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Offline JonathanJung

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Tilting table / vise for drill press
« on: October 27, 2021, 01:15 PM »
I'd like to add a left-right tilting table / clamp / vise to my drill press. Its table doesn't tilt. I would be using it for woodworking, so I'm thinking at least 6" width holding capacity, or provision for hold downs.

Is there anything out there, well made, or will I have to come up with something on my own? Maybe get some sort of vise and bolt it to a tiltable table. At least, a tilting bed with T slots for clamps and hold downs.

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Offline Chainring

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Re: Tilting table / vise for drill press
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2021, 01:25 PM »
I'm sure there's a more, umm, economical solution to be had, but Woodpeckers recently announced a tilting type thing for a drill press.

Offline Jason Hagen

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Re: Tilting table / vise for drill press
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2021, 01:27 PM »
I'm not sure how much you are looking to spend, but Woodpeckers just announced a new tool yesterday that does exactly what you are looking for.

Duax Angle Drilling Table

Offline woodwise

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Re: Tilting table / vise for drill press
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2021, 01:27 PM »
Loved working with these old machines, glad they are still finding good homes.

A sine vice may be what you are looking for, or a sine plate may give you more versatility.

Interested to see what others suggest.

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Re: Tilting table / vise for drill press
« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2021, 01:43 PM »
I'm sure there's a more, umm, economical solution to be had, but Woodpeckers recently announced a tilting type thing for a drill press.
I'm not sure how much you are looking to spend, but Woodpeckers just announced a new tool yesterday that does exactly what you are looking for.

Duax Angle Drilling Table

Priorities are size and quality, then cost. The Woodpeck looks nice for small stuff, but I'd be afeared to clamp a chunk of 16/4 walnut on it for a big forstner bit.

Loved working with these old machines, glad they are still finding good homes.

A sine vice may be what you are looking for, or a sine plate may give you more versatility.

Interested to see what others suggest.

Yes, the old arn machines are a joy to work on. So well made and easy to service. The sine vices I see are too small for me.

I think maybe what I'm looking for is an auxiliary table that pivots up from one side and locks into place. Like these but better made with slots etc.:


Offline Peter_C

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Re: Tilting table / vise for drill press
« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2021, 04:01 PM »
Setup a search on Ebay for a large industrial tilting table that fits your post, and install it instead of the current table. Nice drill press!

I'd trade my cheesy Wilton for a HD Walker Turner like that in a heart beat, but then I would have the same problem you are as I need the tilting table especially when fish mouthing roll cage tubing in a jig.

Edit: https://www.grizzly.com/products/grizzly-tilt-table-7-x-10/g5759
Got a picture from underneath? Can you add a trunnion to your drill press table? Wouldn't surprise me if it was possible to unbolt the table and add one in.
« Last Edit: October 27, 2021, 04:06 PM by Peter_C »

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Re: Tilting table / vise for drill press
« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2021, 06:30 PM »
Would a sine plate work for you?

Offline Cheese

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Re: Tilting table / vise for drill press
« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2021, 12:23 AM »
I'd take a look at Wilton, Palmgren or KBC. They all offer both inexpensive and industrial quality metal working vises depending upon your needs. Wood working vises tend to be smaller & lighter, however I gravitate towards the heavier metal working models as the additional weight becomes your friend because they resist movement if large material cuts are taken or if you machine metals.

However, the weight issue has to be balanced by how often you will be moving and removing the vise from the drill press table. I normally use a 40# Heinrich and that's at my limit of tolerance. Gone are the days when moving a 70-80# vise was considered easy or normal.

https://wiltontools.com/us/en/c/machine-vises-milling/cat_wlt_machine_vises_milling?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIldLL-Jns8wIVnWxvBB2lggVnEAAYASAAEgLpN_D_BwE

https://www.palmgren.com/category/Vises/3

https://www.kbctools.com/CatSearch/347/angle-vises

Offline rvieceli

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Re: Tilting table / vise for drill press
« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2021, 06:29 AM »
Take a look at what you will be doing with it. IF you are going to be using only one or two angles then a shop make jig may be your best bet. Securely fastening it to your table.

If you need several different angles then one of the vises that Cheese linked to would serve you better. If you are concerned about their holding capacity on long pieces then get two   [eek]

For mission critical work you will want to fasten those vises to the table, that's what those slots in the base a for.  [wink]

Ron

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Re: Tilting table / vise for drill press
« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2021, 10:29 AM »
Your drill press has a real nice, heavy, thick, table with slots for T-bolts and a coolant trough that retains any cutting fluids that are used. These are usually referred to as "Production Tables" and are usually fly-cut or blanchard ground flat on the top surface, specifically to mount auxiliary vises/fixtures.

Thus your options are less limited than if your table was only for wood working.

That photo of the wooden fixture that you attached is actually a wooden version of a typical sine plate used for metal working. That may be an option in either metal or home made from wood.




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Re: Tilting table / vise for drill press
« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2021, 11:29 AM »
Setup a search on Ebay for a large industrial tilting table that fits your post, and install it instead of the current table. Nice drill press!

I'd trade my cheesy Wilton for a HD Walker Turner like that in a heart beat, but then I would have the same problem you are as I need the tilting table especially when fish mouthing roll cage tubing in a jig.

Edit: https://www.grizzly.com/products/grizzly-tilt-table-7-x-10/g5759
Got a picture from underneath? Can you add a trunnion to your drill press table? Wouldn't surprise me if it was possible to unbolt the table and add one in.

That's a good idea, I looked up and found the original brochure and see that Walker Turner made a tilting table for this machine, but it wasn't common.

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Re: Tilting table / vise for drill press
« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2021, 11:35 AM »
Your drill press has a real nice, heavy, thick, table with slots for T-bolts and a coolant trough that retains any cutting fluids that are used. These are usually referred to as "Production Tables" and are usually fly-cut or blanchard ground flat on the top surface, specifically to mount auxiliary vises/fixtures.

Thus your options are less limited than if your table was only for wood working.

That photo of the wooden fixture that you attached is actually a wooden version of a typical sine plate used for metal working. That may be an option in either metal or home made from wood.

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Sounds like making a form of sine plate, 22" x 19", to fit the table, is the best option. I drew up some plans. The black plates will be hinges, the 3 feet are adjusters for resetting to flat position. Any recommendations for improvement?
« Last Edit: October 31, 2021, 11:38 AM by JonathanJung »

Offline Mini Me

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Re: Tilting table / vise for drill press
« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2021, 07:30 PM »
I always find that Google images always give a lot of choices when researching jigs etc

Offline Cheese

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Re: Tilting table / vise for drill press
« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2021, 09:49 AM »
The black plates will be hinges, the 3 feet are adjusters for resetting to flat position. Any recommendations for improvement?

I'd replace the 3 adjusters with a single piece of wood or aluminum tubing and use that as a positive stop. You already have stops in the form of the 2 rails that fold onto each other. The extra wood/aluminum piece is really only to help prevent any table bowing.

I'd also incorporate this style of locking handle because they're quick and you can generate more leverage on the handle.

https://www.kippusa.com/us/en/Products/Adjustable-Handles.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIvIPCy6v38wIVaHNvBB3TaANQEAAYASAAEgKskfD_BwE

« Last Edit: November 01, 2021, 10:10 AM by Cheese »