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Offline ceddy

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Jointer...dust collection
« on: August 11, 2020, 09:21 AM »
Adding an 8 inch jointer to my home shop. Is a CT15/26/36 hooked to a dust deputy (9 gal) going to be enough? It's not like I'm going to be jointing all day. I plan on making one project a week at most (tables and the like). Or should I get a super dust deputy hooked and a 1.5 HP dust collector? The only other tool on this set up would be a DW735 and maybe a sawtop table in a few months. I have two CTs already for the rest of the tools in another room (Kapex, router, TS55, etc...). Cheers!

Offline ChuckS

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Re: Jointer...dust collection
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2020, 09:26 AM »
Invest in a HEPA dust collector; the CT/DD config. won't cut it for your SawStop (cabinet?), Dewalt thickness planer, jointer, etc. 1.5HP is minimum; 2 HP better.

My Dust Deputy setups (2) are only for the Kapex, drill press, bench top sander, and other portable tools (such as the Domino Joiner, sanders, etc.). I have a third large shop vac for the bandsaw and spindle sander.

P.S. If financially possible, aim for the SawStop PCS or ICS, unless you don't have the space or need the portability of the Jobsite. I know of at least two woodworkers who sold their SawStop contractor saws and upgraded to the PCS, after only a few years of their first purchases.   
« Last Edit: August 11, 2020, 09:37 AM by ChuckM »

Offline kevinculle

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Re: Jointer...dust collection
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2020, 09:39 AM »
Jointers generally require a lot of flow to keep the chips in suspension, particularly if it's a straight knife jointer.  Helical insert heads like Shelix are more forgiving on dust collection as the chips off the inserts are smaller.  In general jointers typically work best with at least a 4" duct to a 650CFM or larger dust collector.

Offline ceddy

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Re: Jointer...dust collection
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2020, 10:07 PM »
Yeah, reading more, seems like a proper set up will be required. Also, for the Sawstop, I agree that the contractor saw is not worth it. Thanks!

Offline CeeJay

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Re: Jointer...dust collection
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2020, 10:50 PM »
I’ve got a 2hp Jet cyclone collector hooked up to my 8” Powermatic jointer. It’s enough but I wouldn’t go with less.


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Offline Alanbach

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Re: Jointer...dust collection
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2020, 11:46 PM »
I would definitely lean much more towards the 1.5hp DC that you mentioned over a CT for your jointer and planer ... for sure!

Offline Cheese

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Re: Jointer...dust collection
« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2020, 10:35 AM »
I have a Jet DC 1100 collector that's used on only 4 dedicated tools, Delta jointer, Dewalt 735 planer, Bosch table saw and Delta band saw. I also have 4 conventional vacuums, but I wouldn't think of hooking any one to them to the above mentioned tools. They'd all fail miserably for meaningful dust collection. For certain tools you need the air volume that only a large dust collector can provide.

Offline deepcreek

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Re: Jointer...dust collection
« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2020, 11:51 AM »
You need a high volume, large capacity dust collector for jointers, planers, and table saws.  A CT or shop vac won't cut it.  I have filled my 30 gallon drum up in just a few passes on the planer.

If you're in a small shop, you can get something sized to be connected to one machine at a time rather than a multi-port overhead duct system.

Personally, I'm a big fan of Oneida and would suggest that you call them to get their recommendation.  They are very knowledgeable and helpful.

Keep the efficiency of the filter in mind.  I used a Jet 1100 Dust Dog canister filter for many years until I started having respiratory problems.  I think it filtered to 1 or 2 microns which sounds good but the smallest particles it doesn't catch are the ones that get stuck in your lungs.  If you can smell it, it's getting past the filter and into your body.  My doctor said no more woodworking because I kept getting particulate pneumonia.

I hated the cost but I bought a Oneida with a HEPA filter down to 0.1 micron.  Best investment I ever made.  No more smell, no more health issues, and my glasses are even clean at the end of the day.
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Offline grbmds

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Re: Jointer...dust collection
« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2020, 03:00 PM »
A CT probably won't be sufficient. Given an 8" jointer will most likely have a 4" collection port, reducing that to even the 50mm hose size most likely will result in an insufficient airflow to take care of the chips coming off the jointer. It may work for edge jointing, but face jointing, one of the most useful functions of an 8" jointer, will most likely produce to much waste for the CT to handle it. You need a dust collector which moves a sufficient amount of CFM through a 4" hose. No harm in trying, I guess, but I doubt it will work.
Randy

Offline Getmaverick

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Re: Jointer...dust collection
« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2020, 04:06 PM »
You will definitely need a proper dust collector. I would also change that 4" dust port to a 6". I run a 5hp Clear Vue. If i was a hobbyist, i would get the Laguna.

Offline grbmds

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Re: Jointer...dust collection
« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2020, 01:52 PM »
I'm sure everyone has their own experiences, but I just use the 4" port that my Jet is equipped with a 4" drop from the main line my collection system. That's sufficient and I have no issues whether I'm face or edge jointing. I suppose it would depend on how long the ducts are to get from the collector to the machine and a number of other factors. I just followed direction from Oneida with my cyclone and it  works fine with a 4" port/duct.
Randy

Offline CeeJay

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Re: Jointer...dust collection
« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2020, 05:57 PM »
I find 4” ducts is plenty for my jointer (8”) and thicknesser (15”).

I use a friends workshop sometimes, he has a 12” jointer and uses a 6” duct system, but he also often has two machines running at once where I only use one at a time.


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