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Offline U-Scribe Jig Dan

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Re: U-Scribe Jig
« Reply #30 on: August 24, 2020, 06:28 AM »
I bought two sets over the xmas break and got a chance to use them on an install last week - very, very handy. One thing I learnt - leave your scribe line on, plane or cut etc right up to it, but leave the line there. As @xedos mentioned, match your scribe block exactly...but still leave the line on.
I'll be using them all the time now.

one thing I always say dude my self, keep the line in for the win, like any woodworking project, you can always take a bit more of but you can't add it back on, we'll not easily or nice looking anyway

stay safe buddy and happy scribing

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Re: U-Scribe Jig
« Reply #31 on: August 24, 2020, 06:29 AM »
I have the 18mm and the 16mm U Scribe jig sets. I fit both British and European cabinets, so do use both sizes.
Very useful, especially for tall fillers and when scribing long lengths of material.....

These are the ones for 16mm cabinet material....The kitchen is German.

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Familiar Face, Hows it going buddy, I try to keep an eye in on the KFF and have been speaking to cliff a lot lately and had him on the podcast too

stay safe and happy scribing

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Re: U-Scribe Jig
« Reply #32 on: August 24, 2020, 06:34 AM »
Yea that doesnt make sense to me either. I thought most people scribed with something like this: LINK or LINK


That said, something like that U-Scribe looks CRAZY easy to 3D print. Give me some dimensions for it and I could slap together a 3D model and throw it up on Thingiverse in 20 minutes for ya!

Like most ideas ben it didn't start off a simple idea, its an idea based around a method designed, protected and brought to market professionally by two fellow tradesmen, the whole, I can replicate this myself and put in on thingyverse is a bit rum and frowned upon by most honest tradesmen.... im not looking for an argument as this isn't our first rodeo, I just like to inform people this isn't Bosch, festoon or Lamello its tea fellow tradesmen who had an idea that other tradesmen asked for, we didn't create a problem then a solution like a lot of ideas to create a market to make money, because let me tell you we don't do it for the money as its a super expensive industry anything in plastics

stay safe and happy scribing

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Re: U-Scribe Jig
« Reply #33 on: August 24, 2020, 06:35 AM »
Hi Matt

For the project that you showed to me recently, I think you will be able to scribe it with just a compass. HD used to sell General brand compasses and they were inexpensive and easy to modify as needed. I don't know if HD still has them but if not I can give one to you.

Great ,little compasses, I use them a lot, work really well on mouldings with a @uscribejig too

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Re: U-Scribe Jig
« Reply #34 on: August 24, 2020, 06:37 AM »
interesing, i had questions but then i found




i can see not special for toekicks or shorter side pieces. but the long stuff or ceiling .... yea

Not my greatest Video, I hope the most recent ones on you tube and the saved stories on Instagram and Tik Tok are a lot better, that was very early on and I wasn't sure what to do 🙈

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« Reply #35 on: August 24, 2020, 06:38 AM »
Its has to be me. But after watching I still don’t understand how this is supposed work. Guessing someone installing this, probable will.

Anyway, for the noobs, some closeups of what it actually does, might be handy! I do understand it helps for scribing. But thats more the name of jig then the video.


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hi buddy, the latest you tube, Instagram and Tik Tok stories and videos may help, plus im always here to help or answer questions dude

thanks Dan

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« Reply #36 on: August 24, 2020, 06:41 AM »
basically all it does is to hold the filler piece solid while you use some other tool to scribe the line. if you use it so the filler is aligned witht eh edge of the cabinet then you can use a piece of the cabinet material to scribe rather than a variable compas or other adjustable scribe tool


that's right dude, using the offset as your scribe amount, plus if you flip them over which I call the infinity method you can scribe as big a filler as you need again with a simple off cut, its all about fixing the reference point, that's the whole ethos around the idea, working from a fixed point, so your marking the image of the wall floor or ceiling directly onto your material, giving you the perfect scribbling first time, and making the whole job easier and more consistent

thanks Dan

Stay safe and happy scribing

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Re: U-Scribe Jig
« Reply #37 on: August 24, 2020, 09:34 AM »
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Again, not sure where you are going, but I work for top notch clients,  am heavily invested in Festool, and get paid well for craftsmanship that satisfies the most discriminating tastes

Here's where I'm going:   just because you don't -or- can't see the value in an item doesn't make it worthless.  Nor is you way of doing a task better than someone else's.    Most guys round here have lots of Festool, know what their doing, and are well paid.   Let me know when you're charging well over $100/hr, are turning away customers because you don't like their design, and have people send their plane for you and your systainers because they don't want to wait for you to drive to them for a project. 

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The “good enough” attitude is exactly what made me give up on commercial installers/fabricators/ craft people and take care of business myself.

Whoever said, "Good enough isn't" was right! 
 

You guys are missing the point entirely.  Prob. because I didn't do a good job articulating it.  Let me try again.  While I agree there has been a slippage of attitude on what's acceptable work, part of the blame must lie with the customer.  Shopping low price as one of the highest priorities and still expecting highend Rockefeller or Vanderbilt level work is untenable.   Too many ignorant craftsmen undervalue their work and provide more quality than the customer paid for all in the name of craftsmanship and perpetuating the good enough isn't mentality.  Don't get me wrong, the craftsmen are also culpable and TV also has a hand in providing unrealistic expectations. 

You guys don't expect the lil ol' garage mechanic to do as good a job a the suburban Lexus dealer or that Harbor Freight router to be as good as your OF1400.     Do you ? 

Just because you paid what you think is a lot of money doesn't entitle you to an uber quality job.  Why is you allow for HF's router to be less than stellar because it's cheap yet you think the cheap carpenter owes you a darn near perfect scribe that requires no caulk and leaves your space absolutely dust free ?  Because he's an ignorant craftsman and HF is a sophisticated BORG ?




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Re: U-Scribe Jig
« Reply #38 on: August 24, 2020, 10:52 AM »
We all have our own way of doing things, and Im sure we all try to do our best work. If we find a tool or gadget that we think will make our jobs easier, faster or or more accurate, we invest in them. Some gadgets are useful for some but not all. I respect anyone that comes up with a useful idea, and shares it with others. I've discovered over the years that sometimes it's tools, sometimes it's technique. A balance of both
seems to work best. On most of my installs, I'm scribing columns and end  panels to one wall and floor, or 2 walls and floor. Simple compass is the only quick way to do this. Try many techniques and tools, including u-scribe, and decide which works best for you!! Good luck to all, and stay busy!

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« Reply #39 on: August 24, 2020, 12:28 PM »
Dan,

This is an encouragement not a criticism. If you want to sell your jig, make a better video that's well under 5 minutes long... 3 perhaps? (many good product videos are 1 minute long or 2 (at the most). Festool videos are a good example.

I must echo threesixright; I lost interest after the first few minutes (and I wasn't going to watch it till the end of 15 minutes). There's no reason why your jig needs a long video to explain its features or how to use it.

I know video making/editing is time-consuming and is a skill different from woodworking. But if you have a good product, you should invest the time it deserves. Get a helper, if necessary when videotaping.

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Re: U-Scribe Jig
« Reply #40 on: August 24, 2020, 12:40 PM »
Its has to be me. But after watching I still don’t understand how this is supposed work. Guessing someone installing this, probable will.

Anyway, for the noobs, some closeups of what it actually does, might be handy! I do understand it helps for scribing. But thats more the name of jig then the video.


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hi buddy, the latest you tube, Instagram and Tik Tok stories and videos may help, plus im always here to help or answer questions dude

thanks Dan

Thansk for the props. This took some figuring for me as well. I watched all your videos and I still stuggled a bit to determine the correct ref point where I was doing the overlay fillers. The flush ones were pretty straight forward. It turned out well in the end. Either way it allowed me to work by myself and/or without the aid of clamps or awkward holding.

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Re: U-Scribe Jig
« Reply #41 on: August 24, 2020, 12:48 PM »
Its has to be me. But after watching I still don’t understand how this is supposed work. Guessing someone installing this, probable will.

Anyway, for the noobs, some closeups of what it actually does, might be handy! I do understand it helps for scribing. But thats more the name of jig then the video.


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hi buddy, the latest you tube, Instagram and Tik Tok stories and videos may help, plus im always here to help or answer questions dude

thanks Dan

Thansk for the props. This took some figuring for me as well. I watched all your videos and I still stuggled a bit to determine the correct ref point where I was doing the overlay fillers. The flush ones were pretty straight forward. It turned out well in the end. Either way it allowed me to work by myself and/or without the aid of clamps or awkward holding.

yes i agree with all. the long video is good but a short video brief animation of some sort would work best. the main page is where it should be not instagram. the nature of instagram is that either videos don't exist yet or they are being pushed down by the new ones

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Re: U-Scribe Jig
« Reply #42 on: August 24, 2020, 01:01 PM »
We all have our own way of doing things, and Im sure we all try to do our best work. If we find a tool or gadget that we think will make our jobs easier, faster or or more accurate, we invest in them. Some gadgets are useful for some but not all. I respect anyone that comes up with a useful idea, and shares it with others. I've discovered over the years that sometimes it's tools, sometimes it's technique. A balance of both
seems to work best. On most of my installs, I'm scribing columns and end  panels to one wall and floor, or 2 walls and floor. Simple compass is the only quick way to do this. Try many techniques and tools, including u-scribe, and decide which works best for you!! Good luck to all, and stay busy!

I agree buddy, birth of the internet was the birth of 1000's of teachers and 1000's of students with access to other peoples techniques, tips and advice, there is some amazing people and products ive seen in just a few years on social media and forums as I rarely looked before u-scribe, but after we thrust ourselves into this industry it is almost a pandoras box of ideas, products methods, tools etc, ive picked up some great tips and advice and some not so good ones, but I pick from what I like and add it too my current methods and processes

its about choice, trying and seeing what works for you

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Re: U-Scribe Jig
« Reply #43 on: August 24, 2020, 01:09 PM »
Dan,

This is an encouragement not a criticism. If you want to sell your jig, make a better video that's well under 5 minutes long... 3 perhaps? (many good product videos are 1 minute long or 2 (at the most). Festool videos are a good example.

I must echo threesixright; I lost interest after the first few minutes (and I wasn't going to watch it till the end of 15 minutes). There's no reason why your jig needs a long video to explain its features or how to use it.

I know video making/editing is time-consuming and is a skill different from woodworking. But if you have a good product, you should invest the time it deserves. Get a helper, if necessary when videotaping.

your 100% correct buddy, one reason I made another couple of videos for you tube afterwards, but our focus wasn't directly the polished professional look modern business seems to adapt, sometimes smoke and mirrors and a little BS, I wanted the product to fall into fellow tradesmen tool kits and get them to use the power of social media along side out socials and there skills to show how the product can simplify and help consistency scribing long or small fillers, so we took a back seat on the traditional approach, decided to see people in person at tool fairs and local tool shows and retail open days, but now we feel with the fantastic response and support from the trade we can now add this Short but professional video to our website and you tube to easily explain its use, function and method, the feedback from people like yourself is so important and I thank you, as two tradesmen we knew little or nothing of, patents, Protection, Registrations, copyrights, insurances, social media, LTD, VAT, Injection moulding, designing.....the list goes on we've been at it a couple of years and im an open book, we've learnt as we have gone along, hence the social media being a big part of who we are.


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Re: U-Scribe Jig
« Reply #44 on: August 24, 2020, 01:13 PM »
Its has to be me. But after watching I still don’t understand how this is supposed work. Guessing someone installing this, probable will.

Anyway, for the noobs, some closeups of what it actually does, might be handy! I do understand it helps for scribing. But thats more the name of jig then the video.


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hi buddy, the latest you tube, Instagram and Tik Tok stories and videos may help, plus im always here to help or answer questions dude

thanks Dan

Thansk for the props. This took some figuring for me as well. I watched all your videos and I still stuggled a bit to determine the correct ref point where I was doing the overlay fillers. The flush ones were pretty straight forward. It turned out well in the end. Either way it allowed me to work by myself and/or without the aid of clamps or awkward holding.

Definitely going to cover all the methods and filler types on you tube and on our webpage in the coming months dude, we've taken a Different approach to getting out there but I understand these videos do need making, cost aside we've been learning on the job each month weve invested all the money into improving, Wether its packaging, the product, branding, website, packing and shipping....this industry is a serious money pit 😂😂😂

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Re: U-Scribe Jig
« Reply #45 on: August 24, 2020, 01:20 PM »
Its has to be me. But after watching I still don’t understand how this is supposed work. Guessing someone installing this, probable will.

Anyway, for the noobs, some closeups of what it actually does, might be handy! I do understand it helps for scribing. But thats more the name of jig then the video.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

hi buddy, the latest you tube, Instagram and Tik Tok stories and videos may help, plus im always here to help or answer questions dude

thanks Dan

Thansk for the props. This took some figuring for me as well. I watched all your videos and I still stuggled a bit to determine the correct ref point where I was doing the overlay fillers. The flush ones were pretty straight forward. It turned out well in the end. Either way it allowed me to work by myself and/or without the aid of clamps or awkward holding.

yes i agree with all. the long video is good but a short video brief animation of some sort would work best. the main page is where it should be not instagram. the nature of instagram is that either videos don't exist yet or they are being pushed down by the new ones

I agree buddy, that was very early on in our journey and to be honest we weren't sure if the idea would take off and to be honest we didn't really have a clue what to do, that's me on a job with an old iPhone that wouldn't hold charge for long, ive done a couple more after this, and we used social media as our outlet, I know now as we have become established and shipped to nearly all corners of the globe a short but really well made instructional video will really help grab peoples initial attention and explain exactly what u-scribe jig is for

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« Reply #46 on: August 25, 2020, 02:21 AM »
Try to do some close ups so we can see how the tool works. I kind of have an idea... It would be nice to see a close up of the tool? Don’t orient the camera up and down, shoot with a 4:3 or 16:9 aspect ratio. You could probably find a high school or college kid to do the shooting. Most of these kids grew up with YouTube and have been shooting and editing for 10 years. You really only need a half hour of shooting, possibly 15 minutes if you nail it on the first shot. There’s set up, some discussion, lighting, audio, etc. You don’t need A fancy camera. An iPhone will do, just get the audio in the bag and the footage in the can. You’re done. Good audio is what makes a video good in technical terms, provided nothing else is off. The tool looks nice - - -

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« Reply #47 on: August 25, 2020, 02:44 AM »
I have scribed MILES of fillers and toekick and I dont see the need for this tool. $1.00 General Tool compass and accurate measurement is all that is needed. The key for accuracy for me is to bend the tip  a bit away from the pencil.

and your helper hold the material while you use that compass right ?
thats the right (Helper) foot that’s holding the stock (filler)... Not to be confused with the left foot which you’re standing on?

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« Reply #48 on: August 25, 2020, 10:07 AM »
I have scribed MILES of fillers and toekick and I dont see the need for this tool. $1.00 General Tool compass and accurate measurement is all that is needed. The key for accuracy for me is to bend the tip  a bit away from the pencil.

and your helper hold the material while you use that compass right ?
thats the right (Helper) foot that’s holding the stock (filler)... Not to be confused with the left foot which you’re standing on?

Ouch! [big grin]