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I thought I'd share "Part One" of the results of some recent sleuthing I did into Woodpeckers Auto Line Drill Guide and the feasibility of using it as a portable tapping station (among other perhaps less obvious uses).

I've been contemplating the purchase of this drill guide since back when it was still under development. But given my hesitation to own the "Model A" of anything, I've held off, preferring to observe the roll-out while keeping a watchful eye for unsuspected problems or unforeseen limitations. I've also been waiting to see what would materialize in terms of any third party add-ons. More on this last point in a moment.

Anyways, given Wooodpeckers' promotional pricing on this tool for the month of January (2022), my interest in purchasing one has been rekindled. Never one to not exhaustively research a tool before purchasing it and also because I'm interested particularly in tools that serve multiple purposes (combination tools if you will) I set about considering all the different ways I might be able to use it.

One perhaps less obvious potential use is that of the drill guide as a mobile drilling and tapping station. What put me onto this idea is the technique of tapping holes using a drill press. In wondering if a similar technique could be employed with the Auto Line, I happened to stumble upon the following tool which immediately caught my eye given its potential for use in lieu of a powered drill/driver while tapping:



[Source: https://www.nejisaurus.engineer.jp/product-page/dz-50-%E3%83%A9%E3%83%81%E3%82%A7%E3%83%83%E3%83%88%E3%83%89%E3%83%A9%E3%82%A4%E3%83%B4]

The other thing which sent me down this road was this recent thread and, in particular, this post, the latter of which provides an elegant solution to a common problem. I've experienced that problem which is manifested by hardened taps slipping in a three jaw Jacobs chuck, but hadn't been aware of the simple work around which, in the case of the Auto Line, will only require the added addition of two socket adapters; a 1/4" and a 3/8".

So, with that problem sorted, all I needed to figure out was a) is there enough clearance from the posts/columns that the chuck carriage rides up and down on for the handle (un-modified) of the hex driver to rotate freely and b) is it possible to mount the return spring on top of (rather than beneath) the carriage. The idea here is to develop a little spring tension in the direction opposite normal to hopefully provide something akin to the light force that a drill press handle produces (again, when using a drill press to manually tap). I've only got two hands and so if the spring (or another shorter spring if the stock spring is too long) cold provide some downward force (IOW towards the aperture in the base of the drill guide) then that is one less thing I'll have to worry about. If the work is clamped to the drill guide (or vice versa) then the tapping operation could potentially only require one hand to execute. This is appealing given that one of the chief complaints of the Auto Line is its tippiness with a drill mounted on it. Obviously, this wouldn't be an issue were I turning the chuck shaft by hand (via the hex driver) but anything that simplifies an operation like drilling and tapping seems worthwhile.

When I contacted the manufacturer of the hex driver (keep in mind they're a Japanese company located in Japan), I kid you not, I received a reply within minutes. Now that's customer service! Turns out the t-handle is 100mm long making half of its length, you guessed it, 50mm. So, now I just needed to find out if there happens to be enough clearance between the tips of the t-handle (with the quick release head of the hex driver snapped onto the hex head of the chuck shank) and the posts/columns that the chuck carrier rides up and down on (keeping in mind the additional thickness that the return spring would produce if fitted to one of the posts) to allow for its use, unmodified. Note - I'd already figured that, if need be, I can grind off a bit of the end of each handle and in doing so probably won't lose much in the way of functionality.

And here's where I encountered a problem. First, multiple emails to multiple Woodpeckers email addresses and multiple comments on their facebook page all, after more than a week, went unanswered. Second, we all know that Woodpeckers has been trolled relentlessly by counterfeiters. Sadly, this has resulted in the staff (or at least some of the staff) being highly paranoid when it comes to their willingness to answer basic technical questions concerning the design of their tools. In the case of the Auto Line, however, that ship sailed a while ago if the plethora of counterfeit versions flooding the marketplace is any indication. Which is what makes the stonewalling response I was ultimately provided with (indirectly from the tool's developer after I opted to call instead of wait for a written response) so annoying. Apparently, the distance from the center of the shank to the vertical face of the posts/columns is a state secret, and is still a state secret even after a legit potential customer provides the background for why they need to know that dimension and even after they also make it clear that they need to know it in advance of clicking the "Buy" button.

Further, since I also plan to fit various jigs to the drill guide - but because Woodpeckers didn't heed my and others' request to include in their design counter-sunk mounting holes in the base (for mounting jigs to, etc., a feature every other drill guide on the market has) I also needed to know the threading of the holes in the base (or are they holes with threaded inserts? I can't tell from the videos and photos of this tool that are currently available online) that the guide rods thread into. Well, this basic information is also apparently another state secret.

So, not to be outdone I continued pursuing answers until I was finally able produce a response. Or at least that's way I hope this works out in the end. Stay tuned for "Part 2".

Oh, and returning briefly to the concept of third party add-ons (which there aren't any of yet any at least as the date of this writing): I've heard a rumor that there might be something in the works by one of the eBay sellers who produces 3D-printed accessories for Festool and other-branded tools to develop a carriage that the Auto Line will mount to that will enable it to ride along and register off of a standard guide rail (including maybe the registration holes in an LR-32 hole'y rail). This simple interface is something that some of us requested from Woodpeckers back in the development stage but is another feature they opted to overlook in favor of their proprietary system of outrigger and threaded guide rod extensions. The idea of being able to make use of a guide rail (and, potentially, multiple shop-built stops or store bought stops - see some of those same aforementioned eBay sellers for examples of the latter) would allow for setting a repeatable x-axis. Plus, at least for those of us who own one or two guide rail parallel guides, the additional use of a single parallel guide (to set the y-axis) would open up all kinds of additional potential for the Auto Line. One would only be limited by the number and/or length of guide rail(s) they own.

Personally, I'm in favor of a guide rail carriage which makes use of the t-slot on the top face of a guide rail since this would provide anti-tip services as well as perhaps also allow for the drill guide to be used in the horizontal orientation with the guide rail laying flat (horizontal with the ground) on a work piece. It would be handy to be able to let go of the drill guide in this orientation and simply slide it along, captured as it would be by the t-slot. Fingers crossed!   
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Offline dicktill

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Re: Woodpeckers Auto Line Drill Guide - As a Portable Tapping Station?
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2022, 08:23 PM »
Thank you!!!!!

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Re: Woodpeckers Auto Line Drill Guide - As a Portable Tapping Station?
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2022, 08:27 PM »
"Part 1A"

It has also occurred to me that purchasing a spare set of posts/columns would allow one to greatly increase the capacity (the throat if you will) of the Auto Line. All that would be needed is two short lengths of threaded rod (perhaps cannibalized from an appropriately threaded bolt or two) and your favorite bolt adhesive (epoxy or red thread-lock come to mind). By permanently installing the threaded rod in the ends of the spare posts (the end intended for mounting the knurled caps) all one would need to do to double the stock capacity of the drill guide is remove the knurled caps, end-for-end the spare posts and screw them onto the top of the stock posts.

I'm still waiting to learn if my presumption that both ends of the posts are threaded identically (probably another state secret) is true. But, if they are, then the knurled caps could be screwed in place as intended on the top of the spare posts. But, if this is the case, then the spare posts can be installed without needing to end-for-end them by simply installing the threaded rods in the other ends (the end intended to mount to the base of the drill guide). Frustratingly, the response I received from the developer on this topic was "No." Apparently the developer overlooked the fact that even if the ends of the posts are not threaded alike, my first solution can still be implemented making my idea of adding a second spare set of posts to the stock posts eminently doable.

The only serious consideration (beyond the cost of a spare set of posts) is that increasing the length of the posts increases the lever, thus imparting an increased force on the base, a force likely not considered during testing. But I figure that as long as one is careful they could make use of this idea without causing permanent damage to their drill guide. I see the need for an increased throat capacity maybe coming in handy in conjunction with using the drill guide as a tapping station, particularly when the drill guide is taken to a work piece and/or if someone comes across the need to use a really long drill bit (or drill bit extension) like when drilling through a floor near other services, etc.

Now, clearly, this also has limitations. For instance, one wouldn't want to chuck up a two inch diameter, three foot long auger bit (this would twist the drill guide to pieces). But, for drilling a small diameter hole for a single CAT6 cable or a run of Romex I could see this possibly saving the day.
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Re: Woodpeckers Auto Line Drill Guide - As a Portable Tapping Station?
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2022, 10:26 PM »
 [popcorn]


Offline squall_line

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Re: Woodpeckers Auto Line Drill Guide - As a Portable Tapping Station?
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2022, 10:37 PM »
Surely it would take less time and hassle to just post an open thread asking if anyone on the FOG has the drill guide and ask them to take some measurements?  I believe I've seen at least a few people post that they have one.

Granted, it may not be as entertaining to read, but still...  [popcorn]

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Re: Woodpeckers Auto Line Drill Guide - As a Portable Tapping Station?
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2022, 01:18 PM »
Part Two

It's really sad when an honest attempt to learn basic information about something like a tool, particularly a premium priced tool that is impossible to see in person before purchase, is so hamstrung by illogical and tone deaf responses that the consumer, me in this case, is forced to under take a quest in an attempt to achieve the base modicum of customer service.

Based on WP's latest response, that's the direction this story has taken.

Here are the broad brushstrokes [depicted as honest satire in slightly fictitious transcribed form]:

Potential Customer ("PC"): "HI! I am writing to say that I'm considering purchasing your cool new tool. But before I do, and since I can't first see it in person, I need some simple questions answered that will enable me to know if I can use the tool in the manner I desire.

Manufacturer ("M"):  [silence]

PC: Hi Again! No one responded to my earlier email in which I posed several questions regarding the specifics of your cool new tool. Just in case I ended up in your spam folder I'm sending my original message again in the ongoing hope that someone will respond.

M: [silence]

PC: Hi Again. I'm posting on your Facebook page because no one bothered to respond to my earlier attempts to contact you via email. I continue to look forward to a reply.

M: [silence]

PC: Several days have passed since I uploaded the above comment but I'm still waiting for someone, anyone to respond.

M: [silence]

PC: [immediately following my selection of the "for technical assistance with one of our tools" prompt] Hi, I'm calling today in response to the fact that my earlier attempts to reach out to you via email and your public Facebook page went unheeded. I'm potentially interested in your cool new tool but before making a purchase would like to know a) one crucial dimension, b) whether a certain part is threaded the same on both ends, c) whether a particular spare parts is available and, if it is, how much it costs and d) what threading is used on this part and what threading is used on that part. I'm considering this portable tool for use as a portable version of the thing that your tool is based upon (but instead of using it to spin this type of thingy I want to use it to spin this type of thingy. I think you'll agree that my intended use is perfectly inline with the capabilites and overall functionality of your tool. But, because I intend to use it conjunction with this wimpy, hand-powered drill/driver doohicky instead of a super high-torque powered drill/driver doohicky I want to make sure enough clearance exists for the t-handle of the wimpy hand-powered drill/driver doohicky to spin freely. Since I'll need to order said doohicky from the other side of the planet I want to confirm in advance its compatability (or determine in advance what modification I may need to make to same). I also have an idea about how to greatly expand the capacity of your cool new tool which is why I am asking about spare parts availability and cost. Finally, since I plan to use your cool new tool with a variety of shop built jogs (and maybe a store bought one too), and because you chose to leave out the simple and straightforward functionality in this regard that literally every other version of your cool new tool that's available in the marketplace (both long before yours what released and since) boasts, I am having to resort to making use of the readed holes you did include in the base of your cool new tool (which are intended for the installation of your rather complicated and not very versatile outrigger system). I want to make sure that threading isn't some exotic breed that I will have trouble finding fasteners to match.

M: Piss off.

PC: Wait, have I not made it clear that I am a legit (potentially repeat) customer (and am not trying to rip you off) and have I not argued persuasively for why I need to know the answers to my questions?

M: Piss off.

PC: Hi! I recently got off the phone with one of your colleagues. I'm wondering if maybe you can assist me with finding the answers to some basic questions I have about your cool new tool.

M: Hang on while I put my hands on the tool in question.

M: OK, what do you want to know?

PC: I need this and this and this and this piece of info.

M: Hmm, I estimate the crucial dimension to be 52mm [not even close:
it's actually just shy of 42.7mm). [Thanks Paul for measuring yours and providing me the results! :)] As for the other bits of info I have no idea and cannot help you.

PC: OK, well at least you answered one of my questions [wildly incorrectly]. I'll reach out to unknown persons on a public forum to ask totally random and anonymous people technical questions about your product. That ought to go well.

M: OK, sounds good. Bye.

PC: Hi fellow forum goers! I'm finding it's like pulling teeth to get basic info from this supposed wunderkind of domestic manufacturers. Here's Part One of my negative experience with them. Stick around for Part Two!

M: Piss off [in email form this time]

PC: [in response to aforecited email msg] I'm writing to express my dissatisfaction with your response. Oh, and BTW, I'm sharing this entire experience publicly with the world via a highly popular online forum. I really hope I don't have to expend too much more energy fighting to ascertain the basic knowledge I need to be able to determine if I want to purchase your cool new tool or not. Finally, I observe that your cool new tool has already been copied and counterfeited by what appears to be several different nefarious actors. Given how the cat is already out of the bag in this regard, and Joe I am not a nefarious actor, I simply don't understand your illogical unwillinessness to share the basic info I've asked for. I've had made similar requests to other manufactures who fall all over themselves to help me. Your refusal to honor my legitimate questions sends up huge red flags and has me questioning whether I should do additional business with you.

Stay tuned for Part 3!
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Offline MikeGE

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Re: Woodpeckers Auto Line Drill Guide - As a Portable Tapping Station?
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2022, 02:56 PM »
Why don't you buy one to evaluate and then return it within the first 30 days for a refund if you don't like it?  This would eliminate the drama and answer your questions about suitability.

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Re: Woodpeckers Auto Line Drill Guide - As a Portable Tapping Station?
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2022, 03:06 PM »
Why don't you buy one to evaluate and then return it within the first 30 days for a refund if you don't like it?  This would eliminate the drama and answer your questions about suitability.

If it's not self explanatory:

1) I have other third party components I wish to use w/the guide and want to purchase them now given the long lead time I'll face ordering from the other side of the planet;

2) why should I have to open myself up to having to foot the bill for both way shipping when I can learn in advance the answers to these simple questions?; and

3) we as consumers shouldn't allow ourselves to be dismissed by manufactures especially those producing their wares domestically. I'll hold up TSO Products and companies like them as what should be the standard, not the kind of run around I'm getting. I'm asking basic questions & have no problem doing what it takes to highlight poor customer service. We deserve better particularly when it comes to a premium tool.
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Re: Woodpeckers Auto Line Drill Guide - As a Portable Tapping Station?
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2022, 03:12 PM »
Good luck!

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Re: Woodpeckers Auto Line Drill Guide - As a Portable Tapping Station?
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2022, 04:33 PM »
I can understand your frustration but maybe you should just get one of these and be done with it. Costs a fair amount more but will be much more satisfying to use, if versatile and efficient tapping is the goal.


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Re: Woodpeckers Auto Line Drill Guide - As a Portable Tapping Station?
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2022, 04:59 PM »
Banggood has already cranked a knock-off. Ask them, they might be more responsive.

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Re: Woodpeckers Auto Line Drill Guide - As a Portable Tapping Station?
« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2022, 06:35 PM »
Banggood has already cranked a knock-off. Ask them, they might be more responsive.

I know, right?! It's almost as if that's what WP wants me to do....

Maybe @jeffinsgf can chime in at some point so I'm not left hanging.
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Re: Woodpeckers Auto Line Drill Guide - As a Portable Tapping Station?
« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2022, 06:47 PM »
@Michael Kellough: thanks but no thanks. I'm only interested in adding versatility to the WP drill guide. As I tried to make clear above, my goal with the tools I purchase is to use them to their full potential so that I can do more with less, a necessity given my namesake. :)   
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Re: Woodpeckers Auto Line Drill Guide - As a Portable Tapping Station?
« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2022, 09:37 PM »
I use Irwin hex shank tap holders, a small and a large for my tapping on site coupled with Big Gator drill and tap guides.  These a essential for accurate commercial hardware installs.

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Re: Woodpeckers Auto Line Drill Guide - As a Portable Tapping Station?
« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2022, 10:04 PM »
Or just get a manual tap guide. This one says the capacity is from 0-80 to 10-24 & 1/4-20 to 1/2-13.

Just one example, there are plenty of similar tap guides available.

https://www.amazon.com/SHARS-Self-Aligning-Reamer-Holder-404-7388A/dp/B081VX3B3Z/ref=sr_1_12?crid=2L2B2GKSR11NQ&keywords=tap+guide&qid=1642215655&sprefix=tap+guide%2Caps%2C132&sr=8-12
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Re: Woodpeckers Auto Line Drill Guide - As a Portable Tapping Station?
« Reply #15 on: January 14, 2022, 10:19 PM »
I agree with above two posts. Inexpensive and compact. This will work better than anything you can cobble up involving WP drill guide.

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Re: Woodpeckers Auto Line Drill Guide - As a Portable Tapping Station?
« Reply #16 on: January 15, 2022, 11:52 AM »
Let me see if I can answer most of your questions.

Clearance from center of chuck to edge of vertical post is 1-7/8". You will have to grind off a bit of your handles.

Threads in the base are 1/4-20. Threads in the vertical posts are 5/16-18. Generally on our tools, WYSIWYG...standard thread sizes and pitches.

Vertical posts are pressed into the base, so you could remove them if you're determined and equipped, but I wouldn't recommend it. While the threads are the same in both ends, we have not tested, considered, suggested or contemplated extending the stroke by adding an extra post. I personally haven't seen the machining on the end of the post that is pressed into the base, but I am guessing there's a feature on there that would make it's use as an extension somewhere between ineffective and ill-advised. If you extend the posts, you're on your own.

You can put the spring on the wrong side and create downward pressure. Depending on what you're trying to thread, there is still quite a bit of travel using the existing spring.

Without going through the entire thread here, did I miss anything?
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Re: Woodpeckers Auto Line Drill Guide - As a Portable Tapping Station?
« Reply #17 on: January 15, 2022, 12:34 PM »
Clearance from center of chuck to edge of vertical post is 7/8". You will have to grind off a bit of your handles.

7/8”  ?

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Re: Woodpeckers Auto Line Drill Guide - As a Portable Tapping Station?
« Reply #18 on: January 15, 2022, 12:41 PM »
Having looked at the Drill Guide closely, it seems to me that WP could have used better bearings. The made in China bearings in my WP Auto-Line Drill Guide are rough. Should be better.

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« Reply #19 on: January 15, 2022, 12:48 PM »

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« Reply #20 on: January 15, 2022, 12:49 PM »
Having looked at the Drill Guide closely, it seems to me that WP could have used better bearings. The made in China bearings in my WP Auto-Line Drill Guide are rough. Should be better.

Call Customer Service. They shouldn't be rough.

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Re: Woodpeckers Auto Line Drill Guide - As a Portable Tapping Station?
« Reply #21 on: January 15, 2022, 12:51 PM »
Having looked at the Drill Guide closely, it seems to me that WP could have used better bearings. The made in China bearings in my WP Auto-Line Drill Guide are rough. Should be better.

Call Customer Service. They shouldn't be rough.

Thank you, I will do that.

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Re: Woodpeckers Auto Line Drill Guide - As a Portable Tapping Station?
« Reply #22 on: January 15, 2022, 02:34 PM »
@jeffinsgf - Thank you! Phew, glad that's over. With all of my questions now answered and the info I needed to make a decision in hand I can now move forward with placing my order! :) 

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