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Offline Gunder

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systainer cabinet / Sysport optimum height
« on: July 20, 2022, 12:34 AM »
My systainer collection has grown to the point that have 6 stacks of them in the corner of the shop, is getting pretty inefficient.  So I am starting to plan out replacing all of my shop cabinets with ones built around systainers.

A while back, I thought I remember someone posting an excel sheet, that allowed you to calculate the optimum heights for various mixes of systainers (I have both the gen 2 and gen 3 series).  I can't seem to find that with the search function, so am hoping someone might have a link to it they could share. 

Also has anyone find a clever way to shim the difference in the widths so you can use a mix of sys rails and systainer drawers in the same cabinet?

If I recall correctly I also seem to remember someone suggested to drill the holes for the drawers / rails every 16mm in stead of the standard 32 for these.

Any insights / suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Thanks.
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Offline Crazyraceguy

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Re: systainer cabinet / Sysport optimum height
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2022, 08:05 PM »
If you have the newer SYS3 units in your collection, this will be an uphill battle.
The beauty of the T-loc was the incremental sizing, which was ruined with the addition of the SYS3. They do not fit the vertical parameters of the older model. (My number 1 dislike of the change)

Mine were built before the SYS3 and subsequently they don't mesh well. You can see the odd SYS3 at the bottom of the unit with 5 Systainers, near the middle of this pic.  The odd one contains an RO125, which I would have preferred to be one place higher in that stack, but it will not fit that way.  [mad]

I just realized how old that shot is, things have changed quite a bit since then. That column is still the same though.
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Offline Sbradley0911

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Re: systainer cabinet / Sysport optimum height
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2022, 12:47 PM »
I remember the height thing your talking about just don't remember off the top of my head.  I built my off that measurement.  If you look up the woodgrafter on YouTube he has a video on it.
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Offline mino

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Re: systainer cabinet / Sysport optimum height
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2022, 05:33 PM »
Depends if you want to use the top as a working surface or only to place things on.

If a working surface /recommend/, then it is easy. Just make the top the same height as your other work surfaces /or such you ca slip them under the table/.

If not, and you are OK the top being higher, then the highest is when you can open the "top" systainer and *still* easily access the contents. So about 200 mm higher than the "work surface".

E.g. me, being a high guy, I have the work surface at 930 /shared workspace/ and my highest position I accept for placing tools on is 1300 mm. Above that and it is too much *for me*.

I got to the 1300 by testing in placing the systainer in different heights and picking where it was still comfortable, but not more.

If you are 6', that may be only 1200 for you. Either way, align to -yourself-. Never align yourself to the furniture size-tuned for someone else.
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Offline Crazyraceguy

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Re: systainer cabinet / Sysport optimum height
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2022, 07:30 PM »
Agreed, totally with mino. My Systainer cabinets are quite high for most people, but they work great for me. There is a full depth countertop over them, but it's not really a working surface. I keep my drawings, and hand tools there, which is behind me as I stand at the assembly bench.
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PS420 + Base kit
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OF1010F
OF1400
MFK700 (2)
TS55, FS1080, FS1400/ LR32, FS1900, FS 2424/ LR32, FS3000
CT26E + Workshop cleaning set, Bluetooth remote
CT15
RO90
RO125
ETS EC 125
RAS115
ETS 125 (2)
RTS 400
TS75
Shaper Origin/Workstation/Plate
MFT clamps set
Installers set
Centrotech organizer set
Socket/Ratchet set
Pliers set

Offline dwillis

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Re: systainer cabinet / Sysport optimum height
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2022, 09:50 PM »
My Systainer storage height was predicated on the height of my outfeed table, less the height of casters and the thickness of the top and bottom panels. Using the directions included with the Systainer drawers (versions 1 and 2) and the rails for version 3 I drilled 32 mm spaced holes. Because of my design I used drawers on one side and rails on the other side. For drawer and rail placement I laid out the Systainers I wanted to store and then attached the drawers and rails. Fortunately there was little or no wasted space above the Systainers.
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