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Offline FestitaMakool

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Re: Starrett combo square clarification please.
« Reply #60 on: October 16, 2020, 06:01 PM »
Well, I was kind of surprised myself to see that there were not even a hole for the pin.
I was just thinking when you wrote how and why they offer the student version.
(I’ve hear similar stories for other companies:) Sometimes cosmetically not perfect samples come off a production line that ends up in a “lesser” but cheaper versions of those who pass all inspections. Instead of write it off, It’s a valid choice to re-use and perfectly fine if it does it’s job as the product it was meant to be in the first place, only with lower grade finish.

The butt end of mine had a small bump in waist section. I’ve done an attempt to sand it flat and in square to the bottom - just in case I could use the small area to butt up against in a tight corner.

I’m sure all of these will serve me well, probably a lifetime if treated well. I’d be glad to pass them down to my sons, once they recognise and appreciate such a tool.
The center finder is something I’ve missed numerous times, a very welcome addition.

I was briefly thinking of a longer ruler with the 12”/300mm square, but would it be useful?
The heads base isn’t exactly long.. and I fear it will be a waste with a longer ruler.
Do you have experience with it?

I found that I can use the 6”/150mm ruler on the large head, but the 12”/300mm will not fit the small head. The 12”/300mm ruler is slightly thicker, and therefore doesn’t fit.
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Offline Cheese

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Re: Starrett combo square clarification please.
« Reply #61 on: October 17, 2020, 09:29 PM »
Well, I was kind of surprised myself to see that there were not even a hole for the pin.
I was just thinking when you wrote how and why they offer the student version.

I was briefly thinking of a longer ruler with the 12”/300mm square, but would it be useful?
The heads base isn’t exactly long.. and I fear it will be a waste with a longer ruler.
Do you have experience with it?


Well Festita, after looking at the photos of the rear end of your square something looked very unfamiliar. I didn't know what it was until I gathered my 3 squares and took a look.
Mine vs yours...






Besides not having the hole for the scriber, your square is also missing "the plug". "The plug" covers the hole where the glass vial for the level is inserted.  [eek]

So for this student version square, the scriber & the level have both been deleted in the interest of reducing costs. Like I mentioned previously, I'm now curious how the other "Student" tools have been gelded.






For your last question I have no experience at all.

I do however use both a 18" and a 24" scale with the 2 large square heads a lot of the time for marking cut lines and thus making sure that repetitive cut pieces are the same length.

Offline ear3

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Re: Starrett combo square clarification please.
« Reply #62 on: Yesterday at 10:51 AM »
Asking @Cheese or someone who has the 439 builders square -- does it use the same blades as the combination square?  Was trying to find clarification of this on the Starrett website, but couldn't find the info.

Alternatively, can the blades be purchased separately (I see that the head can be, so presumably the blades should as well)?  The 439-18 is selling for a much more reasonable price than the 24" version, so I wouldn't mind maybe to get the 18" version now and sometime in the future get the 24" blade.

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Offline Cheese

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Re: Starrett combo square clarification please.
« Reply #63 on: Yesterday at 11:23 AM »
Sorry Edward...I don't know much about the 439 except that I always wanted one. Then Woodpeckers came out with their 2616 aluminum square and that urge to spend $500 subsided.  [smile]

I do know the blade on the 439 is 1 1/2" wide as opposed to 1" on the standard square. I have also seen photos where someone mounted the standard square head to a 439 blade so blade thickness must not be an issue.

Offline ear3

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Re: Starrett combo square clarification please.
« Reply #64 on: Yesterday at 11:25 AM »
Oh, for some reason I assumed you must have one.  I see the spec difference now on blade width b/w the builders and combo square.  So the question now is just where and whether I can get a 24" blade for the 439.


Sorry Edward...I don't know much about the 439 except that I always wanted one. Then Woodpeckers came out with their 2616 aluminum square and that urge to spend $500 subsided.  [smile]

I do know the blade on the 439 is 1 1/2" wide as opposed to 1" on the standard square. I have also seen photos where someone mounted the standard square head to a 439 blade so blade thickness must not be an issue.
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Offline Cheese

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Re: Starrett combo square clarification please.
« Reply #65 on: Yesterday at 12:42 PM »
Edward, I just checked my Starrett catalog and even in that they do not separately list blades for the 439. I'm sure they're available you'll just have to give them a call.  [smile]

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Offline ear3

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Re: Starrett combo square clarification please.
« Reply #66 on: Yesterday at 01:38 PM »
Hmmm, odd.  I'll reach out to the company then.  Thx for checking!

Edward, I just checked my Starrett catalog and even in that they do not separately list blades for the 439. I'm sure they're available you'll just have to give them a call.  [smile]

Athol MA
978-249-3551
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