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Offline Michael Kellough

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Nova Viking DVR 16” bench drill press
« on: November 24, 2019, 04:52 PM »
New to me and have not seen it mentioned here.

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$1000 at Acme.

Interesting (different) features compared to the Voyager, the motor is not integrated into the head so it can be much more easily serviced/replaced, and this machine has laser sight lines built-in.

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Re: Nova Viking DVR 16” bench drill press
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2019, 11:12 AM »
Nice machine, especially if space is limited, I love my Voyager but, I think this will be well received and sell really well  [thumbs up]

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Re: Nova Viking DVR 16” bench drill press
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2019, 09:21 AM »
I didn’t know this existed either. I’ve been looking at drill presses, but was looking at floor standing models since I would need to build a cart to place a bench top model on both taking up about the same floor space. Looked at the Voyager, but it’s more than I want to spend, but this has me thinking of getting this benchtop version and building a cart.


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« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2019, 10:27 AM »
That is really cool.   I bought a Delta floor model in 1991.  To this day I'm not sure why I needed a floor model other than it looks dope in the shop.  This is a nice size, and certainly the price is more enticing than the floor model (that never goes on sale).  Thanks for pointing this out, Mike.

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Re: Nova Viking DVR 16” bench drill press
« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2019, 07:29 PM »
@Jim Kirkpatrick. The Voyager is $1550 ($150 off) at Acme.

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Re: Nova Viking DVR 16” bench drill press
« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2019, 08:27 PM »
Woodcraft has the same price. I suspect it's a manufacturers promotion.
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Re: Nova Viking DVR 16” bench drill press
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2019, 06:11 PM »
FWIW - I just used the Acme Tools' Cyber Monday promo (15% Off Max $100) to buy a Nova Viking.

Free shipping but I did pay Texas sales tax.

The promo does not work with the Nova Voyager.

NOVA-83700 Viking 16" DVR Bench Drill Press
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$999.99 product discount for Acme Tools CYBER15 Promotion ($100.00)
Order Subtotal:   $999.99
Acme Tools CYBER15 Promotion:   -$100.00
Tax:   $60.75
Shipping:   Free
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Re: Nova Viking DVR 16” bench drill press
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2019, 06:20 PM »
Good deal!  I didn’t think there would be a sale on this drillpress, or a coupon that would apply, I ordered Saturday from Amazon coming from CPO and it’s being delivered tomorrow. Went with Amazon with 5% back from the Amazon card.

Gonna need to figure out a temporary mounting solution as I planned on a floor drillpress, so now I need to build a cabinet.


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Re: Nova Viking DVR 16” bench drill press
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2019, 11:13 PM »
it is a nice system. I am going to order the Vulcan. great system.

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Re: Nova Viking DVR 16” bench drill press
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2019, 11:39 PM »
Good deal!  I didn’t think there would be a sale on this drillpress, or a coupon that would apply, I ordered Saturday from Amazon coming from CPO and it’s being delivered tomorrow. Went with Amazon with 5% back from the Amazon card.

Gonna need to figure out a temporary mounting solution as I planned on a floor drillpress, so now I need to build a cabinet.


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I currently have a Delta 12" bench top drill press mounted to a shop built cart that houses a Delta mortiser underneath.

I had contemplated the Voyager since it was released but didn't really have room for it.

The Viking will be a significant upgrade in the same footprint.

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Re: Nova Viking DVR 16” bench drill press
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2019, 09:15 AM »
it is a nice system. I am going to order the Vulcan. great system.

I'm with you...the Vulcan is going to be my next drill press also. [big grin] 

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Re: Nova Viking DVR 16” bench drill press
« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2019, 08:04 AM »
Good deal!  I didn’t think there would be a sale on this drillpress, or a coupon that would apply, I ordered Saturday from Amazon coming from CPO and it’s being delivered tomorrow. Went with Amazon with 5% back from the Amazon card.

Gonna need to figure out a temporary mounting solution as I planned on a floor drillpress, so now I need to build a cabinet.


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I currently have a Delta 12" bench top drill press mounted to a shop built cart that houses a Delta mortiser underneath.

I had contemplated the Voyager since it was released but didn't really have room for it.

The Viking will be a significant upgrade in the same footprint.

Joe

Got mine delivered yesterday. The motor housing cover was dented and paint cracked. Other than that seems to be in good shape. Will look into getting the cover replaced.

This thing is pretty beefy for a benchtop press. The specs say 154lbs, but UPS shipping says 113lbs. I need to figure out a stand design to support this. I just ordered 8020 material for my MFT-style work bench I’m making and ordered extra material so I will probably use this.

Can you post up a picture of yours when you get it setup in your cart?


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Re: Nova Viking DVR 16” bench drill press
« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2019, 06:18 PM »
New to me and have not seen it mentioned here.

Nova Viking drill press official

$1000 at Acme.

Interesting (different) features compared to the Voyager, the motor is not integrated into the head so it can be much more easily serviced/replaced, and this machine has laser sight lines built-in.

Michael, just got my Viking delivered a couple days ago, thanks for this thread. I am looking at getting a keyless chuck and saw your post in a voyager thread about this keyless chuck you have.

https://www.zoro.com/llambrich-usa-drill-chuck-keyless-steel-0512-in-2mt-jk-13-mt-2/i/G2332206/

You mentioned an issue getting drillbits to clamp up properly and was curious if you figured this out and if you’d still recommend this chuck. Zoro has 20% off this week, so it’s a good deal. I know the recommended chuck is the Albrecht, but double this chucks price.

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Re: Nova Viking DVR 16” bench drill presso
« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2019, 07:32 PM »
@08G8V8   I have to tilt over to not recommending the Llambrich. I ended up with two of the same model and had difficulty getting tooling to run true in either of them. Generally it’s not too far off to use a drill bit at first tightening but needed holes in aluminum to be exactly positioned and then then tap the holes so the bit and tap had to be true. It often took several (or more) tries. I couldn’t figure out the reason but I haven’t heard of people with Albrecht chucks having this difficulty. Doesn’t mean they don’t though.

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« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2019, 07:50 PM »
Thanks for the reply. Think that pushes me in the Albrecht direction.


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« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2019, 08:24 PM »
@08G8V8   I have to tilt over to not recommending the Llambrich. I ended up with two of the same model and had difficulty getting tooling to run true in either of them. Generally it’s not too far off to use a drill bit at first tightening but needed holes in aluminum to be exactly positioned and then then tap the holes so the bit and tap had to be true. It often took several (or more) tries. I couldn’t figure out the reason but I haven’t heard of people with Albrecht chucks having this difficulty. Doesn’t mean they don’t though.

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Thanks for the extra 5% off.....and Zoro had the Albrecht C130-J33 chuck.  Order placed!

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Re: Nova Viking DVR 16” bench drill presso
« Reply #16 on: December 06, 2019, 09:43 AM »
Thanks for the extra 5% off.....and Zoro had the Albrecht C130-J33 chuck.  Order placed!

You'll be happy with the Albrecht...I keep a 1-13 in my drill press, a 0-10 in my lathe and I have an extra 0-10 available for the drill press for drilling really small holes.

Albrecht guarantees runout to be .0015" or less.

The only word of caution is if you are using any keyless chuck for tapping. You'll probably need to use the keyed chuck. FWIW...Albrecht does offer a "Reverse Lock" keyless chuck.


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Re: Nova Viking DVR 16” bench drill presso
« Reply #17 on: December 06, 2019, 10:06 AM »
Thanks for the extra 5% off.....and Zoro had the Albrecht C130-J33 chuck.  Order placed!

You'll be happy with the Albrecht...I keep a 1-13 in my drill press, a 0-10 in my lathe and I have an extra 0-10 available for the drill press for drilling really small holes.

Albrecht guarantees runout to be .0015" or less.

The only word of caution is if you are using any keyless chuck for tapping. You'll probably need to use the keyed chuck. FWIW...Albrecht does offer a "Reverse Lock" keyless chuck.

I will be tapping a bunch of holes for my 8020 workbench when I get my order, but those will all be done by hand since they will be in the ends of the profiles and will be too long to be done on the drillpress.

I went through one of the Nova Voyager threads and got a lot of good info.  I ordered a 5" long .5" diameter steel dowel from McMaster and will be ordering a dial indicator and magnetic base from Zoro later today and will check the runout on the Albrecht chuck and the keyed chuck that came with the Voyager.  I bought another arbor for the Albrecht as well, so I can swap back quickly. I will see how the stock chuck runout measures.

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Re: Nova Viking DVR 16” bench drill presso
« Reply #18 on: December 06, 2019, 10:19 AM »
Thanks for the extra 5% off.....and Zoro had the Albrecht C130-J33 chuck.  Order placed!

You'll be happy with the Albrecht...I keep a 1-13 in my drill press, a 0-10 in my lathe and I have an extra 0-10 available for the drill press for drilling really small holes.

Albrecht guarantees runout to be .0015" or less.

The only word of caution is if you are using any keyless chuck for tapping. You'll probably need to use the keyed chuck. FWIW...Albrecht does offer a "Reverse Lock" keyless chuck.

Tapping is the reason I stuck with the Llambrich. The model I used is designed for wrench (included) tightening when needed so it can run in reverse.

I still don’t understand how a straight smooth rod can be tightened non-concentrically. My technique is to do a quick twist to grasp the bit then open up the slightest amount that allows rotating the bit and then slowly re-tighten as I continue rotating the bit until it’s really tight.

When I realized that could happen and got it to run true (the multiple function buttons help, I set one to slow speed and can easily see how the bit spins) I marked the rod and chuck so I could get it straight again later but that trick for minimizing runout in bent tooling and crummy chucks didn’t work with a straight rod and a good chuck.

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Re: Nova Viking DVR 16” bench drill presso
« Reply #19 on: December 06, 2019, 10:34 AM »
I bought another arbor for the Albrecht as well, so I can swap back quickly. I will see how the stock chuck runout measures.

It will be interesting to see what runout the stock chuck has.  [big grin]

Make sure you have a couple of arbor wedges on hand so you can easily remove the arbor.

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« Reply #20 on: December 06, 2019, 10:41 AM »
I still don’t understand how a straight smooth rod can be tightened non-concentrically. My technique is to do a quick twist to grasp the bit then open up the slightest amount that allows rotating the bit and then slowly re-tighten as I continue rotating the bit until it’s really tight.

When I realized that could happen and got it to run true (the multiple function buttons help, I set one to slow speed and can easily see how the bit spins) I marked the rod and chuck so I could get it straight again later but that trick for minimizing runout in bent tooling and crummy chucks didn’t work with a straight rod and a good chuck.

I feel for you Michael... [sad] [sad]...that's an awful lot of dinging around to do just to chuck up a drill bit.

I agree that it's a completely random issue, otherwise when you aligned the previous marked parts, the runout should be the same as it was, it shouldn't change.

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Re: Nova Viking DVR 16” bench drill press
« Reply #21 on: December 06, 2019, 11:40 AM »
A drill press was way down my list of need/want... but now you guys have me thinking about getting that Nova Viking. 
I just saw that recently and was surprised that I hadn't heard more about it.
Their floor stander looks really nice, but didn't want to waste the floor space (or spend $1500).
Under $1k and can be mounted on a cart sounds way better.  I actually have a cart already that would work pretty well.  Just have to relocate my Pantorouter.
I still wonder if I really 'need' a drill press though.  I don't do machining or precision drilling very often.  A regular drill usually suits my needs.  Just thinking out loud... lol

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Re: Nova Viking DVR 16” bench drill press
« Reply #22 on: December 06, 2019, 11:43 AM »
I just bought the Viking drill press and want to replace the chuck with a Jacobs style keyless.

I know this has been discussed ad nauseam in the lengthy Voyager thread but I'm looking for the Cliff Notes version.

Is Albrecht the brand to get?

What model number?

What mandrel?

Anything else I need to know?

Many thanks!

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« Reply #23 on: December 06, 2019, 12:00 PM »
Can you post up a picture of yours when you get it setup in your cart?

@08G8V8

Here's a photo of my current set up.  The top and bottom are double thick.  My Labrador gnawed on the trim when he was a puppy and I never got around to fixing/finishing it.

I'll probably make an 80/20 cart similar to the one I'm working on for my Kapex sans the drawers.


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Re: Nova Viking DVR 16” bench drill press
« Reply #24 on: December 06, 2019, 12:04 PM »
I just bought the Viking drill press and want to replace the chuck with a Jacobs style keyless.

I know this has been discussed ad nauseam in the lengthy Voyager thread but I'm looking for the Cliff Notes version.

Is Albrecht the brand to get?

What model number?

What mandrel?

Anything else I need to know?

Many thanks!

Joe

@deepcreek just scroll up to reply 15 for the model number and on up to 14 for a discount code at Zoro (good today only)

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Re: Nova Viking DVR 16” bench drill press
« Reply #25 on: December 06, 2019, 12:11 PM »
@deepcreek

Joe

Albrecht is an excellent brand and make probably the best regarded keyless chucks.

You’ll most likely want at least 1/2 inch capacity

That’s an Albrecht 130 (1-13mm). You’ll need a #2 Morse Taper or MT2 to put in you press.

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Re: Nova Viking DVR 16” bench drill press
« Reply #26 on: December 06, 2019, 12:14 PM »
I see a fellow Blum Tandem fan.  :)
I have a similar Kapex cart, but built with fir using M&T.  How's the cost for something like that in 80/20?  I like the extrusions but always assume it's more expensive than wood.

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« Reply #27 on: December 06, 2019, 12:17 PM »
IMPORTANT - I just read in the manual (page 8) that you MUST use a surge protector rated to at least 15amp 115v and a joules rating of at least 3900J to protect the DVR motor.

Also on page 9 it says for a GFI to be compatible with the DVR motor it must have a leak current threshold rating of 30mA.  Normal household GFI devices are typically rated at 5mA which may trigger when using the drill press.
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« Reply #28 on: December 06, 2019, 12:24 PM »
How's the cost for something like that in 80/20?  I like the extrusions but always assume it's more expensive than wood.

It's more expensive than wood.  We spent about $400 on just the 80/20 extrusions (pre-cut and tapped) plus the connecting hardware.  You can do it for less if you make your own cuts/taps and source bulk extrusion from their eBay outlet.  Time is money so we just ordered directly from the 80/20 online store and assembled.

By the way, the casters came from MAPP caster in Houston.  They will make up whatever configuration you want.
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Re: Nova Viking DVR 16” bench drill press
« Reply #29 on: December 06, 2019, 12:30 PM »
Thanks for the extra 5% off.....and Zoro had the Albrecht C130-J33 chuck.  Order placed!

You'll be happy with the Albrecht...I keep a 1-13 in my drill press, a 0-10 in my lathe and I have an extra 0-10 available for the drill press for drilling really small holes.

Albrecht guarantees runout to be .0015" or less.

The only word of caution is if you are using any keyless chuck for tapping. You'll probably need to use the keyed chuck. FWIW...Albrecht does offer a "Reverse Lock" keyless chuck.

Tapping is the reason I stuck with the Llambrich. The model I used is designed for wrench (included) tightening when needed so it can run in reverse.

I still don’t understand how a straight smooth rod can be tightened non-concentrically. My technique is to do a quick twist to grasp the bit then open up the slightest amount that allows rotating the bit and then slowly re-tighten as I continue rotating the bit until it’s really tight.

When I realized that could happen and got it to run true (the multiple function buttons help, I set one to slow speed and can easily see how the bit spins) I marked the rod and chuck so I could get it straight again later but that trick for minimizing runout in bent tooling and crummy chucks didn’t work with a straight rod and a good chuck.

Yeah, there are features on the Voyager that were not added to the Viking. The Viking has no presets. It also does not have the menu system to pick a bit type and material type to get the suggested speed.


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Re: Nova Viking DVR 16” bench drill press
« Reply #30 on: December 06, 2019, 12:32 PM »
I bought another arbor for the Albrecht as well, so I can swap back quickly. I will see how the stock chuck runout measures.

It will be interesting to see what runout the stock chuck has.  [big grin]

Make sure you have a couple of arbor wedges on hand so you can easily remove the arbor.

https://www.zoro.com/jacobs-wedge-set-13268/i/G0565573/feature-product?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI-73nlqyh5gIVjtdkCh1bMwafEAQYBCABEgKIgfD_BwE
I bought another arbor so I wouldn’t need to remove the arbor from the chuck. I guess it would be a good idea to have some wedges in the toolbox anyway. Thanks.


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Re: Nova Viking DVR 16” bench drill press
« Reply #31 on: December 06, 2019, 12:46 PM »
Can you post up a picture of yours when you get it setup in your cart?

@08G8V8

Here's a photo of my current set up.  The top and bottom are double thick.  My Labrador gnawed on the trim when he was a puppy and I never got around to fixing/finishing it.

I'll probably make an 80/20 cart similar to the one I'm working on for my Kapex sans the drawers.

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Very nice!  I am building a 8020 MFT style workbench and just ordered my material earlier this week. I ordered everything cut to length but no added machining such as tapping. I ordered some extra 1515 profile and hardware to have on hand, and think a drillpress stand is what I’ll use it for.



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Re: Nova Viking DVR 16” bench drill presso
« Reply #32 on: December 06, 2019, 01:43 PM »
I bought another arbor for the Albrecht as well, so I can swap back quickly. I will see how the stock chuck runout measures.

It will be interesting to see what runout the stock chuck has.  [big grin]

Make sure you have a couple of arbor wedges on hand so you can easily remove the arbor.

https://www.zoro.com/jacobs-wedge-set-13268/i/G0565573/feature-product?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI-73nlqyh5gIVjtdkCh1bMwafEAQYBCABEgKIgfD_BwE

Cheese, do I need the #3 set of wedges?  The chuck, stock and Albrecht are J33 taper, so does that mean it needs the #3 3JT?

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« Reply #33 on: December 06, 2019, 10:17 PM »
Cheese, do I need the #3 set of wedges?  The chuck, stock and Albrecht are J33 taper, so does that mean it needs the #3 3JT?

Well these arbor wedges are very specific in their capabilities. I have Morse 3, Morse 2 and Jacobs 6 arbors. The numbers stamped on the arbor wedges are 3...2....and 6. I'd suspect the wedges for your application should be stamped 33...just my guess. If I had better info than that, I'd let you know.  [smile]

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« Reply #34 on: December 07, 2019, 11:18 AM »
Cheese, do I need the #3 set of wedges?  The chuck, stock and Albrecht are J33 taper, so does that mean it needs the #3 3JT?

Well these arbor wedges are very specific in their capabilities. I have Morse 3, Morse 2 and Jacobs 6 arbors. The numbers stamped on the arbor wedges are 3...2....and 6. I'd suspect the wedges for your application should be stamped 33...just my guess. If I had better info than that, I'd let you know.  [smile]


I found a video on YouTube about these and the guy measured the inside width and I took a screen shot of them.

Just like the problem he had, the inside dimension was either too small or too big for the stock arbor I have. I saw other videos on how to remove the arbor in this case, but I just ordered a new arbor for the new chuck and I’ll leave the stock arbor and chuck married together.


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Re: Nova Viking DVR 16” bench drill press
« Reply #35 on: December 07, 2019, 11:29 AM »
IMPORTANT - I just read in the manual (page 8) that you MUST use a surge protector rated to at least 15amp 115v and a joules rating of at least 3900J to protect the DVR motor.

Also on page 9 it says for a GFI to be compatible with the DVR motor it must have a leak current threshold rating of 30mA.  Normal household GFI devices are typically rated at 5mA which may trigger when using the drill press.

The best deal I have found that meets the 15amp 115v and 3,900 Joules rating is from Tripp Lite and costs about $50 at Amazon.

https://www.tripplite.com/protect-it-8-outlet-industrial-safety-surge-protector-25-ft-cord-3900-joules-cord-wrap-hang-holes~TLM825SA

It's much larger than I need for my setup and comes with a ridiculously long 25 foot cord.  (Although, I suppose the cord makes sense for a construction jobsite.)

Has anyone found a better alternative?

The Isobar's like I use for my home electronics are only rated to 12 Amps and 3,840 Joules.

Thanks!

Joe
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« Reply #36 on: December 07, 2019, 11:53 AM »
I ordered this from Amazon.  It is 15amp and 4320 joule.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07GPF72BZ?ref=ppx_pt2_mob_b_prod_image



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« Reply #37 on: December 07, 2019, 12:10 PM »
I didn’t pay any attention to the joule specification, just used an ordinary surge protection outlet strip. Guess I’ve been lucky.

I don’t even know what a higher or lower joule rating means. Can anyone explain?


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Re: Nova Viking DVR 16” bench drill press
« Reply #39 on: December 07, 2019, 12:23 PM »
#6 wedge is the one for a #6 Jacobs Taper and a JT33

But as mentioned they don’t always work right with the quill end taper.

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« Reply #40 on: December 07, 2019, 12:44 PM »
I didn’t pay any attention to the joule specification, just used an ordinary surge protection outlet strip. Guess I’ve been lucky.

I don’t even know what a higher or lower joule rating means. Can anyone explain?

A joule is a measure of energy.  The joule rating of a surge protector is how many joules it can absorb.  Anything above the 3900 joule requirement from Nova will meet their specs.


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« Reply #41 on: December 07, 2019, 03:01 PM »
So the Nova DVRs can tolerate more “surge” or less?

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« Reply #42 on: December 07, 2019, 06:07 PM »
So the Nova DVRs can tolerate more “surge” or less?

Since they're specifying a surge protector rated to 3,900 joules, I suspect they're pretty sensitive or being exceedingly cautious.

@Michael Kellough & @08G8V8

Thanks for the recommendations on the surge protectors from Amazon basics.  I didn't even see them when I looked there.


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« Reply #43 on: December 07, 2019, 07:11 PM »
I didn’t pay any attention to the joule specification, just used an ordinary surge protection outlet strip. Guess I’ve been lucky.

I don’t even know what a higher or lower joule rating means. Can anyone explain?

A joule is a measure of energy.  The joule rating of a surge protector is how many joules it can absorb.  Anything above the 3900 joule requirement from Nova will meet their specs.


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This “absorb” didn’t sink in till now. Thanks.

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« Reply #44 on: December 12, 2019, 05:06 PM »
Those that got the Viking what are your thoughts?  I can't decide between Viking and Voyager. 

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« Reply #45 on: December 12, 2019, 06:15 PM »
The Viking is not simply a Voyager at a lower cost and a short leg.

The Voyager has valuable features that the Viking lacks. Compare carefully, but if you can afford both the floor space and cost, get the Voyager.

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« Reply #46 on: December 13, 2019, 09:17 AM »
The Viking is not simply a Voyager at a lower cost and a short leg.

The Voyager has valuable features that the Viking lacks. Compare carefully, but if you can afford both the floor space and cost, get the Voyager.

Any idea where we can find a function matrix, so we can compare  [tongue]?

Will be available in Europe?

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Re: Nova Viking DVR 16” bench drill press
« Reply #47 on: December 13, 2019, 09:37 AM »
The Viking is not simply a Voyager at a lower cost and a short leg.

The Voyager has valuable features that the Viking lacks. Compare carefully, but if you can afford both the floor space and cost, get the Voyager.

Any idea where we can find a function matrix, so we can compare  [tongue]?

Will be available in Europe?


Besides the difference in motor power, stroke and table size, the Viking doesn’t have the (4) speed presets and it also doesn’t have the menu system to select bit type and material type to get the recommended speed. You need to figure out the speed and turn the dial manually.

The manual depth gage is different between the 2 as well, but the electronic depth gage is so easy to use and so precise, I would imagine that would be the method used to set depth.

It does have the electronic depth control, reverse functionality, self start and it has a crosshair laser built in.

The user manual shows the Europe part number as 83703 and the UK part number as 87304. I guess you would need to inquire with a vendor that sells the Voyager to see if they will be selling the Viking.


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« Reply #48 on: December 13, 2019, 06:17 PM »
@08G8V8

Thanks for the explanation!  [thumbs up]

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« Reply #49 on: January 11, 2020, 05:12 PM »
For those of you who have bought the Nova, what is the height of the bench you have it mounted to?

The Viking spindle to base measurement is 22.66” per their website, and the Voyager same dimension is 40.94”, so a difference of 18.28”.

I am going to build a cabinet using 8020 material, as I bought extra material when I ordered material for my MFT-style workbench.  But in order to be able to use the drillpress, I wanted to get a cheap temporary stand from Harbor Freight, but both local stores did not have it in stock, so I ordered a similar stand from Amazon for a little bit more $$.

This stand is about 31” high, and I put a laminated stack of 3/4 plywood making a final height of about 32.5”.  This worked for temporary usage to drill all my 8020 material, but it puts the spindle about 14” higher than where a Voyager spindle would be.

I know the height would be user preference, but just wanted to see what other owners have used and what you feel is preferable.

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« Reply #50 on: January 16, 2020, 01:36 AM »
IMPORTANT - I just read in the manual (page 8) that you MUST use a surge protector rated to at least 15amp 115v and a joules rating of at least 3900J to protect the DVR motor.

Also on page 9 it says for a GFI to be compatible with the DVR motor it must have a leak current threshold rating of 30mA.  Normal household GFI devices are typically rated at 5mA which may trigger when using the drill press.

While at Costco yesterday I saw a pack of surge protectors. Couldn’t remember the joule spec for the Voyager so looked up the manual online. The official Voyager manual simply says “ A Surge Protection Device must be used, rated to at least 15 amps“ and notes that “ Ground Fault Interrupters (GFI's) are generally not compatible with Variable speed motors. If you wish to use a GFI or RCD, select a unit that is confirmed for use with a Variable speed motor using capacitor charge.”

You’d think they would update the Voyager manual since they now have such specific requirements for the Viking.

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Re: Nova Viking DVR 16” bench drill press
« Reply #51 on: January 16, 2020, 04:41 AM »
The same warning appears in the manual for the Rikon 14" bandsaw DVR motor upgrade which is made by Striatech, the same people who make the DVR motors for Nova lathes and drill presses.
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It's a table saw, do you know where your fingers are?

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« Reply #52 on: January 24, 2020, 03:01 PM »
Any feedback on using the Viking?   I see comments about chucks, but am wondering about ease of use, height, etc.
I'm strongly considering adding one of these to my workshop.  Mostly for woodworking and possibly light metal work some day.

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« Reply #53 on: January 26, 2020, 05:02 PM »
Any feedback on using the Viking?   I see comments about chucks, but am wondering about ease of use, height, etc.
I'm strongly considering adding one of these to my workshop.  Mostly for woodworking and possibly light metal work some day.


I do like mine, but as I asked a few posts ago, I am curious to what height folks have theirs mounted as it is tall for a “bench top” press.

I do wish it had a little more ability to configure like the Voyager, but I understand the price point and limited options. I do wish you could configure the options on what happens when depth setting is met. It will always reverses direction of the bit when the depth is hit, and don’t always want that. Also, wish it had a mechanical depth stop like the Voyager, for this reason.

It would be nice if it remembered the RPM it was set to after it is turned off. Not sure if the Voyager does, but it returns to 950rpm after it is turned off and back on. Maybe it doesn’t, which is why the Voyager has the 3 preset speed buttons that the Viking doesn’t.



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Re: Nova Viking DVR 16” bench drill press
« Reply #54 on: January 26, 2020, 06:42 PM »
@08G8V8  I think the height is a personal thing, especially with the traditional machines that have belt drive, as easy access to the belts had to be considered.

I could take measurements from my Voyager, like the height of the chuck from the floor, or centre of control panel/screen from the floor if it helps?
Mine is slightly higher than standard though, as I made a mobile base for it.

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« Reply #55 on: January 26, 2020, 06:56 PM »
@08G8V8  I think the height is a personal thing, especially with the traditional machines that have belt drive, as easy access to the belts had to be considered.

I could take measurements from my Voyager, like the height of the chuck from the floor, or centre of control panel/screen from the floor if it helps?
Mine is slightly higher than standard though, as I made a mobile base for it.


I looked at the specs online for the Voyager and Viking, and also saw both at a Woodcraft store recently, and I think it I remember it being like an 18” difference between them.  I have mine mounted on a stand with plywood on top of that, putting it on a stand about 33” high, so dropping it 18” won’t work. 

Think I’ve got it worked out to build a stand about 25” high, dropping it to a more comfortable level, and work with the amount of 8020 material I have on hand.


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Re: Nova Viking DVR 16” bench drill press
« Reply #56 on: January 30, 2020, 01:53 PM »
I really appreciate the feedback.

The laser would be nice, but the lack of other features as compared to the Voyager might drive me away from the Viking.
Saving $600 sounds great, just have to decided if I would really miss any of those options that aren't included.

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« Reply #57 on: February 01, 2020, 08:12 PM »
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The laser would be nice, but the lack of other features as compared to the Voyager might drive me away from the Viking.

It is surprising that the Voyager does not come with a laser or light. I would not purchase the Viking just to get these.

I added a Wixey laser to my Voyager ...





.. and a rechargeable bicycle light for extra illumination ...





Even so, I could live without these.

Regards from Perth

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Re: Nova Viking DVR 16” bench drill press
« Reply #58 on: February 06, 2020, 01:51 PM »
If I do end up purchasing a drill press in the near future I'm pretty certain it will be the Voyager.
The Viking is really appealing, but I think the missing features would make it less appealing for a long term tool.

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« Reply #59 on: February 06, 2020, 01:57 PM »
I was mistaken, you can change the functionality of what happens when the depth stop limit is reached. I missed it in the manual.

I emailed tech support about this and the rpm issue, and they told me how to change the reverse functionality. They also said they will look into allowing a user defined startup rpm, instead of the 900 it is currently.

Not that this will sway your opinion but just following up with updated info.


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