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Offline rocky100370

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80/20 profiles 1.5" question
« on: May 21, 2021, 05:46 AM »
Hi

Does anyone have a favorite place to purchase these profiles for a low cost?

TIA

Offline dashboardpws

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Re: 80/20 profiles 1.5" question
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2021, 07:44 AM »
McMaster Carr is a good source. We get a lot of our material there.

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Re: 80/20 profiles 1.5" question
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2021, 08:29 AM »
They used to have a store front on eBay, that sold drop and off cuts.

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Re: 80/20 profiles 1.5" question
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2021, 09:00 AM »
I ordered from tnutz.com


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Offline madjalapeno

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Re: 80/20 profiles 1.5" question
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2021, 09:02 AM »
I just ordered a bunch of stuff from Misumi, all cut to length at a good price.
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Offline pixelated

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Re: 80/20 profiles 1.5" question
« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2021, 10:42 AM »
So far, I've bought all of my 8020 from McMaster. The only price comparisons I've done are between them and 8020.net and overall they are about the same, with some stuff less from one than the other, and vice-versa.
What I like about McMaster is that they are very fast with shipping with reasonable shipping cost. IMO, McMaster's website is easier to navigate than 8020 to find the profiles and components, but 8020 has more background information.

Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: 80/20 profiles 1.5" question
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2021, 11:00 AM »
McMaster for the rational online catalog and stocking. Zoro also has 8020 stuff, sometimes at lower cost.

Offline sae

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Re: 80/20 profiles 1.5" question
« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2021, 11:16 AM »
80/20's distributor model is terrible, it's really only worth using the big industrial suppliers as has been mentioned (McMaster/Grainger/Zoro).

I tried going direct, and also got quoted through one of their regional suppliers they sell your info to when you request a catalog, and they were going to charge me truck freight from 80/20 to their supplier, plus local delivery on the supplier's truck. Yeah no thanks.

Offline mattgam

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Re: 80/20 profiles 1.5" question
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2021, 11:18 AM »
I'll second tnutz I've bought a ton of extrusion from them.   Good prices on all the accessories too

Offline RobS888

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Re: 80/20 profiles 1.5" question
« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2021, 03:34 PM »
Is the 1.5 80/20 strong enough for an mft style table?

Offline serge0n

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Re: 80/20 profiles 1.5" question
« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2021, 04:47 PM »
I placed my order with 8020.net back in March. Still waiting for delivery. I will never use them again. Absolutely no indication on their website that they have been flooded with orders and have significant fulfillment issues.

I'll try tnutz or McMaster next time.

Offline rocky100370

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Re: 80/20 profiles 1.5" question
« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2021, 06:52 AM »
Thank you all for your input. I received a quote from 80/20.net and about fell off my chair. A very simple 4'x3' 20" deep frame for workbench was over $800. Ummmm no thanks.

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Re: 80/20 profiles 1.5" question
« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2021, 08:24 AM »
For anything other than an item they can just pull off the shelf (and even then they seem to have a pretty relaxed attitude about timing), 8020 is a problem. If you need anything cut to length, that's going to take forever and in many cases they're going to force you to buy it through a distributor, which adds a layer of opacity, cost, and time, too.

McMaster, as has already been mentioned, is fast and reliable. I always get anything I order in two days. The material is as good or better than that from 8020, and for the finished lengths we use the pricing works out well for us.

TNutz also has various very good qualities, particularly in terms of the small parts and in machining. For example, we use quite a few short lengths of t-slot that are threaded on both ends. The price is frankly spectacular compared to the struggle we've had getting the same thing through 8020. One thing you won't get, though, is a McMaster level of quality on the extrusion. This is really dependent on what you're using it for, but be aware that in some cases the low cost equals sections that aren't straight, or it sometimes seems they've mixed a metric size with an imperial (important in terms of what fasteners you use), and cleanliness can be a concern.

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Re: 80/20 profiles 1.5" question
« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2021, 10:35 AM »
I don't know...I never had an issue when ordering 80/20 from either the 80/20 company or from their store front on eBay. Everything arrived within 3-4 days, clean...straight....and well packaged.

This is definitely a non-starter for me "...but be aware that in some cases the low cost equals sections that aren't straight, or it sometimes seems they've mixed a metric size with an imperial (important in terms of what fasteners you use), and cleanliness can be a concern."

It seems to me that any cost savings with Tnutz is offset by receiving potential lengths of scrap, additional time spent reordering metric/imperial items and waiting a second time for their delivery, not to mention the clean up on aisle 5.  [smile]

For a 4' x 3' x 20" bench here's some 80/20 from Zoro. Add some fasteners, some connectors, some levelers and with free shipping you're probably into it for around $300.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/224308645654?epid=1422469167&_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item3439d64f16:g:144AAOSwILpf99EW:sc:ShippingMethodStandard!55104!US!-1&amdata=enc%3AAQAFAAACcBaobrjLl8XobRIiIML1V4Imu%252Fn%252BzU5L90Z278x5ickkgCVySCgrNFPU8Iu85TabMKREEs5lKf6lN23A2HeEZj7mNYB5flLlBubOl37%252B82cXvH9LD52KOLjC5F1ttwY8zIMHJRyOJjJCztQI9MUd9zezjHuwX%252Fo3rZzA2VfU930qomyaiJT%252B%252Bz1cbEtezEy0lVstKiF%252FymNQm99dM%252FPaw8Ol4RAZtldx7tM%252BLPEJ%252FcAzqbwICH7dOJweTjJafdeVb1A2cDhJNNXgW8uIzHywb7Q%252FR23jOKLqJ73VlwERybERF62D%252BN9FI0wpAN63PSw2Bc9ykfAOfylQvpgKDKkBarYMZmyFx9rkrFKr6qJXZk8L%252Btzo3MIp0lDZaP%252BjXYeGDv7bdR67F83s6dxLdNUSvZvNYZS3iHZpnTsD52Hf7i2Hn%252FX7prlB4gzQHmTBSSyn9%252FjQN1Sx9fY0sJrKPFsEdIeb6KRL9cB1zE9LaAuHViTIAzoo71DaRP1cEhG54uKgb%252BIwFXiSlD96ZZYIiUE1m9%252BiL03xDUW444G30kiv4%252BTvajQ7idKb36xXGuSCaLQ%252BAhhMrJuaomES9jdOC1kDOG9znaXa3te7VpxPojYvkTNo2MK3cHvWWIceUKm76dMzZ1Ax0SW76moqxLWehEyQ0K7mh2D4uz5sP%252F9c9vxso821fN5iKetCtnCCcSWmfD2YI9KzzaP7XC1uJNeMy8WswaD9kHH%252BTW9omz1aCn5Iik%252B0FgpsnDP4hxjhsdPc85DeOHS%252BVBwPYpLuObTzdPheKu3Fy%252F3eHe8UemKYHtKE3azrFwfAC8Xhkj3epKfPaCRZtw%253D%253D%7Ccksum%3A224308645654277c5ca594274ee6abf09c36f1bc946d%7Campid%3APL_CLK%7Cclp%3A2334524

Offline rocky100370

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Re: 80/20 profiles 1.5" question
« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2021, 05:53 AM »
Which series will accept the Festool clamp?  Thank you all for your help!

Offline hdv

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Re: 80/20 profiles 1.5" question
« Reply #15 on: May 23, 2021, 10:18 AM »
Festool/Bessey Quicklamps fit in the slots of imperial 15 and metric 40 8020 profiles.

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Re: 80/20 profiles 1.5" question
« Reply #16 on: May 23, 2021, 03:39 PM »
Here's a piece of 15 series.


Offline rocky100370

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Re: 80/20 profiles 1.5" question
« Reply #17 on: May 24, 2021, 05:48 AM »
Thanks for the pic Cheese. Can this be cut with the standard blade on my Kapex?

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Re: 80/20 profiles 1.5" question
« Reply #18 on: May 24, 2021, 07:26 AM »
You CAN use a typical carbide wood-cutting blade to cut aluminum if that's all you have, but I wouldn't expect to make a lot of cuts. Be certain to use a lubricant, even something as simple as 3 in 1. Anything is better than nothing. Aluminum isn't particularly hard but it IS "sticky" and will adhere to your blade to varying degrees, making a nice, clean result challenging without the right tool. Take your time and you can do it. If you're lucky to have a stationary disc sander you'll want to dress the ends with that afterwards.

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Re: 80/20 profiles 1.5" question
« Reply #19 on: May 24, 2021, 09:08 AM »
I use a Diablo aluminum blade in my miter saw (not a Kapex) for cutting the 8020 and other AL stuff. It does an excellent job. For lube, I've been using waxy stick tapping/cutting lube I ordered from McMaster which seems to work well and doesn't make a splattering mess.

The AL blade also makes nice cuts in wood if you get lazy about changing it out. [wink]

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Re: 80/20 profiles 1.5" question
« Reply #20 on: May 24, 2021, 10:14 AM »
Been there! ;D

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Re: 80/20 profiles 1.5" question
« Reply #21 on: May 24, 2021, 10:21 AM »
While I do not have a Kapex, I have cut literally miles of aluminum.  My current favorite blade for aluminum is Amana's Blucoat aluminum blade which I use for aluminum and plastics.

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Re: 80/20 profiles 1.5" question
« Reply #22 on: May 24, 2021, 10:31 AM »
I used a Trend CSB/AP30584 tungsten carbide tipped blade to cut the aluminum extrusion when I made the fence for my workbench, but I think any of the blades mentioned above will work just as well.  The 84-tooth blade has a 30mm arbor hole and fits my Minimax SC2C table saw and Dewalt DWS780 miter saw.  The extrusion was very easy to cut on both saws.

I didn't use any lubrication, but I did make shallow cuts and inspected the teeth for signs of buildup.  I didn't see any buildup, and was happy with the blade.  I also turned off my dust collection to avoid the potential for hot aluminum chips making their way to my dust bin.  The aluminum cooled down quickly, but I didn't want to take any chances.

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Re: 80/20 profiles 1.5" question
« Reply #23 on: May 24, 2021, 11:50 AM »
I have the Festool aluminum blade for the Kapex but any of the blades designed to cut aluminum would be a great alternative rather than using a standard wood blade. Amana, Trend, Freud, CMT, Lenox, Morse, Bosch, Tenryu or Evolution are all good choices.

I also use a Milwaukee saw blade wax lubricant because it's less messy.

Offline rocky100370

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Re: 80/20 profiles 1.5" question
« Reply #24 on: May 25, 2021, 06:22 AM »
Thank you all for your input. Love this forum and the great members!

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Re: 80/20 profiles 1.5" question
« Reply #25 on: May 25, 2021, 09:35 AM »
Just another note, the geometry of the aluminum blades is identical to plastic cutting blades so is useful for both.  If I am cutting thick aluminum of any quantity I run my blades through a piece of scrap brass to clean any aluminum galling that might be on the blades.  Do the same with my bandsaw.

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Re: 80/20 profiles 1.5" question
« Reply #26 on: May 25, 2021, 11:57 AM »
If I am cutting thick aluminum of any quantity I run my blades through a piece of scrap brass to clean any aluminum galling that might be on the blades.  Do the same with my bandsaw.

Wow...that's a new one on me.  [smile]  How thick is the brass scrap and how much lineal length does it take?

Kind of reminds me of running the diamond blade on the Stihl cement saw through some asphalt scraps to refresh the diamonds.

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Re: 80/20 profiles 1.5" question
« Reply #27 on: May 25, 2021, 03:25 PM »
I just use whatever piece of old hardware that I have... advantage of being a locksmith is having lots of old brass

Offline dwillis

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Re: 80/20 profiles 1.5" question
« Reply #28 on: June 01, 2021, 07:43 PM »
I've been purchasing 80/20 from my local Graingers (in Portland, OR). No shipping charges and they are now carrying a selection of 80/20 in stock, including a variety of fasteners and plates. The store manager told me it's become a popular item because it's readily available.

As for cutting 80/20 profiles I am fortunate to have several Festool Kapex aluminum blades (No. 495385, apparently they have been discontinued). As long as the work is securely clamped down and the cut is made slowly the results are excellent. Only downside is the aluminum chips flying everywhere.
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Re: 80/20 profiles 1.5" question
« Reply #29 on: June 01, 2021, 09:52 PM »
I just use a negative rake blade, nothing special and no lubricants. Most of the secret in a blade for aluminium is the negative rake and nothing else. It lives on the saw so cuts all my wood as well.