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Offline jmbfestool

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Re: The Mighty Sword!
« Reply #30 on: October 09, 2010, 01:29 PM »
Give me 10   Ill remove my bar on my husqvarna see it thats the same cus that has a cutting depth of 350
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Offline jmbfestool

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Re: The Mighty Sword!
« Reply #31 on: October 09, 2010, 01:37 PM »
I was like   [scared] Its going to fit!  As it got closer to the protool I was thing yes yes but the holes are higher up so drill two holes and it will fit!     Im sure you can get one to fit!!!!   The protool has a wider bar than my chain saw!   Oh also it is quite easy to remove to riding knife!  If you look at the pictures the metal riding knife goes under the bar so if you had a longer bar it would be in the way so you could either cut it or! Remove it or easily get one made to suite the bar.  looks like you can easily unscrew it!


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Offline Deansocial

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Re: The Mighty Sword!
« Reply #32 on: October 09, 2010, 02:02 PM »
well at least we know its a 1.3mm 3/8pitch bar

Offline jmbfestool

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Re: The Mighty Sword!
« Reply #33 on: October 09, 2010, 03:07 PM »
How do you know that?!   I never bought a bar before so dont know nothing bought them!  all I know is after a while turn them around as they wear out!


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Offline Deansocial

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Re: The Mighty Sword!
« Reply #34 on: October 09, 2010, 03:30 PM »
the code on the oregon chain which is a good chain and half the price of protool. only turn certain bars around as some only work 1 way

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Re: The Mighty Sword!
« Reply #35 on: October 09, 2010, 03:34 PM »
okay confused!

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Re: The Mighty Sword!
« Reply #36 on: October 09, 2010, 03:56 PM »
whats confused you? it says on the bag of the oregon chain in your 3rd pic   91vg039  which means its a type 91 chain which is 3/8pitch 1.3mm groove and needs a type 91 bar. your chain is 39links long

Offline jmbfestool

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Re: The Mighty Sword!
« Reply #37 on: October 09, 2010, 04:13 PM »
lol!   No! not me silly!!!!


I c where you got the info from now!  Ill most likely have a new bar monday! lol if one will fit no problem With a chain to fit ofcorse! Ill most likely never use it BUT knowing when I come on a job I do I know I have one ready to use no problem!!!


JMB
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Offline jmbfestool

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Re: The Mighty Sword!
« Reply #38 on: October 09, 2010, 04:20 PM »
I was being stupid!  I never looked at the bag! I just ripped it open and fitted the chain!   The Oregen one is the one which comes with chain saw and the Protool one is the one he gave to me for free.   Well when I was at the NEC thats the one I picked!   Making me think now!  Seems odd protool does not put a protool chain in.  Do you think he put the oregen chain isntead?! and the Protool is the one which comes with the Protool so I should of had to protool chains?!?!


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Offline Deansocial

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Re: The Mighty Sword!
« Reply #39 on: October 09, 2010, 04:37 PM »
he will have taken the protool chains to "give away" and put oregon chains in there place i think. They a suposed to be good chains i think. only £8.75inc

Offline jmbfestool

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Re: The Mighty Sword!
« Reply #40 on: October 09, 2010, 04:45 PM »
he will have taken the protool chains to "give away" and put oregon chains in there place i think. They a suposed to be good chains i think. only £8.75inc


What thats it 8.75!!!!!!  The protools are like 25 or more!  That sucks man!!!  I gotta find out lol!!!  I wanna know what Protool sell the Sword wiv! Like to know what chain it comes with!


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Offline justinmcf

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Re: The Mighty Sword!
« Reply #41 on: October 09, 2010, 04:53 PM »
hi jmb.

 you should check out protool.com.au

you will find all the accessories available for the protool sword saw.

have you used the saw much?
does it leave a splinter free cut?

i suspect it will be for rough cutting only.

i thought about buying the swordsaw for cutting and rippping coconut posts, but these are dressed all round and i reckon the protool will leave a lot of chipped edges.

Offline Deansocial

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Re: The Mighty Sword!
« Reply #42 on: October 09, 2010, 05:02 PM »
yep should come with a protool universal chain. just checked their site out

Offline jmbfestool

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Re: The Mighty Sword!
« Reply #43 on: October 09, 2010, 05:05 PM »
Well I only got to play with it 2 day! I only done ONE cut with it so far lol and that was set at a 60 degree angle cutting softwood 4''x4''  The cut was fine!!!  As I said before it does not touch the splinter guard as its not a tool for clean cuts really but its a good thing as if it did it would ruin your splinter guard for your TS55
 
Give me a week to have more time to play and try it out on some stuff! I have some oak flooring ill rip one down see how clean it cuts.


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Offline jmbfestool

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Re: The Mighty Sword!
« Reply #44 on: October 09, 2010, 05:22 PM »
justinmcf, not really any accessories for it just spare parts really and replacements.  
JMB
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Offline jmbfestool

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Re: The Mighty Sword!
« Reply #45 on: October 09, 2010, 05:30 PM »
Oh Poo!

I just saw the picture and 10 m!   [embarassed] [embarassed] [embarassed] [embarassed] [embarassed] [embarassed] [embarassed] [embarassed]


I bet you wont edit your post will ya! Why did you quote it! Even though I removed it on mine yours has it!
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Offline justinmcf

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Re: The Mighty Sword!
« Reply #46 on: October 09, 2010, 05:35 PM »
all the blades are on the website also.
at the bottom of the swordsaw page

Offline jmbfestool

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Re: The Mighty Sword!
« Reply #47 on: October 09, 2010, 05:36 PM »
all the blades are on the website also.
at the bottom of the swordsaw page


Just a shame they dont make and sell a longer bar as an extra

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Offline Deansocial

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Re: The Mighty Sword!
« Reply #48 on: October 09, 2010, 05:41 PM »
all the blades are on the website also.
at the bottom of the swordsaw page


Just a shame they dont make and sell a longer bar as an extra

JMB

why would they do that when they can sell you a tool 4 times the price, oh wait the bar from that might .....

Offline jmbfestool

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Re: The Mighty Sword!
« Reply #49 on: October 09, 2010, 05:44 PM »
lol!    Are you looking?!?!?!  I don't think the bar will fit! 


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Offline Deansocial

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Re: The Mighty Sword!
« Reply #50 on: October 09, 2010, 05:46 PM »
same pitch etcb ut i think 380mm is a tad long. i think a 300mm chain would be perfect

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Re: The Mighty Sword!
« Reply #51 on: October 09, 2010, 05:52 PM »
all the blades are on the website also.
at the bottom of the swordsaw page


I looked on the bottom of my Protool lid of the Sword!    Their are 3 more accesories you can get but I can not find them on the web site.   

PG A SSP 200 777812

PG SSP 200 777806


This has my interest
GRP AG 2 638196
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Offline jmbfestool

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Re: The Mighty Sword!
« Reply #52 on: October 09, 2010, 05:53 PM »
same pitch etcb ut i think 380mm is a tad long. i think a 300mm chain would be perfect


Umm if it fits does it matter?!?!?!  Didnt think you would moan abit it being to long  [unsure]
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Re: The Mighty Sword!
« Reply #53 on: October 09, 2010, 05:56 PM »
same pitch etcb ut i think 380mm is a tad long. i think a 300mm chain would be perfect


Umm if it fits does it matter?!?!?!  Didnt think you would moan abit it being to long  [unsure]

might not fit in the systainer

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Re: The Mighty Sword!
« Reply #54 on: October 09, 2010, 05:59 PM »
all the blades are on the website also.
at the bottom of the swordsaw page


I looked on the bottom of my Protool lid of the Sword!    Their are 3 more accesories you can get but I can not find them on the web site.   

PG A SSP 200 777812

PG SSP 200 777806


This has my interest
GRP AG 2 638196

angle ometer

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Re: The Mighty Sword!
« Reply #55 on: October 09, 2010, 06:00 PM »
other 2 are pararell guides

Offline jvsteenb

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Re: The Mighty Sword!
« Reply #56 on: October 10, 2010, 03:18 AM »
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I c where you got the info from now!  Ill most likely have a new bar monday!

You may want to hold off a bit on that one...
The Protool bar is designed to be run in reverse direction, so it´s oil holes are on the opposite side of the blade. As it seems, a standard 91 blade won´t fit, unless you want to run your chain without lubrication.
The fact that there´s an oil hole at the right side facing you means that the blade is reversible BTW, and you should definitely do that - prserves the bar AND the chain.
1,6 kW input power transforms in less then 2 Hp output, so you probably don't even want a longer blade, although 30cm might work out.
My 2Hp tophandle chainsaw swings that exact same chain around on a 30cm blade, but i sure wouldn't want to bury anything close to it's full length in wood while cutting.
As a contrast: My Stihl MS660 felling saw definitely needs its 7+ Hp to swing around a 63cm blade in denser woods... although a 75 cm blade would do in softwoods.

What I WOULD do in your case is get an extra chain for ripping cuts, the 91R type will do fine. It will save you the hassle of regrinding a standard chain to a low angle. Mind you these chains are NOT low kickback chains, at least the 91R isn't. But I suppose that won't matter to much in this application on a guide rail...


Regards,

Job
TS55, OF1010, RO150, RTS400, PS300, T15+3, CTL22E, CMS-TS55+Basis5A (OF1010), MFT/3, MFS400/700, FS800-1080-1400-1900, Centrotec-SYS 09, DF 500 full set, some accessories :)

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Re: The Mighty Sword!
« Reply #57 on: October 10, 2010, 06:35 AM »
Phew, in your vid i thought you were going to cut the handle off the unit door  [embarassed]

Nice looking saw though,

Woodguy.
If its made of wood, i can make it smaller.
Shirt size medium
p.s- ive started reading these too

Offline jmbfestool

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Re: The Mighty Sword!
« Reply #58 on: October 10, 2010, 05:52 PM »
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I c where you got the info from now!  Ill most likely have a new bar monday!

You may want to hold off a bit on that one...
The Protool bar is designed to be run in reverse direction, so it´s oil holes are on the opposite side of the blade. As it seems, a standard 91 blade won´t fit, unless you want to run your chain without lubrication.
The fact that there´s an oil hole at the right side facing you means that the blade is reversible BTW, and you should definitely do that - prserves the bar AND the chain.
1,6 kW input power transforms in less then 2 Hp output, so you probably don't even want a longer blade, although 30cm might work out.
My 2Hp tophandle chainsaw swings that exact same chain around on a 30cm blade, but i sure wouldn't want to bury anything close to it's full length in wood while cutting.
As a contrast: My Stihl MS660 felling saw definitely needs its 7+ Hp to swing around a 63cm blade in denser woods... although a 75 cm blade would do in softwoods.

What I WOULD do in your case is get an extra chain for ripping cuts, the 91R type will do fine. It will save you the hassle of regrinding a standard chain to a low angle. Mind you these chains are NOT low kickback chains, at least the 91R isn't. But I suppose that won't matter to much in this application on a guide rail...


Regards,

Job


Oh I agree! And yeha I knew you could turn the bar around.   The thing is I wasnt thinking of cutting hardwood with the Sword with the longer bar only softwood and Im sure it would cope with a longer bar going through softwood as if feels it has some power when its runnin and when I cut through the 4x4 I gave it a good push to see how quick it goes through and it didn't sound like it was struggling and it was set at 60 degrees.

Thanks for tips!


JMB
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Re: The Mighty Sword!
« Reply #59 on: July 26, 2012, 02:17 PM »
Well i used jmbs sword saw today, my conclusion is that he needs to buy a cross cutting chain and the the bar imho is a little short for what we used it for but dont think the saw could handle much more. Also using it to gang cut rafters it tilts the wrong way as it sits on the offcut whcich means your cut starts to twist as you go along. Fine piece of kit but dont think i could invest that amount of money into it the way it is fordoing what i want to do with it.