Author Topic: Rare Oliver 88DY tablesaw (Read 2184 times)

WarnerConstCo. · « **on:** April 02, 2021, 09:42 AM »

This came out of a crating department at a missile silo. Fancy crates I guess.

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rst · « **Reply #1 on:** April 02, 2021, 10:25 AM »

What a monster that is

Tom Gensmer · « **Reply #2 on:** April 02, 2021, 11:24 AM »

I love the t-track grid in the slider, I'm sure there are some really creative jigs that could be produced to take advantage. Very cool machine, thanks for sharing!

JeremyH. · « **Reply #3 on:** April 02, 2021, 12:31 PM »

Looks amazing!

Imemiter · « **Reply #4 on:** April 02, 2021, 01:08 PM »

Boards just give up out of intimidation.

Michael Kellough · « **Reply #5 on:** April 02, 2021, 01:37 PM »

A battleship with attached aircraft carrier.

What is the blade diameter, and how wide are those miter gauges?

WarnerConstCo. · « **Reply #6 on:** April 02, 2021, 05:17 PM »

Quote from: Tom Gensmer on April 02, 2021, 11:24 AM

I love the t-track grid in the slider, I'm sure there are some really creative jigs that could be produced to take advantage. Very cool machine, thanks for sharing!

It was designed and built for the pattern industry, it originally came with a ground angle iron cross cut fence with stops. I think I can come up with something pretty sweet by incorporating the original mount holes and the t slots.

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WarnerConstCo. · « **Reply #7 on:** April 02, 2021, 05:18 PM »

Quote from: Michael Kellough on April 02, 2021, 01:37 PM

A battleship with attached aircraft carrier.

What is the blade diameter, and how wide are those miter gauges?

Hold an 18" blade.

I think those miters are 12" across the face.

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WarnerConstCo. · « **Reply #8 on:** April 02, 2021, 05:20 PM »

Table cranks out to allow for massive dado stacks.

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Banana · « **Reply #9 on:** April 02, 2021, 06:21 PM »

Didn't know about this brand (thought they just used a mule and a plow to cut wood back then). I hope you'll post more photos as you get it up and running.

Searched u-tube and was really surprised at how the entire motor carriage moves (on this model) when adjusting bevel.

WarnerConstCo. · « **Reply #10 on:** April 02, 2021, 06:31 PM »

Quote from: Banana on April 02, 2021, 06:21 PM

Didn't know about this brand (thought they just used a mule and a plow to cut wood back then). I hope you'll post more photos as you get it up and running.

Searched u-tube and was really surprised at how the entire motor carriage moves (on this model) when adjusting bevel.

The 88s only have a large single front trunion.

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Dogberryjr · « **Reply #11 on:** April 02, 2021, 06:40 PM »

Did they also make a full size version?

WarnerConstCo. · « **Reply #12 on:** April 02, 2021, 07:16 PM »

Quote from: Dogberryjr on April 02, 2021, 06:40 PM

Did they also make a full size version?

There was actually one with a larger sliding table.

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Dogberryjr · « **Reply #13 on:** April 02, 2021, 07:32 PM »

Quote from: WarnerConstCo. on April 02, 2021, 07:16 PM

Quote from: Dogberryjr on April 02, 2021, 06:40 PM
Did they also make a full size version?
There was actually one with a larger sliding table.

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Ha!

That'll teach me.

DeformedTree · « **Reply #14 on:** April 02, 2021, 08:25 PM »

Have to put extra footings in the shop floor to support the saw.

So much Iron!

WarnerConstCo. · « **Reply #15 on:** April 02, 2021, 10:09 PM »

Quote from: DeformedTree on April 02, 2021, 08:25 PM

Have to put extra footings in the shop floor to support the saw.

So much Iron!

3k pounds.

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Cheese · « **Reply #16 on:** April 02, 2021, 10:20 PM »

Quote from: DeformedTree on April 02, 2021, 08:25 PM

Have to put extra footings in the shop floor to support the saw.

So much Iron!

You're not off at all on that one...

I worked for 3M for 8 years and when we needed to install a new lathe to machine the 10' or longer rolls that produced everything from ribbon to tape, they excavated 30' deep holes to lay footings on the bedrock for the lathes that would not transmit the vibrations from the freight trains that were passing next to the plant. Name me a successful manufacturing concern that doesn't have a rail head next to their production facility.

WarnerConstCo. · « **Reply #17 on:** April 02, 2021, 10:25 PM »

Quote from: Cheese on April 02, 2021, 10:20 PM

Quote from: DeformedTree on April 02, 2021, 08:25 PM
Have to put extra footings in the shop floor to support the saw.

So much Iron!

You're not off at all on that one... I worked for 3M for 8 years and when we needed to install a new lathe to machine the 10' or longer rolls that produced everything from ribbon to tape, they excavated 30' deep holes to lay footings on the bedrock for the lathes that would not transmit the vibrations from the freight trains that were passing next to the plant. Name me a successful manufacturing concern that doesn't have a rail head next to their production facility.

I love watching time lapse videos of foundations being excavated in the middle of a building for new foundations for machinery. Sometimes a years worth of work just to start setting the machine.

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Cheese · « **Reply #18 on:** April 02, 2021, 10:37 PM »

Quote from: WarnerConstCo. on April 02, 2021, 10:25 PM

I love watching time lapse videos of foundations being excavated in the middle of a building for new foundations for machinery. Sometimes a years worth of work just to start setting the machine.

Ya it's pretty incredible the methods they have to implement to prevent the transmission of sound waves to the equipment. Who'd of thunk. If you're measuring your +/- in .010 increments then you're good. If you're measuring in the +/-.001 or less increments, then you'd be best to stack all the cards in your favor.

Otherwise you're on the bosses sh.. list.

DeformedTree · « **Reply #19 on:** April 02, 2021, 10:43 PM »

Yeah, fun to walk into old plants/shops and see all the cuts in the floor from every time they needed to put in a new footing under a machine, which then was replaced with something else.

Sometimes I think no one really knows what kind of base the machine needs, so they just decide 3-4 ft deep and a lot of rebar is the answer.

Cheese · « **Reply #20 on:** April 02, 2021, 10:49 PM »

And by the way Darcy, along with the neatness/coolness of the machine, the next thing I noticed is how well you brought the table top into pristine shape with whatever solution you used on it. Pretty slick.

I do have a question though, what is the machine in the distance with what appears to be 2 digital read-outs and has a number of vertical wheel operated hand adjusters?

WarnerConstCo. · « **Reply #21 on:** April 02, 2021, 10:55 PM »

Quote from: Cheese on April 02, 2021, 10:49 PM

And by the way Darcy, along with the neatness/coolness of the machine, the next thing I noticed is how well you brought the table top into pristine shape with whatever solution you used on it. Pretty slick.

I do have a question though, what is the machine in the distance with what appears to be 2 digital read-outs and has a number of vertical wheel operated hand adjusters?

Lots of scratch pads on my rotex.

I think you are talking about the one in the second picture. Those are just two Operator stations for that machine. It is a linear feed through profile sander. Sanding heads adjust up/down in/out and tilt. Can squeeze almost 12" wide out of it. Built in 1999, cost 100k new.

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Cheese · « **Reply #22 on:** April 02, 2021, 10:58 PM »

Quote from: DeformedTree on April 02, 2021, 10:43 PM

Sometimes I think no one really knows what kind of base the machine needs, so they just decide 3-4 ft deep and a lot of rebar is the answer.

Ya, but if you think about it that's pretty much the old boiler plate solution. Nothing wrong with that...sometimes you don't need to reinvent oxygen. But if you're 50' from bedrock when installing a machine tool, then maybe a little reinvention is warranted.

DeformedTree · « **Reply #23 on:** April 02, 2021, 11:14 PM »

Quote from: Cheese on April 02, 2021, 10:58 PM

Quote from: DeformedTree on April 02, 2021, 10:43 PM
Sometimes I think no one really knows what kind of base the machine needs, so they just decide 3-4 ft deep and a lot of rebar is the answer.

Ya, but if you think about it that's pretty much the old boiler plate solution. Nothing wrong with that...sometimes you don't need to reinvent oxygen. But if you're 50' from bedrock when installing a machine tool, then maybe a little reinvention is warranted.

Or your on bedrock and "the experts" decide you can't trust it since it doesn't have a material certificate, and it must be removed and replaced with concrete and rebar.

Cheese · « **Reply #24 on:** April 02, 2021, 11:14 PM »

Quote from: WarnerConstCo. on April 02, 2021, 10:55 PM

1, Lots of scratch pads on my rotex.

2. I think you are talking about the one in the second picture. Those are just two Operator stations for that machine. It is a linear feed through profile sander. Sanding heads adjust up/down in/out and tilt. Can squeeze almost 12" wide out of it. Built in 1999, cost 100k new.

1. Thanks for that...in 3M speak...that'd be Scotchbrite.

2. That's interesting...kind of makes the LS 130 look like a taco machine.

I gather that the equipment you're gathering is still focused on producing your original idea of reproducing difficult to achieve architectural focal points/design details.

WarnerConstCo. · « **Reply #25 on:** April 02, 2021, 11:22 PM »

Quote from: Cheese on April 02, 2021, 11:14 PM

Quote from: WarnerConstCo. on April 02, 2021, 10:55 PM
1, Lots of scratch pads on my rotex.

2. I think you are talking about the one in the second picture. Those are just two Operator stations for that machine. It is a linear feed through profile sander. Sanding heads adjust up/down in/out and tilt. Can squeeze almost 12" wide out of it. Built in 1999, cost 100k new.

1. Thanks for that...in 3M speak...that'd be Scotchbrite.

2. That's interesting...kind of makes the LS 130 look like a taco machine. I gather that the equipment you're gathering is still focused on producing your original idea of reproducing difficult to achieve architectural focal points/design details.

Honestly, I don't know what I'm doing anymore.

everything is there to set up a production shop along with specialty millwork an architectural millwork, my smaller stuff is basically set up (cut off saws, tablesaws, jointers, planer, bandsaws, pattern mills, sanders (disc, edge, stroke, widebelt, etc.) Tenoners, mortisers, etc.) Also have a decent machine shop set up, adding a slotter and maybe a 33k pound Cincinnati Gilbert HBM. I have ended up in a real small niche doing better than new rebuilds though, plus a ton of forklift repairs, industrial maintenance/repair, I'm busy, I'm expensive, I can't keep up.

So yeah, only thing I'm missing is the time to finish wiring and the DC.

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DeformedTree · « **Reply #26 on:** April 02, 2021, 11:31 PM »

Quote from: Cheese on April 02, 2021, 10:49 PM

I do have a question though, what is the machine in the distance with what appears to be 2 digital read-outs and has a number of vertical wheel operated hand adjusters?

Nothing to see there, must be swamp gas and Venus. Warner Construction only has tools up to the Nixie tube age. Electricity is only to be used for motors and resistive devices.

At some point you know we will find out he has some circa 1900 power engine running dynamos outback to power the shop

Cheese · « **Reply #27 on:** April 02, 2021, 11:35 PM »

Quote from: DeformedTree on April 02, 2021, 11:31 PM

At some point you know we will find out he has some circa 1900 power engine running dynamos outback to power the shop

Well did you ever look at his truck...certainly circa 1900.

Cheese · « **Reply #28 on:** April 03, 2021, 12:02 AM »

Quote from: WarnerConstCo. on April 02, 2021, 11:22 PM

I have ended up in a real small niche doing better than new rebuilds though, plus a ton of forklift repairs, industrial maintenance/repair, I'm busy, I'm expensive, I can't keep up.

So yeah, only thing I'm missing is the time to finish wiring and the DC.

Nothing wrong with working a real small niche, your billables underline that point. Just keep doing what you're doing as long as you're happy...nothing else matters.

I do enjoy your machinery purchases, nothing I need but everything that I'm interested in.

I also noted you favor machines that produce models...kind of like the current version of 3D printing, but at a much more serious level. In today's world, printing plastic is one thing, machining actual models in real materials is another and a world away.

I don't have a problem with 3D printing and firmly embraced it when they first came to market for use in Enginering rapid prototyping, but it's a long way away from a firm commitment compared to when you machine stuff from steel & wood.