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Offline dmccririe

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Systainer cabinets build
« on: January 24, 2023, 09:02 PM »
I’ve done 8 rolling systainer cabinets.   I’m building some additional cabinets that will be built in without casters.  The instructions show a maximum of 1000mm height.  I would like to make them double that height and wonder if anyone else has and if so, what precautions should I take?  I suspect the height restrictions are on the basis of “tippiness” and not structure.   I still plan to put in backs and some will be outfitted with drawers and some with the sys3 rails.  Thanks in advance

Dale

Offline squall_line

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Re: Systainer cabinets build
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2023, 11:22 PM »
Tipping and overall usability, honestly.

To counteract the tipping, secure them to the wall.

By "usability", I mean the ability to get into the Systainer while it remains in the drawer or even lift it in and out of the drawer.  Heavier stuff on the bottom, lighter stuff on the top.  To counteract usability concerns, I would probably only put Sys-Orgs up high, as well as anything on the rails, depending on what is in them.

Offline Crazyraceguy

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Re: Systainer cabinets build
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2023, 06:28 PM »
At the size of the footprint required, a 2 meter tall Sysport would likely be pretty unstable, unless attached to a wall (or seriously counterweighted).
Aside from that, the higher ones would be rather difficult to access, assuming "proper use" (as in Systainers on pullouts) When you open the Systainer, you still have to reach inside it. 2 meters off of the floor, that might be a challenge.
Now if you are just "storing" them on rails, where you have to fully remove them to open them somewhere else, that would be different.

I have an end unit, that surrounds my CT26, then stores Systainers above it. That one is higher than the others. I have the socket set in the highest one, which works out well. (lots of small parts) I wouldn't want one of the power tools up that high though.

CSX
DF500 + assortment set
PS420 + Base kit
OF1010
OF1010F
OF1400
MFK700 (2)
TS55, FS1080, FS1400/ LR32, FS1900, FS 2424/ LR32, FS3000
CT26E + Workshop cleaning set, Bluetooth remote
CT15
RO90
RO125
ETS EC 125
RAS115
ETS 125 (2)
RTS 400
TS75
Shaper Origin/Workstation/Plate
MFT clamps set
Installers set
Centrotech organizer set
Socket/Ratchet set
Pliers set

Offline squall_line

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Re: Systainer cabinets build
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2023, 09:39 PM »
This is the set of three that I built for my garage, finally set into place (two doubles on the bottom, a triple on top).  The top of the cabinet is 79" (2006 mm) off the ground, the topmost row of drawers is 71.5" (1816 mm) off the ground.  The topmost row is currently reserved for infrequently used items and/or accessories.  The next row down from that are mostly "travel" tools or demolition tools that aren't used in the shop.  Both of those rows are above eye level and not really practical for frequent access.  The window will keep me from going that high anywhere else along that wall in the future.

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Offline Crazyraceguy

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Re: Systainer cabinets build
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2023, 06:25 PM »
That's a good looking set-up there @squall_line. I have to ask though, what are the yellow dots on the T-loc knobs about?

I assume the Lamello Systainer up top is for the fixings themselves? But it would bother my OCD to have them so far apart.
My DF500 and the assortment set, plus the other Systainer I keep the overflow in, are all in a vertical column at the far right in mine, with the CXS above.
CSX
DF500 + assortment set
PS420 + Base kit
OF1010
OF1010F
OF1400
MFK700 (2)
TS55, FS1080, FS1400/ LR32, FS1900, FS 2424/ LR32, FS3000
CT26E + Workshop cleaning set, Bluetooth remote
CT15
RO90
RO125
ETS EC 125
RAS115
ETS 125 (2)
RTS 400
TS75
Shaper Origin/Workstation/Plate
MFT clamps set
Installers set
Centrotech organizer set
Socket/Ratchet set
Pliers set

Offline squall_line

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Re: Systainer cabinets build
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2023, 08:12 PM »
Thanks, @Crazyraceguy !

You are correct, the fixings are in the top Systainer. The height of the drawer spacing isn't quite tall enough to put it above the Zeta itself, so it went up top.  In fact, once I started filling the stacks, I realized why people opt for 16mm spacing instead of 32 when building a Sys Port; it would definitely have given me better spacing to fit things in.  But since these were all pre-drilled closet boards, I didn't take the time to add any holes.

If it's any consolation, the OF-2200 accessory set is directly below the OF-2200, and the LR-32 SYS is directly below the OF-1010, so I know what you mean. :). It actually bothers my OCD a little bit that the CXS is in one of the two "router columns", but it fit like a glove, and I'm always using it, so it's in just about the perfect spot without wasting that space completely.

The yellow dots are all Recon purchases.  Apparently I never bothered to take them off, but it's also a reminder for me if I ever need service that those units are likely out of warranty already.  The DWC I got recently didn't have a yellow dot on it, so I don't know if they stopped doing that or if it just missed inspection.  I had to write to FUSA to get the correct bit holder sent to me for it, so perhaps the latter.

Offline Crazyraceguy

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Re: Systainer cabinets build
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2023, 08:40 PM »
@squall_line   Mine are "sort of" grouped together, but not perfectly. Practicality, workflow, time/order of purchase, and physical limitations all play into it.
The things at the top are most frequently used, and smallest. The routers, except for the MFK700s, run horizontally across the columns, at about knee height as do the TS55 and 75. It just seems like a comfortable way to access them for deeper Systainers. I have also added a few things that just kind of had to go where there was space. I had already worked out placement of the predecessors, plus I have those drawers in the middle full of other brand laminate trimmers.
The hand-tool sets are up high, where they are easy to work with the small parts, rather than just pulling it one thing, like a TS. Works for me, for now anyway.
I suppose I will re-arrange a lot of it when I have to move it home after retirement. I still haven't figured out how I'm going to fit into a small space after the luxury of what I have now?
I have virtually unlimited space, a 20' miter saw station, a 4' x 9' track saw cutting table, and a 4' x 10 1/2' assembly table. That's not happening in my garage-shop. The main space is only 12' x 22'.
There is auxiliary space, but it's through a doorway, not continuous. Fitment will be the first challenge, but a mental shift to what I make in it will happen too. I won't be building 25' long reception desks there.  [blink]
CSX
DF500 + assortment set
PS420 + Base kit
OF1010
OF1010F
OF1400
MFK700 (2)
TS55, FS1080, FS1400/ LR32, FS1900, FS 2424/ LR32, FS3000
CT26E + Workshop cleaning set, Bluetooth remote
CT15
RO90
RO125
ETS EC 125
RAS115
ETS 125 (2)
RTS 400
TS75
Shaper Origin/Workstation/Plate
MFT clamps set
Installers set
Centrotech organizer set
Socket/Ratchet set
Pliers set

Offline gunnyr

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Re: Systainer cabinets build
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2023, 07:53 AM »
I think that any frameless cabinet much taller than 1200mm needs a fixed shelf somewhere to keep the sides from bowing out. 
Semper Fi,
Jeff

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