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Offline Michael Kellough

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Nova Viking DVR 16” bench drill press
« on: November 24, 2019, 04:52 PM »
New to me and have not seen it mentioned here.

Nova Viking drill press official

$1000 at Acme.

Interesting (different) features compared to the Voyager, the motor is not integrated into the head so it can be much more easily serviced/replaced, and this machine has laser sight lines built-in.

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Offline Jiggy Joiner

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Re: Nova Viking DVR 16” bench drill press
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2019, 11:12 AM »
Nice machine, especially if space is limited, I love my Voyager but, I think this will be well received and sell really well  [thumbs up]

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Re: Nova Viking DVR 16” bench drill press
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2019, 09:21 AM »
I didn’t know this existed either. I’ve been looking at drill presses, but was looking at floor standing models since I would need to build a cart to place a bench top model on both taking up about the same floor space. Looked at the Voyager, but it’s more than I want to spend, but this has me thinking of getting this benchtop version and building a cart.


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Offline Jim Kirkpatrick

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Re: Nova Viking DVR 16” bench drill press
« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2019, 10:27 AM »
That is really cool.   I bought a Delta floor model in 1991.  To this day I'm not sure why I needed a floor model other than it looks dope in the shop.  This is a nice size, and certainly the price is more enticing than the floor model (that never goes on sale).  Thanks for pointing this out, Mike.

Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: Nova Viking DVR 16” bench drill press
« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2019, 07:29 PM »
@Jim Kirkpatrick. The Voyager is $1550 ($150 off) at Acme.

Offline Bob D.

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Re: Nova Viking DVR 16” bench drill press
« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2019, 08:27 PM »
Woodcraft has the same price. I suspect it's a manufacturers promotion.
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Re: Nova Viking DVR 16” bench drill press
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2019, 06:11 PM »
FWIW - I just used the Acme Tools' Cyber Monday promo (15% Off Max $100) to buy a Nova Viking.

Free shipping but I did pay Texas sales tax.

The promo does not work with the Nova Voyager.

NOVA-83700 Viking 16" DVR Bench Drill Press
Ships Truck
Qty 1
$999.99 product discount for Acme Tools CYBER15 Promotion ($100.00)
Order Subtotal:   $999.99
Acme Tools CYBER15 Promotion:   -$100.00
Tax:   $60.75
Shipping:   Free
Handling:   $0.00
Order Total:   $960.74

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Re: Nova Viking DVR 16” bench drill press
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2019, 06:20 PM »
Good deal!  I didn’t think there would be a sale on this drillpress, or a coupon that would apply, I ordered Saturday from Amazon coming from CPO and it’s being delivered tomorrow. Went with Amazon with 5% back from the Amazon card.

Gonna need to figure out a temporary mounting solution as I planned on a floor drillpress, so now I need to build a cabinet.


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Re: Nova Viking DVR 16” bench drill press
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2019, 11:13 PM »
it is a nice system. I am going to order the Vulcan. great system.

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Re: Nova Viking DVR 16” bench drill press
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2019, 11:39 PM »
Good deal!  I didn’t think there would be a sale on this drillpress, or a coupon that would apply, I ordered Saturday from Amazon coming from CPO and it’s being delivered tomorrow. Went with Amazon with 5% back from the Amazon card.

Gonna need to figure out a temporary mounting solution as I planned on a floor drillpress, so now I need to build a cabinet.


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I currently have a Delta 12" bench top drill press mounted to a shop built cart that houses a Delta mortiser underneath.

I had contemplated the Voyager since it was released but didn't really have room for it.

The Viking will be a significant upgrade in the same footprint.

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Re: Nova Viking DVR 16” bench drill press
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2019, 09:15 AM »
it is a nice system. I am going to order the Vulcan. great system.

I'm with you...the Vulcan is going to be my next drill press also. [big grin] 

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Re: Nova Viking DVR 16” bench drill press
« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2019, 08:04 AM »
Good deal!  I didn’t think there would be a sale on this drillpress, or a coupon that would apply, I ordered Saturday from Amazon coming from CPO and it’s being delivered tomorrow. Went with Amazon with 5% back from the Amazon card.

Gonna need to figure out a temporary mounting solution as I planned on a floor drillpress, so now I need to build a cabinet.


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I currently have a Delta 12" bench top drill press mounted to a shop built cart that houses a Delta mortiser underneath.

I had contemplated the Voyager since it was released but didn't really have room for it.

The Viking will be a significant upgrade in the same footprint.

Joe

Got mine delivered yesterday. The motor housing cover was dented and paint cracked. Other than that seems to be in good shape. Will look into getting the cover replaced.

This thing is pretty beefy for a benchtop press. The specs say 154lbs, but UPS shipping says 113lbs. I need to figure out a stand design to support this. I just ordered 8020 material for my MFT-style work bench I’m making and ordered extra material so I will probably use this.

Can you post up a picture of yours when you get it setup in your cart?


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Re: Nova Viking DVR 16” bench drill press
« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2019, 06:18 PM »
New to me and have not seen it mentioned here.

Nova Viking drill press official

$1000 at Acme.

Interesting (different) features compared to the Voyager, the motor is not integrated into the head so it can be much more easily serviced/replaced, and this machine has laser sight lines built-in.

Michael, just got my Viking delivered a couple days ago, thanks for this thread. I am looking at getting a keyless chuck and saw your post in a voyager thread about this keyless chuck you have.

https://www.zoro.com/llambrich-usa-drill-chuck-keyless-steel-0512-in-2mt-jk-13-mt-2/i/G2332206/

You mentioned an issue getting drillbits to clamp up properly and was curious if you figured this out and if you’d still recommend this chuck. Zoro has 20% off this week, so it’s a good deal. I know the recommended chuck is the Albrecht, but double this chucks price.

Thanks


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Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: Nova Viking DVR 16” bench drill presso
« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2019, 07:32 PM »
@08G8V8   I have to tilt over to not recommending the Llambrich. I ended up with two of the same model and had difficulty getting tooling to run true in either of them. Generally it’s not too far off to use a drill bit at first tightening but needed holes in aluminum to be exactly positioned and then then tap the holes so the bit and tap had to be true. It often took several (or more) tries. I couldn’t figure out the reason but I haven’t heard of people with Albrecht chucks having this difficulty. Doesn’t mean they don’t though.

Here is a 25% of code for Zoro that’s good through tomorrow.

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Re: Nova Viking DVR 16” bench drill press
« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2019, 07:50 PM »
Thanks for the reply. Think that pushes me in the Albrecht direction.


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Re: Nova Viking DVR 16” bench drill presso
« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2019, 08:24 PM »
@08G8V8   I have to tilt over to not recommending the Llambrich. I ended up with two of the same model and had difficulty getting tooling to run true in either of them. Generally it’s not too far off to use a drill bit at first tightening but needed holes in aluminum to be exactly positioned and then then tap the holes so the bit and tap had to be true. It often took several (or more) tries. I couldn’t figure out the reason but I haven’t heard of people with Albrecht chucks having this difficulty. Doesn’t mean they don’t though.

Here is a 25% of code for Zoro that’s good through tomorrow.

Order has to be a minimum of $275

CYBER22YKE3M

Thanks for the extra 5% off.....and Zoro had the Albrecht C130-J33 chuck.  Order placed!

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Re: Nova Viking DVR 16” bench drill presso
« Reply #16 on: December 06, 2019, 09:43 AM »
Thanks for the extra 5% off.....and Zoro had the Albrecht C130-J33 chuck.  Order placed!

You'll be happy with the Albrecht...I keep a 1-13 in my drill press, a 0-10 in my lathe and I have an extra 0-10 available for the drill press for drilling really small holes.

Albrecht guarantees runout to be .0015" or less.

The only word of caution is if you are using any keyless chuck for tapping. You'll probably need to use the keyed chuck. FWIW...Albrecht does offer a "Reverse Lock" keyless chuck.


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Re: Nova Viking DVR 16” bench drill presso
« Reply #17 on: December 06, 2019, 10:06 AM »
Thanks for the extra 5% off.....and Zoro had the Albrecht C130-J33 chuck.  Order placed!

You'll be happy with the Albrecht...I keep a 1-13 in my drill press, a 0-10 in my lathe and I have an extra 0-10 available for the drill press for drilling really small holes.

Albrecht guarantees runout to be .0015" or less.

The only word of caution is if you are using any keyless chuck for tapping. You'll probably need to use the keyed chuck. FWIW...Albrecht does offer a "Reverse Lock" keyless chuck.

I will be tapping a bunch of holes for my 8020 workbench when I get my order, but those will all be done by hand since they will be in the ends of the profiles and will be too long to be done on the drillpress.

I went through one of the Nova Voyager threads and got a lot of good info.  I ordered a 5" long .5" diameter steel dowel from McMaster and will be ordering a dial indicator and magnetic base from Zoro later today and will check the runout on the Albrecht chuck and the keyed chuck that came with the Voyager.  I bought another arbor for the Albrecht as well, so I can swap back quickly. I will see how the stock chuck runout measures.

Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: Nova Viking DVR 16” bench drill presso
« Reply #18 on: December 06, 2019, 10:19 AM »
Thanks for the extra 5% off.....and Zoro had the Albrecht C130-J33 chuck.  Order placed!

You'll be happy with the Albrecht...I keep a 1-13 in my drill press, a 0-10 in my lathe and I have an extra 0-10 available for the drill press for drilling really small holes.

Albrecht guarantees runout to be .0015" or less.

The only word of caution is if you are using any keyless chuck for tapping. You'll probably need to use the keyed chuck. FWIW...Albrecht does offer a "Reverse Lock" keyless chuck.

Tapping is the reason I stuck with the Llambrich. The model I used is designed for wrench (included) tightening when needed so it can run in reverse.

I still don’t understand how a straight smooth rod can be tightened non-concentrically. My technique is to do a quick twist to grasp the bit then open up the slightest amount that allows rotating the bit and then slowly re-tighten as I continue rotating the bit until it’s really tight.

When I realized that could happen and got it to run true (the multiple function buttons help, I set one to slow speed and can easily see how the bit spins) I marked the rod and chuck so I could get it straight again later but that trick for minimizing runout in bent tooling and crummy chucks didn’t work with a straight rod and a good chuck.

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Re: Nova Viking DVR 16” bench drill presso
« Reply #19 on: December 06, 2019, 10:34 AM »
I bought another arbor for the Albrecht as well, so I can swap back quickly. I will see how the stock chuck runout measures.

It will be interesting to see what runout the stock chuck has.  [big grin]

Make sure you have a couple of arbor wedges on hand so you can easily remove the arbor.

https://www.zoro.com/jacobs-wedge-set-13268/i/G0565573/feature-product?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI-73nlqyh5gIVjtdkCh1bMwafEAQYBCABEgKIgfD_BwE

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Re: Nova Viking DVR 16” bench drill presso
« Reply #20 on: December 06, 2019, 10:41 AM »
I still don’t understand how a straight smooth rod can be tightened non-concentrically. My technique is to do a quick twist to grasp the bit then open up the slightest amount that allows rotating the bit and then slowly re-tighten as I continue rotating the bit until it’s really tight.

When I realized that could happen and got it to run true (the multiple function buttons help, I set one to slow speed and can easily see how the bit spins) I marked the rod and chuck so I could get it straight again later but that trick for minimizing runout in bent tooling and crummy chucks didn’t work with a straight rod and a good chuck.

I feel for you Michael... [sad] [sad]...that's an awful lot of dinging around to do just to chuck up a drill bit.

I agree that it's a completely random issue, otherwise when you aligned the previous marked parts, the runout should be the same as it was, it shouldn't change.

Offline jarbroen

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Re: Nova Viking DVR 16” bench drill press
« Reply #21 on: December 06, 2019, 11:40 AM »
A drill press was way down my list of need/want... but now you guys have me thinking about getting that Nova Viking. 
I just saw that recently and was surprised that I hadn't heard more about it.
Their floor stander looks really nice, but didn't want to waste the floor space (or spend $1500).
Under $1k and can be mounted on a cart sounds way better.  I actually have a cart already that would work pretty well.  Just have to relocate my Pantorouter.
I still wonder if I really 'need' a drill press though.  I don't do machining or precision drilling very often.  A regular drill usually suits my needs.  Just thinking out loud... lol

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Re: Nova Viking DVR 16” bench drill press
« Reply #22 on: December 06, 2019, 11:43 AM »
I just bought the Viking drill press and want to replace the chuck with a Jacobs style keyless.

I know this has been discussed ad nauseam in the lengthy Voyager thread but I'm looking for the Cliff Notes version.

Is Albrecht the brand to get?

What model number?

What mandrel?

Anything else I need to know?

Many thanks!

Joe
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Re: Nova Viking DVR 16” bench drill press
« Reply #23 on: December 06, 2019, 12:00 PM »
Can you post up a picture of yours when you get it setup in your cart?

@08G8V8

Here's a photo of my current set up.  The top and bottom are double thick.  My Labrador gnawed on the trim when he was a puppy and I never got around to fixing/finishing it.

I'll probably make an 80/20 cart similar to the one I'm working on for my Kapex sans the drawers.


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Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: Nova Viking DVR 16” bench drill press
« Reply #24 on: December 06, 2019, 12:04 PM »
I just bought the Viking drill press and want to replace the chuck with a Jacobs style keyless.

I know this has been discussed ad nauseam in the lengthy Voyager thread but I'm looking for the Cliff Notes version.

Is Albrecht the brand to get?

What model number?

What mandrel?

Anything else I need to know?

Many thanks!

Joe

@deepcreek just scroll up to reply 15 for the model number and on up to 14 for a discount code at Zoro (good today only)

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Re: Nova Viking DVR 16” bench drill press
« Reply #25 on: December 06, 2019, 12:11 PM »
@deepcreek

Joe

Albrecht is an excellent brand and make probably the best regarded keyless chucks.

You’ll most likely want at least 1/2 inch capacity

That’s an Albrecht 130 (1-13mm). You’ll need a #2 Morse Taper or MT2 to put in you press.

Ron

Offline jarbroen

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Re: Nova Viking DVR 16” bench drill press
« Reply #26 on: December 06, 2019, 12:14 PM »
I see a fellow Blum Tandem fan.  :)
I have a similar Kapex cart, but built with fir using M&T.  How's the cost for something like that in 80/20?  I like the extrusions but always assume it's more expensive than wood.

Offline deepcreek

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Re: Nova Viking DVR 16” bench drill press
« Reply #27 on: December 06, 2019, 12:17 PM »
IMPORTANT - I just read in the manual (page 8) that you MUST use a surge protector rated to at least 15amp 115v and a joules rating of at least 3900J to protect the DVR motor.

Also on page 9 it says for a GFI to be compatible with the DVR motor it must have a leak current threshold rating of 30mA.  Normal household GFI devices are typically rated at 5mA which may trigger when using the drill press.
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Re: Nova Viking DVR 16” bench drill press
« Reply #28 on: December 06, 2019, 12:24 PM »
How's the cost for something like that in 80/20?  I like the extrusions but always assume it's more expensive than wood.

It's more expensive than wood.  We spent about $400 on just the 80/20 extrusions (pre-cut and tapped) plus the connecting hardware.  You can do it for less if you make your own cuts/taps and source bulk extrusion from their eBay outlet.  Time is money so we just ordered directly from the 80/20 online store and assembled.

By the way, the casters came from MAPP caster in Houston.  They will make up whatever configuration you want.
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Re: Nova Viking DVR 16” bench drill press
« Reply #29 on: December 06, 2019, 12:30 PM »
Thanks for the extra 5% off.....and Zoro had the Albrecht C130-J33 chuck.  Order placed!

You'll be happy with the Albrecht...I keep a 1-13 in my drill press, a 0-10 in my lathe and I have an extra 0-10 available for the drill press for drilling really small holes.

Albrecht guarantees runout to be .0015" or less.

The only word of caution is if you are using any keyless chuck for tapping. You'll probably need to use the keyed chuck. FWIW...Albrecht does offer a "Reverse Lock" keyless chuck.

Tapping is the reason I stuck with the Llambrich. The model I used is designed for wrench (included) tightening when needed so it can run in reverse.

I still don’t understand how a straight smooth rod can be tightened non-concentrically. My technique is to do a quick twist to grasp the bit then open up the slightest amount that allows rotating the bit and then slowly re-tighten as I continue rotating the bit until it’s really tight.

When I realized that could happen and got it to run true (the multiple function buttons help, I set one to slow speed and can easily see how the bit spins) I marked the rod and chuck so I could get it straight again later but that trick for minimizing runout in bent tooling and crummy chucks didn’t work with a straight rod and a good chuck.

Yeah, there are features on the Voyager that were not added to the Viking. The Viking has no presets. It also does not have the menu system to pick a bit type and material type to get the suggested speed.


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