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Online Gregor

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Re: Starrett combo square clarification please.
« Reply #30 on: May 28, 2020, 05:35 AM »
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Online MikeGE

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Re: Starrett combo square clarification please.
« Reply #31 on: May 28, 2020, 06:19 AM »
Have you guys suggestions to where to buy Starret, in metric?
I can’t find a store that carry a wider range of metric Starret squares that ships internationally. Lee Valley does have a pretty good selection.
I bought my C434M-300 combination set from Amazon.de:

https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B000VDVSWA/

I bought the 14MA and 14MD from Dieter Schmid Fine Tools:

https://www.fine-tools.com/praezisionswinkel.html

Dieter Schmid also carries the C434M-300, as well as other metric Starrett tools, but I didn't find this store until I was looking for the 14MD.



Offline pixelated

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Re: Starrett combo square clarification please.
« Reply #32 on: May 28, 2020, 09:04 AM »
Have you guys suggestions to where to buy Starret, in metric?
I can’t find a store that carry a wider range of metric Starret squares that ships internationally. Lee Valley does have a pretty good selection.

Based on @Cheese's link above it looks like Starret sells directly, and the prices don't look to be that far off what I've seen from retailers. I'd presume you could order it from them or perhaps they'd point you to a local distributor. I contacted them via email a few years ago to get parts for an indicator, and found them to be very responsive and prompt with shipping. I'd try contacting them and see what they say.

Offline Rob Z

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Re: Starrett combo square clarification please.
« Reply #33 on: May 28, 2020, 01:05 PM »
Festita

If you can't find what you want on Amazon, you could try calling "Tools For Working Wood" in Brooklyn, NYC.  I ordered Starrett from them (as well as many other tools) and maybe they would include what you need in their next order from Starrett.

I see they have a 100 mm double square in stock.

Offline FestitaMakool

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Re: Starrett combo square clarification please.
« Reply #34 on: May 28, 2020, 01:37 PM »
Thanks a lot all!  [smile]

Now I have a few places to look into. (Me to just noticed that Starret has a web shop, it could be they would ship, as I really can’t find any distributor in my country)

I really like the pearl semi matte finish on the blade. Visibility really counts.
And that contractor combination square [scared].. oh, that was nice..
But, then again, not too much combination in one tool - the original is simple, effective, secure and fast to work with.
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Offline mike_aa

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Re: Starrett combo square clarification please.
« Reply #35 on: May 28, 2020, 01:46 PM »
I seem to remember reading somewhere that Starrett offed a repair or refurbishment service for their products, but I did not see any mention of it on the website.  I was curious to see if anyone knows whether this exists or not?  I do have a number of Starrett items inherited from both my father and father-in-law; most in good to excellent shape, but a few that might benefit from a little work.  I did see that they have nearly 1,400 spare parts listed on the website so that might be an option for fixing things like squares with worn or unreadable rules.

Thanks, Mike A.

Offline GoingMyWay

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« Reply #36 on: May 28, 2020, 01:54 PM »
I just did a quick Google search and found their Repair Services page on their site: https://www.starrett.com/repair-services.
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Offline Rob Z

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Re: Starrett combo square clarification please.
« Reply #37 on: May 28, 2020, 02:20 PM »
Festita, it just occurred to me that maybe you aren't in the US? I saw "NO" in your avatar and was thinking New Orleans, which is somewhat of a different place, as well LOL . [big grin]

If so, then maybe Tools For Working Wood isn't a good option for you. I don't know if they will ship out of the US?

Either way, good luck with the pursuit of Starrett tools.  They are expensive but man-oh-man are they nice to use.

Offline mike_aa

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« Reply #38 on: May 28, 2020, 03:00 PM »
I just did a quick Google search and found their Repair Services page on their site: https://www.starrett.com/repair-services.

@GoingMyWay  Thanks!  Since I was looking directly on their website and couldn't find anything, I never thought to google it!   [doh]

Has anyone here had any experience sending in an item?

Thanks, Mike A.

Offline GoingMyWay

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Re: Starrett combo square clarification please.
« Reply #39 on: May 28, 2020, 03:12 PM »
I tried searching using Starrett's website's search and I couldn't find that page either [huh].  Good thing Google knows everything!
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Offline FestitaMakool

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« Reply #40 on: May 28, 2020, 03:22 PM »
Festita, it just occurred to me that maybe you aren't in the US? I saw "NO" in your avatar and was thinking New Orleans, which is somewhat of a different place, as well LOL . [big grin]

If so, then maybe Tools For Working Wood isn't a good option for you. I don't know if they will ship out of the US?

Either way, good luck with the pursuit of Starrett tools.  They are expensive but man-oh-man are they nice to use.

Haha, would have been a lot closer then, but you’re right it’s not a US location it’s the international abbreviation of Norway or Kingdom of Norway.

Sometimes I find some users in here difficult to place myself... I’m not good at geography in the US either, but I know very well of Edgewater FL.. as that’s the place of the worlds best leisure boats are made  [wink].

Thanks, and you’re right, there are som things in life, which are a lifetime investment, and some tools are. A Starrett is a perfect candidate.
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Offline Cheese

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Re: Starrett combo square clarification please.
« Reply #41 on: May 28, 2020, 04:06 PM »
Here's a few screen shots from the Starrett catalog that may help decipher all of the Starret offerings for squares, square sets, blades and heads. They aren't real easy to read so I've included a link below to the .pdf of the Starrett catalog if you want to use that instead. Squares start on page 266.










And while we're talking about Starrett, here's a page where you can order some free printed literature. I find the Decimal Wall Charts and the Metric & Decimal Equivalent Cards to be the most useful. Just order what you want and the large wall chart will arrive in a mailing tube. It works nice in the shop because you can read it from a distance [big grin]

https://www.starrett.com/catalogs
« Last Edit: May 28, 2020, 04:12 PM by Cheese »

Offline hdv

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Re: Starrett combo square clarification please.
« Reply #42 on: May 28, 2020, 04:38 PM »
Hi FestitaMakool, is buying at starrett.co.uk or starrett.de not an option for you?

Offline FestitaMakool

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« Reply #43 on: May 28, 2020, 04:55 PM »
Hi FestitaMakool, is buying at starrett.co.uk or starrett.de not an option for you?

Yes it is, absolutely. But they are not only national distributors? Ie; sales to dealers only?
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Offline FestitaMakool

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« Reply #44 on: May 28, 2020, 05:01 PM »
That was very helpful Cheese, thanks!
(Although it is in fact a little diffuse textures in the image, making it just about readable for me over here, I guess it’s just all the saltwater it had to cross on its way [big grin])
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Offline hdv

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Re: Starrett combo square clarification please.
« Reply #45 on: May 29, 2020, 05:37 AM »
I am not sure about the UK site, but I ordered a small double square from the DE site quite a while back and they delivered just fine. Maybe they still do?

Offline FestitaMakool

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« Reply #46 on: May 29, 2020, 06:25 PM »
Thanks hdv!
I’ll certainly try the German or English site. There seems to be quite good availability on both.
Although it seems that the German site is a mirrored and lesser specs than the UK site.

- It’s easy to get confused by all the blade alternatives, and if one might want forged heads, you have to settle with one type of blade. It seems that the double squares makes it easy - inches or Millimeters and 100 and 150 mm blades (4 and 6”)

I think I’ll go for the shortest 100mm blade on the double square, and 300mm on the combination square. Any thoughts about the length?
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Offline RJNeal

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Re: Starrett combo square clarification please.
« Reply #47 on: May 29, 2020, 07:40 PM »
My 6” double showed up today and the 12” combination is out 40 days. Ouch !
I thanks guys for reminding me about the builders square. I fell in love with them 15 years ago when they were only $425 I think.
Rick
« Last Edit: May 29, 2020, 07:42 PM by RJNeal »
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Offline hdv

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Re: Starrett combo square clarification please.
« Reply #48 on: May 30, 2020, 01:53 AM »
That's exactly what I have: 100mm for the double square and 300mm for the combination square. In the past I did consider a longer ruler for the combination square, but in the end decided I didn't need it. In those cases where I need a longer reference edge I just use a "regular" Woodpeckers ruler or square.

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Re: Starrett combo square clarification please.
« Reply #49 on: May 31, 2020, 09:18 AM »
My 18" ruler just came in, and have already put it to use on some cabinet doors.  Up until now I have used the Incra 18" flexible ruler for repeat marking above 12" or occasionally a Woodpeckers 24" ruler with a rule stop, but the former can be a little unwieldy, especially if you don't have a continuous flat surface, and the latter doesn't allow you to mark all the way on the edge of a board, since the rule stop needs to register on both sides of the ruler, setting it a bit off the edge.

Now I just need to fabricate a tool holder to hang it.

 
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Offline FestitaMakool

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Re: Starrett combo square clarification please.
« Reply #50 on: May 31, 2020, 02:17 PM »
That's exactly what I have: 100mm for the double square and 300mm for the combination square. In the past I did consider a longer ruler for the combination square, but in the end decided I didn't need it. In those cases where I need a longer reference edge I just use a "regular" Woodpeckers ruler or square.

Thanks, that’s more or less my thoughts. The 4” can be a very versatile square, all my existing fails due to being too long. And with the 12” one can transfer with a ruler to extend.
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