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Offline Bertotti

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Re: Shaper origin Z axis truly 2d
« Reply #30 on: September 03, 2021, 07:42 AM »
An application question. If you had something to route in the side of an existing cabinet hanging on a wall would that be possible? I have watched a bunch of vids but they are always on the workbench or capable of scanning the whole area including the corners. But hanging on a wall you may only be able to scan 2 or three corners. Would that be an issue?
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Offline HowardH

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Re: Shaper origin Z axis truly 2d
« Reply #31 on: September 03, 2021, 10:21 AM »
I suppose it would be possible by placing tape on the vertical surface.  The machine doesn't know or care about it's orientation.  Sounds like you are referring to using grid lines. If that's the case, you only need one corner to establish the grid.  You can measure in from there to establish a starting point. Scanning the entire workpiece is great when you can do it as you will be able to visually place the file instead of using measurements.  However, it's a pretty heavy machine and I think it would be almost impossible to safely carry out such an operation. Not to mention being able to stay within the boundaries without fighting gravity.   
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Offline WastedP

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Re: Shaper origin Z axis truly 2d
« Reply #32 on: September 03, 2021, 03:15 PM »
Not to mention that the SO's large baseplate would keep you several inches away from any walls.

Offline Bertotti

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Re: Shaper origin Z axis truly 2d
« Reply #33 on: September 18, 2021, 06:54 PM »
Well, I went in to buy one today and the guy asked me to come back Monday because they weren't sure how to bill it out under the current incentive. So I'll go back Monday. That was a bit disappointing but it will soon be mine. Thanks, everyone for helping me make this decision.
I want to populate SD with trees because I miss the forests of the river bottoms.

Offline Bertotti

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Re: Shaper origin Z axis truly 2d
« Reply #34 on: September 19, 2021, 09:56 AM »
I am curious if anyone uses a vacuum table to hold their pieces in place? I do not have one but wondered about it, rather than using tape all the time. Probably a seriously bad idea but I have never used a vacuum table so I have no idea.

Do you have a preferred double-sided tape? Thanks!
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Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: Shaper origin Z axis truly 2d
« Reply #35 on: September 19, 2021, 11:41 AM »
Vacuum will work as long as the workpiece is larger than the vacuum area and you won't be perforating the workpiece.

I prefer to capture the workpiece from the sides with blue tape, using double stick as a last resort.

If three sides are taped well (tape folded into the intersection of the work and support surface) so that the tape has to be sheared lengthwise to fail, it holds the workpiece very well laterally. It is possible to lift the workpiece taped this way but the router is usually holding it down.

I fold a tab on one end of the tape strip so it's easy to remove. Getting double stick tape separated from the liner and off the work is what makes me try to avoid using it.

The double stick tape the Shaper people use is Intertape 591.

Offline rmhinden

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Re: Shaper origin Z axis truly 2d
« Reply #36 on: September 19, 2021, 11:53 AM »
I use this Intertape 591 Premium Double Sided Golf Grip Tape from Amazon.  I think it's the same as what Shaper tools sells.

Offline cider

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Re: Shaper origin Z axis truly 2d
« Reply #37 on: September 19, 2021, 09:31 PM »
I've been using blue tape and superglue to hold things lately.  Works well enough for me.

Offline Bertotti

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Re: Shaper origin Z axis truly 2d
« Reply #38 on: September 20, 2021, 01:03 PM »
Thanks! I have had all weekend to go through the tutorials and help on the shaper website. I see they recommend that tape as well. Sadly I can't find it here. I'll have to order some online and hopefully figure out if one of the alternatives here is a suitable local replacement.
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Offline jarbroen

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Re: Shaper origin Z axis truly 2d
« Reply #39 on: September 24, 2021, 12:02 PM »
Infinity Tools also has a really good double sided tape.  Not sure if it's the same brand that Shaper Tools sells, but it's a Made in the USA tape.

I've used both the narrow and the wide tape from Infinity on numerous projects.  It has crazy holding power (if you remember to apply pressure to the workpiece) and it removes easily without residue left behind.

They also have a ton of good bits to look at for using with the Shaper Origin(or any other router you might have).  If you're ordering tape, might as well get some bits and make it over the free shipping threshold.

Offline Bertotti

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Re: Shaper origin Z axis truly 2d
« Reply #40 on: September 24, 2021, 03:04 PM »
Thanks!
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