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GENERAL DISCUSSIONS => Workshops and Mobile Vehicle-Based Shops => Topic started by: gearhound on January 01, 2021, 03:47 PM

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Post by: gearhound on January 01, 2021, 03:47 PM
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Title: Re: Kicking off 2021 with a deep-clean & looking for new layout suggestions?
Post by: ChuckS on January 01, 2021, 04:01 PM
Your new layout is definitely in project mode. The previous layout wasn't good for making rip cuts with the SawStop given the mobile base is not the ICS version. I suppose the router/miter saw station is level with the table saw when the castors are released so it can be used as an outfeed table.
Title: Re: Kicking off 2021 with a deep-clean & looking for new layout suggestions?
Post by: gearhound on January 01, 2021, 04:11 PM
Your new layout is definitely in project mode. The previous layout wasn't good for making rip cuts with the SawStop given the mobile base is not the ICS version. I suppose the router/miter saw station is level with the table saw when the castors are released so it can be used as an outfeed table.
I just store the Sawstop up against the wall when not using for an extended time or hanging out in the garage...that's why I guess I call it 'chill mode'. I never use it in that position. My floors are slick enough that it easily slides back and forth without the upgraded ICS base.
Yes, the router table doubles as an outfeed table. It actually started as just an outfeed table and I quickly dropped in that incra setup I bought at an estate sale...still need to find a good way to incorporate the wonder fence and all the other gizmos that came with it.
Title: Re: Kicking off 2021 with a deep-clean & looking for new layout suggestions?
Post by: ChuckS on January 01, 2021, 04:37 PM
Consider adding a crossbar to the bench castors so you can engage/release the castors in 2 steps instead of 4.
Title: Re: Kicking off 2021 with a deep-clean & looking for new layout suggestions?
Post by: gearhound on January 01, 2021, 04:42 PM
that's a great idea, thanks @ChuckM!
Title: Re: Kicking off 2021 with a deep-clean & looking for new layout suggestions?
Post by: jobsworth on January 01, 2021, 06:15 PM
Wow Im I have been learning with my shop is laying out a functional shop is a marathon not a sprint. It will take time. What I came up with and decided on for mine is to make the shop around my miter saw station.
Since I primarily use Festools and I use the TS 75 mounted in my CMS for my table saw.

But since you have a nice table saw. Id make the table saw the focus of the shops lay out. Just about everything you will do will involve the table saw and miter saw.

Thats a true statement about if things are hard to get to you more then likely wont use them.

 So you might even consider selling some of those tools you havent used and have gotten by without. It will free up some space.

Work shops are fluid what layout that works great today may not be so great tomorrow.

So theres some compromise.
Title: Re: Kicking off 2021 with a deep-clean & looking for new layout suggestions?
Post by: Crazyraceguy on January 02, 2021, 02:17 PM
Wow Im I have been learning with my shop is laying out a functional shop is a marathon not a sprint. It will take time. What I came up with and decided on for mine is to make the shop around my miter saw station.
Work shops are fluid what layout that works great today may not be so great tomorrow.

So theres some compromise.

This is the absolute truth. How you use your shop really should be based upon the things you make/build in it. Guys who use a lot of sheetgoods work very differently that those who focus on small boxes or things like chairs and end tables.
Those who build frameless cabinets have little or no need for planers or jointers.

I work in a huge cabinet shop and within that I have more space than most people could dream of, but it comes with challenges too. I have a 4'x8' track saw cutting station with a router table built into it, just a few feet from my primary assembly table. I use it very frequently, despite having a 10 Dewalt SCMS just a few feet the other direction, 2 saw stops a Laguna sliding saw (horizontal panel saw), a huge vertical panel saw and even a computerized beam saw. The disadvantage of a ton of space is the distance between things. It is far easier to trim a bit off of something right there than to haul it around to another saw.
I cut the bulk of parts/panels in these other ways, but when it comes to "cut to fit" while adjusting for nominal measurements, the track saw wins every time.
The main challenge is not "enough space", it's about flow.
Title: Re: Kicking off 2021 with a deep-clean & looking for new layout suggestions?
Post by: jobsworth on January 02, 2021, 06:28 PM
@Crazyraceguy

You are 100% correct its about flow. No matter how much space you have or dont have, tools you have or dont have if your tools work stations etc are not set up to reflect the flow (based on the type of woodworking you do) or the way you process your work, material enters the shop here, placed , jointed and paned  here, ripped to width here  etc etc

@gearhound ,

Have you thought about your flow, how material enters the shop and the steps involved to turn it from lumber or ply into something nice that folks will admire for years and years?