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Offline Richard/RMW

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Hybrid carving/green wood bench/clamp/fixture ideas
« on: June 29, 2019, 01:02 PM »
I'm looking for ideas relative to methods to hold green wood while carving/shaping it. There is no room for a dedicated bench so whatever I do will need to be modular and attach to the 80/20 cart or worksurfaces much yapped about over here. Somehow I need to leverage the 1515 frame and/or 20/96mm MFT top (to be added soon):



I have this for chopping and heavy work:



I've been collecting random flotsam, driftwood from the beach and green wood out in the pine barrens. Today's project is a bow saw.

Would appreciate any ideas or insight anyone can provide.

Thanks.

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Offline tomp

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Re: Hybrid carving/green wood bench/clamp/fixture ideas
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2019, 04:11 PM »
Without knowing how large of a piece that you're going to be working on, these couple of ideas showed up on Pinterest the other day.

* Small Parts Vise.pdf (359.7 kB - downloaded 152 times.)

This has the advantage of using a modified clamp, but the clamp can be used for other things too.

300060-1

The advantage to this version is the tilt-feature, which may be important if you're doing carving.

As you're going to be working on the MFT, I would change both to include a 20 mm hole in the clamping area at each end - this would allow you to have the one end as a pivot, and clamp the other end anywhere on the table where needed.

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Re: Hybrid carving/green wood bench/clamp/fixture ideas
« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2019, 09:53 PM »
That small parts vise is interesting. I wonder how well an all aluminum version would work.

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Offline Richard/RMW

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Re: Hybrid carving/green wood bench/clamp/fixture ideas
« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2019, 11:33 PM »
For clarification what I'm looking for, in terms of functionality, is similar to a shaving pony. I've probably answered my own question, just found this while searching online:



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Re: Hybrid carving/green wood bench/clamp/fixture ideas
« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2019, 05:50 AM »
Here's another idea that would give you what you're looking for, and your 80/20 bench would allow for a solid attachment. Drill two holes through one of the jaws of a large hand screw and bolt it to the bench top extrusion, it would work in the same fashion as the shaving pony, but take up less storage space - a big plus in a small shop - when you're not using it. They make some pretty large hand screws, but it would be easy enough to buy the hardware and a couple of chunks of hard maple and make your own if you needed longer jaws or something custom. Plenty of articles out there on making your own, dead easy if you start out with the correct hardware.


Offline Richard/RMW

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Re: Hybrid carving/green wood bench/clamp/fixture ideas
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2019, 08:29 PM »
Turns out it was simpler than I tried to make it. This worked remarkably well.











I spend so much shop time worrying about things being straight, plumb, level, square & within a few thou I forgot the simple pleasure of visualizing something and removing the material that didn't fit the picture.

The Shinto rasp is awesome. About midway thru my phone started having trouble recognizing my fingerprints...  [big grin]

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Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: Hybrid carving/green wood bench/clamp/fixture ideas
« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2019, 01:44 PM »
The setup shown by Cheese, soft Bessey vise jaws on big machinist vise on mft facsimile, would be perfect for the tasks you show.

Offline Richard/RMW

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Re: Hybrid carving/green wood bench/clamp/fixture ideas
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2019, 04:26 PM »
@Michael Kellough - whereabouts did you see that?

RMW

The setup shown by Cheese, soft Bessey vise jaws on big machinist vise on mft facsimile, would be perfect for the tasks you show.
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Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: Hybrid carving/green wood bench/clamp/fixture ideas
« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2019, 04:45 PM »

Offline Richard/RMW

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Re: Hybrid carving/green wood bench/clamp/fixture ideas
« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2019, 09:24 PM »
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Thanks, now you got me wanting that vise...

Finished up the saw, had to get it out of my bloodstream it's been on the list for too long.



Got the entire long weekend for fiddling with projects. Hope everyone has a great 4th.

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Offline Alanbach

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Re: Hybrid carving/green wood bench/clamp/fixture ideas
« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2019, 10:56 PM »
Have you looked into Triton’s super jaws model SJA200? I don’t have one but the people that I see online that use them seem to love them. It’s not a small little thing that you can incorporate into your workbench but it is portable and folds up for easy storage.

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Re: Hybrid carving/green wood bench/clamp/fixture ideas
« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2019, 02:30 AM »
I have a couple of sets of the cam clamps very handy, and very nice work btw  [thumbs up]

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Re: Hybrid carving/green wood bench/clamp/fixture ideas
« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2019, 05:32 AM »
Very nice Richard, what wood is that? Almost looks like Yew from the raw stock I see laying in the back.

Years ago I saw a commercial saw like this in aluminum made to break down and pack that the center cross piece had a slot to store the blade in so the teeth were not exposed. Might have been in Cabela's but not sure.
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Re: Hybrid carving/green wood bench/clamp/fixture ideas
« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2019, 02:08 PM »
Thanks for the suggestions. I do have a Parrot-style vice that I need to get mounted, totally forgot until now that I could use that with soft jaws.  [doh] 

Also found these jaws when looking into soft jaws for the Parrot:



Probably the best solution, in conjunction with regular soft jaws & the duck clamps & dogs.

@Bob D. - I acquired the wood while banging around out in the Pine Barrens & thought it was cedar but it's tons harder than I expected.  Following a fast consultation with the Oracle I don't think Yew is native here, will have to research it better.

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Re: Hybrid carving/green wood bench/clamp/fixture ideas
« Reply #15 on: July 04, 2019, 03:20 PM »
OK on cedar, lots of that around South Jersey. I have a 3 thick x 22 x 74" thick slab
I plan to make a table top from.

I think the twist in the piece and the bark is what made me think it might be from an upright Yew.
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Offline Richard/RMW

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Re: Hybrid carving/green wood bench/clamp/fixture ideas
« Reply #16 on: July 05, 2019, 07:42 AM »
Now that's a chunk of cedar!

I have no idea what the wood is, as noted it's harder than I anticipated so my inclination is it's not cedar. Need to get a better look at the trees next time I'm out in the pines. I Googled "upright Yew" but the results didn't help, everything showed bushes, but it may very well be Yew.

RMW

OK on cedar, lots of that around South Jersey. I have a 3 thick x 22 x 74" thick slab
I plan to make a table top from.

I think the twist in the piece and the bark is what made me think it might be from an upright Yew.
As of 10/17 I am out of the Dog business and pursuing other distractions. Thanks for a fun ride!