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Offline rvieceli

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Dr Who tardis style shop needed
« on: June 21, 2021, 05:11 PM »
Basically I need a shop that looks like a 2 car garage on the outside but has 3000 to 4000 square feet in the inside. Any suggestions?

I want to add a 20 inch planer. I have figured out how to fit it into the shop. Now I just have to find the extra space needed to actually use it.  [crying]

A 15 inch planer while smaller is not “orders of magnitude” smaller and only gains a little bit more space.

Oh well

Ron

Offline rvieceli

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Re: Dr Who tardis style shop needed
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2021, 09:54 PM »
I think I may have a plan of attack. It involves replacing a 36 inch deep cabinet with an 18 or 24 inch deep one and reducing the aisle place in front of it. That will open up the aisle between the jointer and the table saw. allowing the the planer to roll out with enough space on the side for me to feed and retrieve.

Ron

Offline V Elliott

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Re: Dr Who tardis style shop needed
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2021, 01:17 PM »

"It's bigger on the inside..." I think we have all wished for that.

There is a useless closet in my shop... I frequently wish it was a portal into Woodcraft or even (heaven forbid) Home Depot...

No helpful advice but I hope you figure out how to get that 20" planer in there.

Offline jarbroen

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Re: Dr Who tardis style shop needed
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2021, 04:04 PM »
I'm surprised no one has said 'this thread is worthless without pics'. :)

If you posted pictures of your shop or a drawing, I bet there are some smart guys who'd have suggestions for you.
Personally, I have to visualize things.  And move stuff around, and again, and again.

If you haven't already purchased a 20" planer, have you thought of getting a combo unit?
The biggest size in the Euro combos is 16" - definitely not your 20", but you get flatten/thickness in that 16".
They are super handy for those who'd like to have all the toys and still save space.

Offline rvieceli

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Re: Dr Who tardis style shop needed
« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2021, 04:13 PM »
@jarbroen

Thanks but I already have a 9 foot long 16 inch Oliver jointer  [eek]

Ron

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Re: Dr Who tardis style shop needed
« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2021, 04:16 PM »
Can you set the planer up in line with doors / windows?  Open them to have extra in feed / out feed. Not great if it is raining or snowing but otherwise could be workable.

I have done this with my miter saw on jobsites quite often.

Seth

Offline Cheese

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Re: Dr Who tardis style shop needed
« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2021, 04:22 PM »

Thanks but I already have a 9 foot long 16 inch Oliver jointer  [eek]


Getting into the boat building business Ron?  [poke]

Offline Bob D.

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Re: Dr Who tardis style shop needed
« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2021, 04:50 PM »
I'm surprised no one has said 'this thread is worthless without pics'. :)

Like this?
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It's a table saw, do you know where your fingers are?

Offline rvieceli

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Re: Dr Who tardis style shop needed
« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2021, 05:04 PM »
Here’s the current situation in the shop. I actually have enough room to get the planer in the shop.  What I don’t have is room to operate around it, like getting by the thing to catch the board coming out.  [crying]

I’m using a blueprint cabinet that I had for storage at one end of my working area. If I swap that out for an 18 inch bottom chest that frees up 18 inches.
I think I can move the jointer about a foot closer to the other edge, so that gives me 30 inches. I can probably squeeze out another 6-8 inches somewhere.

Oh well

Ron

Offline Peter Parfitt

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Re: Dr Who tardis style shop needed
« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2021, 05:08 PM »
I got rid of my big table saw and then put things like the planer, bandsaw and Kapex sation on industrial locking castors. I added a mobile bench as well and now my 2 car garage is doing a great job.

Here is the cleaning lady finishing for the day !

332993-0

Peter

Offline Rob Z

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Re: Dr Who tardis style shop needed
« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2021, 05:17 PM »
Ron, I usually don't mention to my daughter  anything I see or read on my favorite websites, but I did read your title and  first line to her and she immediately smiled and nodded  [big grin]

I never did figure out what was going on when she was watching Dr Who, but I did know about the phone booth LOL.

My smallish shop could use some Dr Who help, as well.


Basically I need a shop that looks like a 2 car garage on the outside but has 3000 to 4000 square feet in the inside. Any suggestions?

Oh well

Ron

Offline rvieceli

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Re: Dr Who tardis style shop needed
« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2021, 05:33 PM »
@Cheese

No boats sorry. I was getting ready to pull the trigger on a 12 inch Oliver in Tulsa when I managed to come across the 16 with a 15hp rotary phase converter thrown in for only a bit more. Plus it was an hour closer.

Couldn’t pass it up.

But it does make my 20x20 shop a bit smaller.

Ron

Offline rvieceli

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Re: Dr Who tardis style shop needed
« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2021, 11:18 AM »
OH MY!!!!!!  [eek] [eek] [eek]

Look what followed me home yesterday!  [big grin] [big grin] [big grin]

Ron



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Re: Dr Who tardis style shop needed
« Reply #13 on: July 03, 2021, 11:53 AM »
OH MY!!!!!!  [eek] [eek] [eek]

Look what followed me home yesterday!  [big grin] [big grin] [big grin]


Nice Ron...I'm waiting for the uncrating ceremony... [popcorn]

Offline rvieceli

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Re: Dr Who tardis style shop needed
« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2021, 04:38 PM »
@Cheese

Sneak peek  [wink]



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Offline CeeJay

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Dr Who tardis style shop needed
« Reply #17 on: July 03, 2021, 06:47 PM »
Ron your shop is 20’ x 20’ I think you said so 400 sq. Mine is 14’ x 18’ so a fair bit smaller.

I’ve got a 54” table saw, 8” jointer, 15” planer, 14” bandsaw, 9’ mitre station, 2hp DC, pedestal drill and a 5’ x 2’ workbench in a workable configuration.

So with your bigger space I think you should be ok with the bigger machines.

The table saw (which is also the router table) is higher than the jointer so outfeed pieces can go over the jointer. I can rip max 6’ pieces across the table saw, longer pieces it’s the TS55. For cross cuts I can do 54” max as the planer is butted up hard against the TS. Anything more than about 36” I will use the mitre station which can go to 8’.

The jointer is on the back wall. With a sink and some systainer storage on the end walls the max length over the jointer is  7’.

The most constrained machine is the planer. If I rotate it diagonally on its castors the longest pieces I can get through it are 5’.

The bandsaw is by the entry door, so with the door open and the saw table higher than the systainer storage I can get 8’ rips through it.

Hope that helps.




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Offline rvieceli

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Re: Dr Who tardis style shop needed
« Reply #18 on: July 03, 2021, 07:51 PM »
Off the pallet


Offline rvieceli

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Re: Dr Who tardis style shop needed
« Reply #19 on: July 03, 2021, 07:57 PM »
First impressions. Seems to be a solid machine.

The pallet was adequate. The crate was made out of the world’s crappiest piece 1/4 inch ply. 2 of the sides were actually made out of about 3 strips scabbed together with horizontal strips on the back. BUT it did the job, made it the USA without being destroyed.

Have to get it together and wired up.

Ron

Offline rvieceli

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Re: Dr Who tardis style shop needed
« Reply #20 on: July 03, 2021, 08:05 PM »
@CeeJay nice looking shop

I’ll post up some pics of the shop soon

Ron

Offline Richard/RMW

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Re: Dr Who tardis style shop needed
« Reply #21 on: July 03, 2021, 08:06 PM »
Ron, I don't know if this helps/fits your situation however the #1 most space-efficient thing I did in my little shop was to line the walls with worksurfaces for the stationary bench machines (drill press, disk/belt sander, etc.), which lets me to roll the benches/floor machines underneath.



I prefer tall-ish worksurfaces (40") so all my carts and floor machines are at a 37" height. The stationary worksurface are 2" thick, giving me ~1" of clearance underneath. Everything is on casters & I rotate benches/machines as needed to fit the project.

RMW
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Offline rvieceli

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Re: Dr Who tardis style shop needed
« Reply #22 on: July 05, 2021, 03:09 PM »
It’s alive


Offline rvieceli

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Re: Dr Who tardis style shop needed
« Reply #23 on: July 05, 2021, 03:17 PM »
Valuable lesson learned:

Dust collection is significantly better if you open the correct blast gate.  [eek]

Ron

Offline jobsworth

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Re: Dr Who tardis style shop needed
« Reply #24 on: July 14, 2021, 11:20 PM »
Ron, are you able to use the driveway in front of your shop? When I had a 20x20 shop thats what I did. i put what I could on wheels, set up MFTs out side and also spray finished outside.

In the summer I would set up one of those 15x 15 canopys.The winters were bad there so i could do it pretty much year round.

I also bought my tools on versatility a tool that could be used to do many things. I got rid of my stationary tools and started using festools.  However since you have a very nice set up dont do what I did.

If there is money in your budget to bump the shop out or up that might help to.  Add a storage shed to store things you dont use that much find some room for exterior storage of wood. I bought exactly what I needed for each project as I didnt have the room to store wood.