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Offline Sourwould

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Opinions on Metabo Battery Tools?
« on: June 22, 2022, 08:45 PM »
Lately I've been eyeballing the Mafell KSS 40, which uses/can use Metabo batteries. This has also kind of had me looking at Metabo drills. Looking for opinions on the Metabo battery platform, if anyone is on it. I don't have a lot of battery tools and don't plan to add any more. Typically I'll just run a drill or two, an impact and a skilsaw. I'm currently using Makita battery tools.
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Offline Lincoln

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Re: Opinions on Metabo Battery Tools?
« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2022, 08:58 PM »
Mixed bag - their drills and grinders are great, saws are average. Their older, brushed, impact driver was 'ok', but I believe their latest brushless model is very good.
The batteries are fantastic - I run a number of Mafell tools, on a mix of Mafell and Metabo batteries.
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Offline Sourwould

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Re: Opinions on Metabo Battery Tools?
« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2022, 09:10 PM »
Quote from: Lincoln on June 22, 2022, 08:58 PM
Mixed bag - their drills and grinders are great, saws are average. Their older, brushed, impact driver was 'ok', but I believe their latest brushless model is very good.
The batteries are fantastic - I run a number of Mafell tools, on a mix of Mafell and Metabo batteries.

The skilsaws look pretty chintzy. Lots of plastic.

Do you have a kss 40?
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Offline Lincoln

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Re: Opinions on Metabo Battery Tools?
« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2022, 09:18 PM »
Yes, I have three of their cordless saws. Great tools.
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Offline Sourwould

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Re: Opinions on Metabo Battery Tools?
« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2022, 09:23 PM »
Curious if you've run it with the smaller batteries and if it performed well. Those huge batteries look really rear heavy.
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Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: Opinions on Metabo Battery Tools?
« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2022, 09:24 PM »
I got into Metabo tools via Maffell cordless tools.

This Metabo 3 speed drill is made in Germany and it’s a beast! There is not a Makita drill like it but it’s also overkill for most purposes.

I actually use Metabo 12volt tools most frequently. They’re lightweight and comfortable to hold and “gosh-darn they’re good enough”. With the squarish battery on the bottom they stand up and out among a cluttered workbench. And they’re often found stupid cheap. And the 12v battery charges in the Maffell charger.
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Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: Opinions on Metabo Battery Tools?
« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2022, 09:29 PM »
Quote from: Sourwould on June 22, 2022, 09:23 PM
Curious if you've run it with the smaller batteries and if it performed well. Those huge batteries look really rear heavy.

Actually all the larger Metabo batteries weigh the about the same. 5.5, and 8 amp batteries weigh 980 grams. The 10 amp weighs an extra 30 grams.

https://www.metabo.com/us/enus/tools/battery-pack-systems/accessories-cordless-tools/battery-packs/lihd/
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Offline Sourwould

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Re: Opinions on Metabo Battery Tools?
« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2022, 09:36 PM »
Quote from: Michael Kellough on June 22, 2022, 09:24 PM
I got into Metabo tools via Maffell cordless tools.

This Metabo 3 speed drill is made in Germany and it’s a beast! There is not a Makita drill like it but it’s also overkill for most purposes.

I actually use Metabo 12volt tools most frequently. They’re lightweight and comfortable to hold and “gosh-darn they’re good enough”. With the squarish battery on the bottom they stand up and out among a cluttered workbench. And they’re often found stupid cheap. And the 12v battery charges in the Maffell charger.

I was looking at a 2 speed 18v drill with the quick change heads that looked a lot smaller/lighter, but its either been discontinued or was never available in the US. I can only find it for sale on euro websites.

I do carpentry work and 12v doesn't really cut it for me. I also can't stand a giant heavy drill when it will have a countersink in it half the time. I feel like a lot of companies focus on their compact shop drills and their big f**k all drills and the middle ground is a little sparse.

Quote from: Michael Kellough on June 22, 2022, 09:29 PM
Quote from: Sourwould on June 22, 2022, 09:23 PM
Curious if you've run it with the smaller batteries and if it performed well. Those huge batteries look really rear heavy.

Actually all the larger Metabo batteries weigh the about the same. 5.5, and 8 amp batteries weigh 980 grams. The 10 amp weighs an extra 30 grams.

https://www.metabo.com/us/enus/tools/battery-pack-systems/accessories-cordless-tools/battery-packs/lihd/

Sorry I was referring to the 4.0 ah.
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Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: Opinions on Metabo Battery Tools?
« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2022, 09:40 PM »
Look here.

The first one (if they’re listed by ascending price) is an interchangeable chuck drill and it’s only $90. In stock.
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Offline Sourwould

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Re: Opinions on Metabo Battery Tools?
« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2022, 09:56 PM »
This is what i was looking at. Has the electric clutch. Looks like they offer the same drill through your lunk, but with a fixed chuck.
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Offline dashboardpws

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Re: Opinions on Metabo Battery Tools?
« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2022, 10:10 PM »
We recently got the track saw for general shop use and to verify it works with our products. I think it's fantastic and I've used only Festool track saws since 2008. To me it seems like a more precise instrument and the linkages are more metal than plastic. It cuts very well and feels better balanced.
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Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: Opinions on Metabo Battery Tools?
« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2022, 12:52 AM »
Quote from: Sourwould on June 22, 2022, 09:56 PM
This is what i was looking at. Has the electric clutch. Looks like they offer the same drill through your lunk, but with a fixed chuck.

They are the same drill, it’s the various chucks that are hard to find.
Any Metabo chuck with a fat red band is removable.
Some have a thin red band that’s merely decorative.
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Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: Opinions on Metabo Battery Tools?
« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2022, 10:00 AM »
Quote from: Sourwould on June 22, 2022, 09:56 PM
This is what i was looking at. Has the electric clutch. Looks like they offer the same drill through your lunk, but with a fixed chuck.

You’re right, I missed the Q (Quick chuck) on the drill you show. I’ve only seen the Q chuck in the states on the high end 3 speed drill and the low end 2 speed. A mid range Q drill would be nice, especially if it is made in Germany.
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Offline rst

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Re: Opinions on Metabo Battery Tools?
« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2022, 03:42 PM »
I've had their cordless vac for a while now.  Also, have their flat head grinder, the tapper and just got their 18" fan which is fantastic.  The fan will run more than 4 hours on high with an 8 amp battery.
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Offline Sourwould

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Re: Opinions on Metabo Battery Tools?
« Reply #14 on: June 23, 2022, 05:49 PM »
Quote from: Michael Kellough on June 23, 2022, 10:00 AM
Quote from: Sourwould on June 22, 2022, 09:56 PM
This is what i was looking at. Has the electric clutch. Looks like they offer the same drill through your lunk, but with a fixed chuck.

You’re right, I missed the Q (Quick chuck) on the drill you show. I’ve only seen the Q chuck in the states on the high end 3 speed drill and the low end 2 speed. A mid range Q drill would be nice, especially if it is made in Germany.

I found it on the Metabo Germany website and on amazon.de. Maybe it's not available in the states yet. ~$250 delivered for the bare tool and the metabostainer. Acme tools lists the non quick drill as made in Germany, so I would assume the quick one is as well. Acme lists COO on everything.

Quote from: rst on June 23, 2022, 03:42 PM
I've had their cordless vac for a while now.  Also, have their flat head grinder, the tapper and just got their 18" fan which is fantastic.  The fan will run more than 4 hours on high with an 8 amp battery.

Do you like the vacuum? I was considering selling my CT midi and getting the corded Metabo autoclean vac.

God that fan sounds nice. It was 100 in the shade yesterday.
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Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: Opinions on Metabo Battery Tools?
« Reply #15 on: June 23, 2022, 08:31 PM »
The info on Metabo stuff at Acme is screwed up. I’d stick with Ohio Power Tool.
Both sites are awkward to search for Metabo. At both go to the brand list and select Metabo.

The AV 18 fan is 18 volts. The blade is 14” diameter.
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Offline mrB

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Re: Opinions on Metabo Battery Tools?
« Reply #16 on: June 24, 2022, 09:53 AM »
Quote from: dashboardpws on June 22, 2022, 10:10 PM
We recently got the track saw for general shop use and to verify it works with our products. I think it's fantastic and I've used only Festool track saws since 2008. To me it seems like a more precise instrument and the linkages are more metal than plastic. It cuts very well and feels better balanced.

Well this is pleasing to hear. Metabo have been impressing me lately.

I've been using their tracks for a couple of years now over the festool, with my TS & HKC saws. I prefer them for several reasons.
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