 2015, 04:53 PM »
And that is probably why some of them pull deals like that one pulled on Darcey.  "...A cut above..."
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« Reply #76 on: December 24, 2015, 06:25 PM »
This guy is the guy that gives good attorney's a bad rap.

I am getting some banners from his competition for judge and parking my truck, with them on it, right in front of his office.

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« Reply #77 on: December 24, 2015, 06:56 PM »
Darcy,

Sorry to see that you ran into a bad egg.  Just as there are carpenter hacks there are also attorney or just general people hacks.

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« Reply #78 on: December 26, 2015, 12:28 PM »
A space has been found. It's bigger, still close to home, more power.

There ya go, toldja, now ya need to get Leo to help ya move  [cool]

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« Reply #79 on: May 13, 2016, 07:05 PM »
The first chips were made today in my new shop!! 

Having 480v and 240v 3 phase is an amazing thing.

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« Reply #80 on: May 13, 2016, 07:17 PM »
Beautiful Darcy. Very nice and congratulations.  [big grin]

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Congrats Darcy!  I know that it has been a lot of effort and stress. 

Here's to your success!

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« Reply #82 on: May 14, 2016, 06:29 AM »
Best of luck Darcy.
Are those cracks in the floor new?
They do look old, but what happens when you "new" machine's weight?
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« Reply #83 on: May 14, 2016, 06:53 AM »
Best of luck Darcy.
Are those cracks in the floor new?
They do look old, but what happens when you "new" machine's weight?
Tinker

@Tinker you've tricked me ...  [sad]

More often than not when I see you've posted I mentally "pour myself and whisky and relax in a comfy with my slippers on" and get ready for a good old story [embarassed] [wink]

What's this short post all about then? [eek]

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« Reply #84 on: May 14, 2016, 02:44 PM »
Good deal Darcy,

I knew it would all work out in the end. best of luck to ya my man.....

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« Reply #85 on: May 14, 2016, 07:22 PM »
Best of luck Darcy.
Are those cracks in the floor new?
They do look old, but what happens when you "new" machine's weight?
Tinker

@Tinker you've tricked me ...  [sad]

More often than not when I see you've posted I mentally "pour myself and whisky and relax in a comfy with my slippers on" and get ready for a good old story [embarassed] [wink]

What's this short post all about then? [eek]

@Kev  All those long stories were when i was only 38.  Now I'm 39, I have slowed down a tad.  ::)
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« Reply #86 on: May 14, 2016, 08:24 PM »

More often than not when I see you've posted I mentally "pour myself and whisky and relax in a comfy with my slippers on" and get ready for a good old story [embarassed] [wink]

What's this short post all about then? [eek]

@Kev  All those long stories were when i was only 38.  Now I'm 39, I have slowed down a tad.  ::)
@Tinker

Now that you say life is slower I would think that you have more opportunity to regale us with your words of wisdom.

BTW I really look forward to your entertaining posts.  [big grin]

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« Reply #87 on: May 15, 2016, 06:10 PM »
More machinery showed up today.

404 Mattison is heavy.

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« Reply #88 on: May 25, 2016, 01:38 PM »
Few videos I have been doing.

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« Reply #89 on: May 25, 2016, 06:06 PM »
 I can see the joy in your face while you're using the 404 Mattison and 16" jointer.....

I would have a big @$$  smile as well !     Great setup man !   Enjoy ! 

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« Reply #90 on: May 29, 2016, 03:49 PM »
That jointer is so sweet.  Sounds like you could take power nap in the time it takes the motor to wind down!
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« Reply #91 on: June 09, 2016, 01:35 PM »
Dang German machines.


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Nice. Nice.  [thumbs up]
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« Reply #93 on: June 10, 2016, 06:36 AM »
Happy planing.
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« Reply #94 on: June 10, 2016, 06:53 AM »
Kölle — sounds like "Kuh-l-luh". Wonderful machine, makes me quite envious!
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« Reply #95 on: June 10, 2016, 06:54 AM »
superb.

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« Reply #96 on: June 10, 2016, 08:54 AM »
The sheen on that oak after it went through that planner is incredible.
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« Reply #97 on: June 10, 2016, 09:50 AM »
The finish straight out of that planer is amazing.

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« Reply #98 on: June 10, 2016, 10:00 AM »
Very cool machine! And the result:  [eek] [eek] Amazing!

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« Reply #99 on: June 10, 2016, 01:42 PM »
Moving from Germany to the UK today.

Pretty nice jointer, it is a Wadkin. 


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« Reply #100 on: June 10, 2016, 03:19 PM »
Really nice!!  The jointer looks like 12" capacity, what about the planer?
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« Reply #101 on: June 10, 2016, 04:03 PM »
Planer is 25"x9"

Jointer is 16"