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Offline BMAC

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New Ride - Ram Promaster
« on: December 27, 2015, 08:46 PM »
I pulled the trigger on a 2016 Ram Promaster High roof 159" wheelbase a couple of weeks ago. My F-150 simply was not suitable for transporting materials and tools to job sites.

I had some time today and it "warmed" up to about -3C today so I decided to begin my upfit with the cargo area floor. After perusing what others have posted here and on a Promaster forum, I decided I'd use the 2'x2' T&G OSB panels that have a plastic membrane laminated to the bottom. I used the "barricade" brand available here for about $2.00/SF. They are rated at R-1.7 I think but they also act as a thermal break and gives some grip to walk on as the bare cargo floor was VERY slippery. I plan on adding a rubber tile floor on top of the OSB panels when I'm all done.

I removed the factory installed cargo floor tie down D-rings to allow for the panels to be installed on the cargo deck using PL400 construction adhesive. PL400 can be installed in temps as low as -17C. I've left a heater going in the vehicle to keep the temperature up a bit to allow for curing in case we get cold temps tonight.

When the fastener supply house reopens after the holidays (like the UK we have Boxing Day as a stat holiday) I'll buy longer bolts to refasten the tie down rings to the floor and the ring's washer's will also help hold down the new floor in position.

Next up will be insulating and panelling the walls/doors and ceiling so I can design/build the storage shelving system.

I'll post more pics as things progress.

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Re: New Ride - Ram Promaster
« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2015, 08:57 PM »
Here's a pic of the van from the outside. Also, the second photo is my F-150 with 966 lf of casing and base shoved through the back window [eek]
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Re: New Ride - Ram Promaster
« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2015, 10:16 PM »
What the heck is that grey pole in font of the truck?

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Re: New Ride - Ram Promaster
« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2015, 10:39 PM »
Just the street lamp pole at the end of my driveway :)
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Re: New Ride - Ram Promaster
« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2015, 01:25 AM »
Looks great!  I love my PM!  I'll have owned it two years in January. So much better than working out of a pickup. It's nice to have all of the tools accessible Individually as opposed to my former way of having to unload stacks to get to anything!  Enjoy!
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Re: New Ride - Ram Promaster
« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2015, 06:31 AM »
Please keep the pictures coming. I should be finalizing the purchase of a 2016 in the next week or so and look forward to your upfit pics. Love the idea of the osb panels for the floor.
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Re: New Ride - Ram Promaster
« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2015, 11:51 AM »
Very nice looking van   Best of luck with it.

Im due to replace some vehicles and I'm caught between the promaster and the sprinter.  Promaster mainly because of the price and all my other vehicles are RAM which would make servicing very easy but I'm curious to hear how they drive, handle the weight, mpg etc. 

I may actually rent one for a week and test it out 
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Re: New Ride - Ram Promaster
« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2015, 12:42 PM »
I went for the Ram instead of a Sprinter for the same reason. Years ago, I used to manage a large restoration company and we had a fleet of 165 vehicles. The few Sprinters we had were always in for repairs and there was major/costly repairs required. Yes, they were under warranty but it doesn't help when your outfitted vehicle is out of commission for days on end.

We've had some pretty cold and snowy weather here as of late and I'm impressed how well the Ram performs on the snow covered roads, and that's with the crappy factory all season tires! I can't recall the make of the tires at the moment, but the brand used certainly isn't one that I ever heard of before.

As to handling weight, I can't answer that question yet as I've not yet completed the build, nor placed much in the way  of tools/materials in it. Once I've done so I'll post my thoughts on it. BTW, mine is a 2500 or 3/4 ton as there were no 1 ton vehicles available and I didn't want to wait for a factory order (3/4 ton should be plenty carrying capacity for my needs).

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Re: New Ride - Ram Promaster
« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2015, 05:37 PM »
Which motor did you go with @BMAC? I'm torn between the promaster and the transit myself.

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Re: New Ride - Ram Promaster
« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2015, 05:49 PM »
I went with the gas engine. The Pentastar 3.6 litre as opposed to the diesel which was not readily available here without a factory order (I needed to pull the trigger somewhat quickly as there were very few vehicles to choose from. Mine was a vehicle my leasing guy found that was coming on a train to Alberta from Eastern Canada to a dealer here)

Besides, diesels are so much more expensive to service here in Canada (not sure if same situation elsewhere). For instance, a relative of mine has a Ford F-350 pick up and an oil change runs him $350+ as there are a lot of other filters that get replaced at the same time for the fuel, etc.

I'm just assuming that the Promaster Diesel engine would be more to service based on the example above, plus until recently diesel was more expensive than gasoline  per litre (I think due to taxation here).


Edit: forgot to answer the MPG. I've set mine to metric, I'm so far getting about 14.5 litres per 100 km, but I'm told by a mechanic that the computer runs the engine a bit rich for the first 8-10,000 kms and then readjusts itself to better fuel economy. Not sure if this is true or folklore. All I know is that I'm getting better mileage than my F-150 ecoboost did (probably 'cause I ran it harder than I should of...)
« Last Edit: December 29, 2015, 06:44 PM by BMAC »
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Re: New Ride - Ram Promaster
« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2015, 05:56 PM »
I went for the Ram instead of a Sprinter for the same reason. Years ago, I used to manage a large restoration company and we had a fleet of 165 vehicles. The few Sprinters we had were always in for repairs and there was major/costly repairs required. Yes, they were under warranty but it doesn't help when your outfitted vehicle is out of commission for days on end.

We've had some pretty cold and snowy weather here as of late and I'm impressed how well the Ram performs on the snow covered roads, and that's with the crappy factory all season tires! I can't recall the make of the tires at the moment, but the brand used certainly isn't one that I ever heard of before.

As to handling weight, I can't answer that question yet as I've not yet completed the build, nor placed much in the way  of tools/materials in it. Once I've done so I'll post my thoughts on it. BTW, mine is a 2500 or 3/4 ton as there were no 1 ton vehicles available and I didn't want to wait for a factory order (3/4 ton should be plenty carrying capacity for my needs).

Thanks

I originally looked at the 3500 high top but since i will not be using it anymore for towing  I will probably go with 2500 high top very similar to yours.

I agree regarding the sprinters.  I love the way they drive and handle but i am not happy with their loaner system when in service, turn around time and cost of maintenance once it is out of warranty   I have a good relationship with Ram so thats looking more like it 
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Re: New Ride - Ram Promaster
« Reply #11 on: December 29, 2015, 06:27 PM »
I'm looking for some input from others that have completed an upfit to a cargo van of any model.

Bear with me....my questions are at the bottom of the post.

I originally was thinking of insulating the larger open wall and ceiling panel areas with rigid insulation panels and the rib/strut voids with spray foam and then I'll cover these areas with plywood sheathing, but now I'm not sure about the insulation part due to the effort and cost and I'm not inclined to wanting to heat a huge area when I really don't need to.

I carry small amounts of paint for trim work as well as a collection of caulking, adhesives, etc that in the winter months I have to keep from freezing (froze a $50 can of paint a couple of winters ago)! It's not tons of stuff, maybe 2 or more Sys IV's but enough that I don't want to always have to bring these consumables inside each night and back in the van the next day. So, in the previous Ford F-150 Truck I installed a 110volt cab heater (little buddy brand at Canadian Tire) which worked great and I never lost anything even if it was -30C.

I'm rethinking the thought of insulating the entire Promaster cargo area and when I building out the shelves (pre finished 3/4" Baltic birch ply) for my systainers I'm thinking that I'll build a storage locker/hot box of sorts (think of an upright fridge made of ply) that will be fully insulated and sealed that will house a small ceramic 110volt heater and would get plugged in while in my driveway and I might also buy a small 12 volt heater to keep things warm when I'm not able to plug into the mains. Both would be placed on their own thermostats and I'll put in a second house battery segregated from the starter battery with a battery isolator.

So, my questions are as follows:

1. I'm still wanting to place plywood on the walls at least to protect from denting the outer body panels from potential loose objects. What plywood thickness have you used and why, do I go thicker than 1/4 or 3/8" to provide structural support/mount to the shelving gables? Or should I go thinner on the wall panelling and just secure the shelving gables directly to the steel ribs/struts?

2. Has anyone built a hot box/cabinet as described and what did you do for keeping it warm with both the 110v and 12v? As the cabinet is probably going to be maybe 6" wider and deeper than a systainer foot print and the shelves will be vented to allow the heat to rise to higher shelves I'm thinking that 1.5" iso foam insulation board would be more than ample? Any thoughts or advice on what to do or not to do with the proposed setup?

Thanks for your input
« Last Edit: December 29, 2015, 07:13 PM by BMAC »
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Re: New Ride - Ram Promaster
« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2015, 07:36 PM »
For the heated container, you might want to consider using the element from an animal watering bowl.  It should have a built-in thermostat that is set to something like 36 or 40 degrees Fahrenheit.  Since your goal is really to just keeping things from freezing, that should be warm enough.  A heat mat for starting seedlings might be a better choice if the temp needs to be higher.  If a 12V system is mandatory, then one of those cheap heated seat covers could have what you need, but I think it would be a pain to switch it over from the rig's system to a garage plug-in.  I'd rather carry the stuff inside each day than troubleshoot that.

My father owned the previous generation Sprinter (cab & chassis) and traded it in on a ProMaster 3500 a little over a year ago.  He preferred the stability control in the Sprinter, but to hear him tell it, no trip to the mechanic ever cost less than $3k.  He's fine with the PM's gas mileage, but it varies widely since he's driving over mountain passes loaded with a half-ton of plumbing fittings and another half-ton of who knows what.

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Re: New Ride - Ram Promaster
« Reply #13 on: December 29, 2015, 07:56 PM »
@WastedP

Good idea on the heater element for an animal watering bowl! I'll check that out at the farm co-op store and at Princess Auto (Canada's version of Harbor Freight).

Also I like the 12 volt heated blanket thought as well.

I may not even bother with the 12 volt option that would be only necessary when I'm not plugged in at home as the latent heat in the hot box would possibly be enough to keep things from freezing while at job sites. Some of my sites are condo towers downtown and several of them have large heated/enclosed loading bays I can use.

I'll monitor the temperatures experienced when I'm unplugged from the house. I bought the attached temperature monitor a few years ago for 2 additional deep freezers I have at home. I'll place one of the transmitters in the cargo area and the receiver in the cab and I can monitor the temperature from there. It even records the maximum and minimum temperatures reached and has an alarm that you can set if the temperature falls outside of the range set.

 
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Re: New Ride - Ram Promaster
« Reply #14 on: December 29, 2015, 08:08 PM »
When I had to store paints in my unheated shed I built a box out of the 2" foam from the big box stores, joined the seams with duct tape and used an 250 watt aquarium heater inserted into a 5 gallon bottled water bottle.  I could set the thermostat to keep the contents as toasty as I wanted.  It worked really well.  Once the mass of the contents got to temperature it was amazing how little the heater turned on.

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Re: New Ride - Ram Promaster
« Reply #15 on: December 29, 2015, 08:20 PM »
@Peter Halle

Might make sense to go with the 2" foam, more is better. Great idea for the aquarium heater and bottled water latent heat. Kind of like a battery bank for storing heat, I like it 8)

Best to assume that eBay would yield best pricing on that type of thing? Never bought one so....

Thanks for the input!
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Re: New Ride - Ram Promaster
« Reply #16 on: December 29, 2015, 09:51 PM »
Amazon, marine depot.com, drfostersmith.com would all have heaters.  Probably in the 20 to 30 dollar range.

When I did mine I sealed the top of the water bottle with the heater sticking part of the way out with duct tape.

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Re: New Ride - Ram Promaster
« Reply #17 on: December 29, 2015, 10:49 PM »
Thanks Peter!
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Re: New Ride - Ram Promaster
« Reply #18 on: January 01, 2016, 11:32 AM »
Bruce, what Promaster forums have you been reading regarding the shelving and upfitting?  The only decent forum I could find was Promasterforum.com.  Just trying to find good ideas for my upfit when the time comes.  Looking forward to your pics.
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Re: New Ride - Ram Promaster
« Reply #19 on: January 01, 2016, 01:45 PM »
@Bonetto

Bill, yes it has been the promasterforum.com that I've been checking out. Some informative information there to be sure. There are some work van upfit postings and pics, with some good ideas but the forum appears to be more centric to owners camperizing their rides, as opposed to work vans.

The disappointing revelation I learned is that unless you've ordered a factory alarm and remote start that there appears to be only maybe one or two aftermarket systems that will work on the Promaster. These systems (availability for me in Canada is in question) basically "fool" the system in thinking that there is a valid key in the vehicle. They take one of your spare key fobs and place it up under your dashboard after wrapping several wraps of wire around it and also a wrap of wire around the ignition module in your steering column.



For me, I'd have to give up my only spare key (yes, you should cut off the actual metal key potion). My Promaster came with only 2 keys as that is how a local dealership ordered it. My dealer said he always orders 4 key fobs that as a factory ordered option that is only an extra $150. I was told that NOW if I order one extra fob that they are $250 each and that they come from Europe (Fiat) and that they are $250 each!!!

Also, I've learned more about the electrical system from the forum that you should be aware of if you buy the Promaster. Even though my vehicle came factory configured with the option of the 12 volt voltage block (located at the passenger side B pillar) apparently if you want to add a cargo area 12 volt outlet that there is no live circuit at this block to add this feature as the feed to this block is controlled by the vehicle computer and the Stealership has to program the computer to activate this circuit!

Same is true if you didn't get the option of fog lights, they need to program the system for those to work as well! Kind of a crappy thing to do IMHO.
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Re: New Ride - Ram Promaster
« Reply #20 on: January 01, 2016, 01:48 PM »
http://www.ceoutlook.com/2015/03/17/new-remote-start-firsts-from-ads-voxx/


This is the link for one of the alarms that might work
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Re: New Ride - Ram Promaster
« Reply #21 on: January 01, 2016, 04:40 PM »
Nice van @BMAC and I have one. A high top mid wheelbase(L2H2) Citreon Relay. If your searching for fit out info on the www it's known in Europe as a Fiat Ducato, Citreon Relay and Peugeot Boxer. Same van different badge. We buy ply lining kits for our vans around £150 for laser cut ply panels. Can hardly buy the ply here for that. 6mm on panels, 9mm on the floor. Mine is the 4005 which has the heavy duty axle/ suspension package It came with factory alarm which includes a tracker
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Re: New Ride - Ram Promaster
« Reply #22 on: January 01, 2016, 06:25 PM »
wow, @jools that is a great price.

Here in Canada we'd be importing the panels from the States and the Penda liners and they're  $642 USD which would be $889.00 CAN at today's exchange rate.

Then I'd have to add shipping and a product like this if made in the US wouldn't be subject to duty, but I'd have to pay the Canadian 5% GST and larger purchases like this would likely come through a customs broker who'd add their broker fees to handle the importation, so likely the landed cost here would be about $1,000 or so.... [scared]  [eek] [crying]

It's just ridiculous sometimes buying anything from the states with all of this in mind.
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Re: New Ride - Ram Promaster
« Reply #23 on: January 01, 2016, 09:27 PM »
I had one of these until it got smashed up due to stupid driving on the part of 2 other cars...

One thing is make sure you have a spare key as they are a nightmare to get into if you have a bulkhead and get locked out. They are actually extremely secure when the deadbolt is activated! Don't ask how I know :(.

I found the ride great but hated the seating position which was why I didn't get another when I had to change. This might be different in the ram or the new model that's been out a couple months here.
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Re: New Ride - Ram Promaster
« Reply #24 on: January 01, 2016, 09:44 PM »
@jimbouk agreed I'm not going to give up my only spare key even for a remote start! Besides being told that the fobs come from Europe at a high cost, they also told me it can take several months to receive one!

The factory partition does suck as its right up against the back of the seat and you cannot slide the seat all the way back to the full travel position. Also, the partition won't allow any decent recline. I'm 6 foot tall and my knees almost hit the dash and my right knee is about 1 inch from touching the ignition key! I'm happy with the van but make sure that if you consider this van that you get an aftermarket partition instead as some models are inset another 6 or so inches rearward into the cargo space giving you and passengers more cab room.
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Re: New Ride - Ram Promaster
« Reply #25 on: January 02, 2016, 05:59 AM »
FYI Rubber horse stall liners make awesome van floor liners and are available at most ag supply stores.

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Re: New Ride - Ram Promaster
« Reply #26 on: January 16, 2016, 01:25 PM »
Back to your heated box.  We used 2" foam in a plywood box with a good old 75watt light bulb as the heat source.  It kept our well pump from freezing over winter at the cabin my parents had when I was a kid.  It was north central Minnesota so below 0 Fahrenheit was not unusual.  Literally pocket change for a heat source on AC power.

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Re: New Ride - Ram Promaster
« Reply #27 on: January 16, 2016, 01:55 PM »
@travisj

Thanks for the suggestion, if properly insulated I could see that it wouldn't take much of a heat source to keep the box warm.

This morning I've just started measuring the van walls in order to cut ply panels to sheath the walls. It's -15C here this morning so I'm bundled up trying to take accurate measurements so I can cut the panels in the shop. It's going slow though as I need to go inside and warm up every so often....brrrr...

I'll post pictures once I gain some traction on this project!
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Re: New Ride - Ram Promaster
« Reply #28 on: January 16, 2016, 03:08 PM »
When I was painting for a living, I used an old freigerator for storing paint over winter. Like Tavis I kept a light bulb inside and never had freezing problems.

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Re: New Ride - Ram Promaster
« Reply #29 on: January 16, 2016, 08:27 PM »
Braved the frigid weather here today and got one wall of the Promaster sheathed. It was -16C or -26C with the windchill here where I live so it was a bit of a slow go!

For the wall panels, I used exterior grade 1/2" plywood fastening them to the interior body ribs using self drilling tek screws which seemed to work well allowing me to bend the ply to conform to the curvature of the van sides.

Next up will be more measurements and the start of constructing the shelving system to hold my Festool systainers, DC and other tools and equipment.

For the shelving I picked up 3/4" Russian Baltic Birch that is 13 plies and laminated together with exterior grade adhesive, as there will be extreme temperature ranges (-40C to +30C), as well as differing moisture conditions and I want these shelves to last. They better, as my cost was about $80 per sheet!

Here's some pics. More to come as I brave the weather.
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