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Offline Cheese

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Armor 54"x25" Premium Maple Table Top
« on: April 12, 2021, 11:20 AM »
Just ran across this item this morning. A maple top, 1 1/2" thick with 3/4" diameter dog holes for $250. The material alone will cost more than that. It'd make a perfect clamping table for glue-ups despite the 3/4" diameter holes.

https://www.woodcraft.com/products/54x25-premium-hardwood-peg-table-top



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Offline RustE

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Re: Armor 54"x25" Premium Maple Table Top
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2021, 11:28 AM »
Their table kit is a decent deal too:
https://www.rockler.com/armor-butcher-block-clamping-table-kit

The Armor stand is on par with or slightly better than the similar Kreg stand.

Offline Bertotti

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Re: Armor 54"x25" Premium Maple Table Top
« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2021, 09:56 PM »
Nice, Keep an eye on the lumber liquidator website. Not sure what their new name is now but I picked up some maple butcher block countertops 8'  long on sale for a 350 each. It happens once in awile.
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Offline Bob D.

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Re: Armor 54"x25" Premium Maple Table Top
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2021, 09:59 PM »
I wonder how hard it would be to take those 3/4" holes out to 20mm.
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Offline Cheese

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Re: Armor 54"x25" Premium Maple Table Top
« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2021, 10:22 PM »
I wonder how hard it would be to take those 3/4" holes out to 20mm.

That was my thought exactly today Bob...although you're still stuck with a 3" CL to CL measurement. Thus the reason I considered it to be a great assembly/fixturing table.

Offline RustE

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Re: Armor 54"x25" Premium Maple Table Top
« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2021, 11:37 PM »
I wonder how hard it would be to take those 3/4" holes out to 20mm.
That was my thought exactly today Bob...

Maybe the UJK reamer would work?  Perhaps a bit more than I’d usually want to cut, although removes the idea of having to re-center the cutter.

Offline Cheese

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Re: Armor 54"x25" Premium Maple Table Top
« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2021, 11:58 PM »
Maybe the UJK reamer would work?  Perhaps a bit more than I’d usually want to cut, although removes the idea of having to re-center the cutter.

Good thought RustE...but unfortunately, probably not. Reamers are designed to remove a few thousandths of material, like .001"-.003" in metals, so for wood their limit may be around .005". The 3/4" OD needs to be opened up .037", so .0185" per side.  [sad]

However, now that you mention it, it would be relatively easy to manufacture a 3/4" diameter pilot that would attach to a 20 mm cutter. Think of a 20 mm Zobo bit that would accept a 3/4" screw-in pilot.  [big grin]  That could work really well.

Matter of fact, I already have a 20 mm Zobo bit that has a 6 mm screw-in pilot installed. It wouldn't take much to machine a 3/4" pilot version.  [cool]
« Last Edit: April 13, 2021, 12:18 AM by Cheese »

Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: Armor 54"x25" Premium Maple Table Top
« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2021, 12:43 AM »
At 1-1/2” thick you’ll need to make the hole on the underside closer to 30mm if you want to fit a Festool clamp thru the hole.

Offline Cheese

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Re: Armor 54"x25" Premium Maple Table Top
« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2021, 09:33 AM »
Or just do this...






Offline Bertotti

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Re: Armor 54"x25" Premium Maple Table Top
« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2021, 10:27 AM »
Cheese is that 1080 down the front of your bench? If so how well does it work?
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Offline Cheese

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Re: Armor 54"x25" Premium Maple Table Top
« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2021, 11:11 AM »
Cheese is that 1080 down the front of your bench? If so how well does it work?

Ya, it works really well for clamping. Clamping is the obvious benefit. It lag screws into the front, 8020 slides over the lags and then when properly placed the lags are tightened.






Here I needed to install a spacer on the edge of the bench to rest the front of the MFS on. A piece of 3/4" thick 1575 profile works well and is easily attached/removed. It acts as both a material stop and a height spacer.


Offline RustE

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Re: Armor 54"x25" Premium Maple Table Top
« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2021, 12:28 PM »
Or just do this...

What is the orange (rubber) piece?

Offline Cheese

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Re: Armor 54"x25" Premium Maple Table Top
« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2021, 12:41 PM »
It’s a toilet washer that fits snugly around the clamp and nestles into the 20 mm hole to hold the clamp rod in place before the other part of the clamp is attached.

Offline Bertotti

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Re: Armor 54"x25" Premium Maple Table Top
« Reply #13 on: April 13, 2021, 01:11 PM »
Cheese is that 1080 down the front of your bench? If so how well does it work?

Ya, it works really well for clamping. Clamping is the obvious benefit. It lag screws into the front, 8020 slides over the lags and then when properly placed the lags are tightened.

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Here I needed to install a spacer on the edge of the bench to rest the front of the MFS on. A piece of 3/4" thick 1575 profile works well and is easily attached/removed. It acts as both a material stop and a height spacer.

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Nice. I have been eyeballing 8020, I don't know why I keep calling it 1080. I have that stuck in my head. But there is a leveling jig I have in mind and I think 8020 would work well for these slabs I got. Which could later be repurposed into the beginnings of a cnc frame. Thank!
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Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: Armor 54"x25" Premium Maple Table Top
« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2021, 01:17 PM »
The 8020 website has a deflection calculator that is very helpful when designing stuff that requires higher stiffness.

Offline Bertotti

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Re: Armor 54"x25" Premium Maple Table Top
« Reply #15 on: April 13, 2021, 01:45 PM »
I have been to 8020net is it the same site? I have missed that calculator. Deflection is the one hold up in my design.
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Offline Cheese

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Re: Armor 54"x25" Premium Maple Table Top
« Reply #16 on: April 13, 2021, 01:48 PM »

Offline Sparktrician

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Re: Armor 54"x25" Premium Maple Table Top
« Reply #17 on: April 13, 2021, 05:50 PM »
Another source for butcher block tops is Global Industrial.  The size range and prices are good, but I have no experience with the quality of the products.
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Offline neilc

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Re: Armor 54"x25" Premium Maple Table Top
« Reply #18 on: April 13, 2021, 09:14 PM »
I drew up an SVG that would allow anyone with a Shaper Origin to route the holes to be 20mm.  I'd probably route them about 1/2" deep and then use a top-bearing router bit to finish the rest of the thickness.





SVG is in the zip file attached.