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Offline Mario Turcot

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Re: Nova Voyager - Aftermarket table
« Reply #30 on: October 29, 2018, 01:48 PM »
Doh! Tracktubesguy, you just make me realized that the DP3 can be reversed  [big grin]

After crushing all the numbers I came with a first draft. Let me know what you think and if you see any flaw.



This is the lower layer only, showing where the WP tracks will sit. The dark grey parts are column and actual drill press table. The light grey are bumpers under the table to ease installation and make sure it's always at the same position. The column collar (that's how I named it) have a shape to allow the table to tilt easily. The black parts are where the WP tracks will be. I still have to find out the center of the chuck based on the column (What is called the depth I guess).
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Offline rvieceli

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Re: Nova Voyager - Aftermarket table
« Reply #31 on: October 29, 2018, 03:01 PM »
@Mario Turcot

There's not a particularly compelling reason the have the add on table extend any farther that the column in the rear. You won't really gain anything and it complicates the construction a bit.

In addition you might as well extend the t track all the way to the front edge. Makes it easier to insert things.

If it were me, I'd take bar stock that would fit through the slot in the factory table, drill and tap it for maybe 1/4-20 or the metric equivalent. Cut it to a length that when rotated at 90 degrees to the slot would hold securely. I would then drill and countersink the holes in the add on top to keep the screw heads below the surface. You would align the tapped bars so they dropped through the factory table slots to below the factory table and then rotate them 90 to the slot and tighten the screws.

You'd need to decide if you needed just two of those or maybe one in the front also.

Ron

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Re: Nova Voyager - Aftermarket table
« Reply #32 on: October 29, 2018, 03:57 PM »
Depending on what sort of fence mounts are being used having the table extend back past the column can gain a couple inches of usable space.  My t- track fence  mounts are behind the fence. The table extends back. The mount can be in the track space beyond the column gaining space in the drilling area in front of the fence.

 


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Re: Nova Voyager - Aftermarket table
« Reply #33 on: October 29, 2018, 04:20 PM »
I used a socket  with extension and flex head ratchet (extra stuff I had) in place of the crank on this Delta. It works very well. Plenty of leverage, easy to reach with out contortions,  and works around any other objects that might be in the way.

Seth

Just thinking, we all have at least 1 old cordless drill that refuses to die and it's battery still charges to full capacity, yet when we reach for a drill we always grab the newer models. [sad]

Why not replace that ratchet handle with the old cordless drill and then just pull the trigger?  [big grin] 

I'm going to try that on my Delta...got an old Milwaukee cordless just hanging out in the shop.

Offline Dick Mahany

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Re: Nova Voyager - Aftermarket table
« Reply #34 on: October 29, 2018, 05:17 PM »
I made a home brew drill press table from 1" MDF and Formica laminate.  I dedicated an inexpensive ratchet for the column lock and extended the crank handle.  While it works great for my needs, there are a few things sub optimal.  One is that to tilt the table, I have to loosen a set screw on the coupling nut for the crank handle extension.  The other is that I wish I had made the crank handle quickly removable as it always seems to snag on other tools when I wheel my drill press into storage position.

Edit:  Note the position of the square sacrificial insert.  It is purposely offset to drill in one quadrant of the insert.  This gives me 4x positions on two sides before I need to replace the insert.





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Re: Nova Voyager - Aftermarket table
« Reply #35 on: October 29, 2018, 06:09 PM »
I made a home brew drill press table from 1" MDF and Formica laminate.  I dedicated an inexpensive ratchet for the column lock and extended the crank handle.  While it works great for my needs, there are a few things sub optimal.  One is that to tilt the table, I have to loosen a set screw on the coupling nut for the crank handle extension.  The other is that I wish I had made the crank handle quickly removable as it always seems to snag on other tools when I wheel my drill press into storage position.



  Cool extension!  If you take out the front set screw you can go with a socket and extensions in place of the threaded rod. And  maybe a universal would take care of the tilt problem?

Seth

Offline Caboose1966

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Re: Nova Voyager - Aftermarket table
« Reply #36 on: October 29, 2018, 06:17 PM »
See why I don't mind "hijacking".... I LOVE all these ideas and pictures!  I have the Woodpeckers fence and the fence on it's way, but now I want to make my own custom fence, too.  I also have a 6" handwheel coming for the table elevation crank, but I'm liking these extensions and ratchets and all the other cool ideas.  Necessity is the mother of invention, right.

Hijack away!!   ;)

Dean

Offline Dick Mahany

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Re: Nova Voyager - Aftermarket table
« Reply #37 on: October 29, 2018, 07:56 PM »

  Cool extension!  If you take out the front set screw you can go with a socket and extensions in place of the threaded rod. And  maybe a universal would take care of the tilt problem?

Seth

Great suggestion...........I see a trip to Harbor Freight for some cheap 3/8" extensions in my future  [big grin]

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Re: Nova Voyager - Aftermarket table
« Reply #38 on: October 29, 2018, 10:15 PM »

  Cool extension!  If you take out the front set screw you can go with a socket and extensions in place of the threaded rod. And  maybe a universal would take care of the tilt problem?

Seth

Great suggestion...........I see a trip to Harbor Freight for some cheap 3/8" extensions in my future  [big grin]


Not sure how well it will crank with the universal while tilted and I think you will need to allow extra length in the extension so that it can slide in the support  when tilting.

Seth

Offline Mario Turcot

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Re: Nova Voyager - Aftermarket table
« Reply #39 on: October 30, 2018, 07:27 AM »
@rvieceli Ron, thank you for your comments on my first draft.
There's not a particularly compelling reason the have the add on table extend any farther that the column in the rear. You won't really gain anything and it complicates the construction a bit.

In addition you might as well extend the t track all the way to the front edge. Makes it easier to insert things.

If it were me, I'd take bar stock that would fit through the slot in the factory table, drill and tap it for maybe 1/4-20 or the metric equivalent. Cut it to a length that when rotated at 90 degrees to the slot would hold securely. I would then drill and countersink the holes in the add on top to keep the screw heads below the surface. You would align the tapped bars so they dropped through the factory table slots to below the factory table and then rotate them 90 to the slot and tighten the screws.

You'd need to decide if you needed just two of those or maybe one in the front also.

Ron

Ron, I agree with you that it might not help it and that make the design more complicated. I do like some challenge  [big grin].

I am a too visual person to picture where you talk about drill & countersink the holes [sad]. My goal right now is to get to a design that will give me the larger working surface possible w/o getting out of wack. For example, if I end up extending the table in the back, there will be a notch for the handle or the handle will be mounted under the table like Dick one with a double universal joints. I like the hand wheel suggestion, looks very nice I.M.O.

Extending the tracks? Well that first draft is based on the length of the WP tracks 15 3/4". I was planning to add a key hole (T-Bolt size) in the front of each slot to help sliding in clamps.

Having a front track? Another very good suggestion. I might add one on the next version. Of course that track would go all the way  [wink]

I am still at the design phase and love all the idead & pictures you guys bring in. Thank you  [smile]
Mario

Offline derekcohen

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Re: Nova Voyager - Aftermarket table
« Reply #40 on: December 01, 2019, 11:50 AM »
I purchased a Voyager yesterday tempted by Black Friday. There was a decent discount, along with a free Nova fence for the table. I have not seen any mention of the fence on the forum, and so am not sure whether there are any views of it ...







I've only just finished putting it all together, and not even plugged it in, so not much to offer about the drill. The fence has potential, but will need tweaking - I do not like the lever-clamp at the rear. It feels notchy.

Interestingly, all the pictures of the bare table - both the manufacturers and in forums - show the table reversed. Even the woodwork store from whom I purchased the Voyager had their demo with the table reversed .... it was not possible to use the fence the way these are set up.

Regards from Perth

Derek



Offline Mario Turcot

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Re: Nova Voyager - Aftermarket table
« Reply #41 on: December 01, 2019, 12:12 PM »
I purchased a Voyager yesterday tempted by Black Friday. There was a decent discount, along with a free Nova fence for the table. I have not seen any mention of the fence on the forum, and so am not sure whether there are any views of it ...

 [thumbs up] Congrats on your new toy.

The press drill is simply awesome. Quiet and very easy to use. The first thing you might want to learn is to set the zero depth on any and every piece of wood you want to bore.

My sister made me a hood to protect from dust. The motor vent is on the top


1) Power up the Voyager, depth will be at zero by default.

2) Install drill bit and put your stock under it

3) Pull down the quill until the bit hit the stock and press the Zero Confirm button


As you can see the table is mounted reversed. I find out easier to clamp stock since I don't have that fence. Another thing you might want to change is the chuck. I put a keyless chuck and never regret is  [big grin]

I don't plan to get the fence despite it is a well constructed fence. I'm in the planning of making a larger wood table with a low/high profile fence similar to


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Offline derekcohen

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Re: Nova Voyager - Aftermarket table
« Reply #42 on: December 01, 2019, 12:40 PM »
Thanks Mario.

I already have a keyless chuck - I used in on my previous drill press, and it slotted straight into the Voyager.

Regards from Perth

Derek

Offline Bob D.

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Re: Nova Voyager - Aftermarket table
« Reply #43 on: December 01, 2019, 01:15 PM »
"My sister made me a hood to protect from dust."

That's really nice Mario, your sister did a great job, even adding a window.

Would look great with Nova screen printed on the front.
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Offline Mario Turcot

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Re: Nova Voyager - Aftermarket table
« Reply #44 on: December 01, 2019, 04:15 PM »
"My sister made me a hood to protect from dust."

That's really nice Mario, your sister did a great job, even adding a window.

Would look great with Nova screen printed on the front.

Indeed she's awesome. She also made one for the iMac and the bandsaw
Proof   [wink]
Mario

Offline thudchkr

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Re: Nova Voyager - Aftermarket table
« Reply #45 on: December 01, 2019, 06:03 PM »
I purchased a Voyager yesterday tempted by Black Friday. There was a decent discount, along with a free Nova fence for the table. I have not seen any mention of the fence on the forum, and so am not sure whether there are any views of it

I've only just finished putting it all together, and not even plugged it in, so not much to offer about the drill. The fence has potential, but will need tweaking - I do not like the lever-clamp at the rear. It feels notchy.

Interestingly, all the pictures of the bare table - both the manufacturers and in forums - show the table reversed. Even the woodwork store from whom I purchased the Voyager had their demo with the table reversed .... it was not possible to use the fence the way these are set up.

Regards from Perth

Derek

I purchased the fence when I bought my Voyager.  I found it difficult to use because the table slots, where the fence mounted to the table, varied in depth.  The variance meant I couldn’t just loosen the lever through the approximately 180 degrees of travel the locking levers have as they’re mounted behind the fence. You’d have to reposition the spring loaded levers to a new position and re-loosen them, (or the opposite for tightening), before you could slide the fence to its desired position. I was considering contacting Nova about the issue and considered taking to a machine shop to have the slot milled to a consistent thickness.

Ultimately, I just quit using it when I built my own table with the Woodpecker drill press fence hardware.

Now the fence just sits on a shelf. Anybody out there with a Voyager drill press want a great deal on the Voyager fence?  If so, PM me and maybe we can make a deal.
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