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Offline 3PedalMINI

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Most comfortable Hearing Protection?
« on: January 26, 2014, 07:12 PM »
Guys, My tinnitus is getting worse and it now hurts to use any power tool like my saws and RO150  [sad]

Can anyone recommend a good pair of hearing protection that is also comfortable?

TIA!
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Re: Most comfortable Hearing Protection?
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2014, 07:14 PM »
What have you tried - if any - in the past?  Would help to know what you don't like.

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Re: Most comfortable Hearing Protection?
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2014, 07:22 PM »
Guys, My tinnitus is getting worse and it now hurts to use any power tool like my saws and RO150  [sad]

Can anyone recommend a good pair of hearing protection that is also comfortable?

TIA!

It is so personal, I am not sure what I like would mean anything, other than an option to check out.  I use the same ear plugs in the shop as I do on the gun range.  I like the earplugs that are on a cord, so I can pull them and not lose them.  The specs on some are as good or better than the "headset" style.  I'd suggest maybe going to a gun shop and seeing what they have.  
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Re: Most comfortable Hearing Protection?
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2014, 07:28 PM »
A lot of guys use the Sensgard. I think that the top piece would be annoying for me, since I am bald.  Some like the Uvex headphones, etc.  Headphones get too sweaty on me. I just use the blue Hearos 33 db from the local Duane Reade and keep them in the entire time that I work, if I'm using power tools that day.  I go through a box of 14 pairs every two months...I also sleep with them in...helps muffle the city's backround noise.

http://www.amazon.com/Hearos-Plugs-Xtreme-Protection-14-Pair/dp/B001EPQ86A/ref=sr_1_43?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1390783133&sr=1-43&keywords=Hearing+protection
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Re: Most comfortable Hearing Protection?
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2014, 07:32 PM »
I always use Sens-Gard. By always I mean sometimes even when I'm not running power tools... they seem to attenuate loud noises. When the DC/Vac/Saw is off, I can clearly hear the music in the shop and have often bugged my neighbor when he walks up to ask some questions and I still have it on... I can hear him just fine and forget to take it off.  To me, that's a big plus.  But you do hear the tools, just nowhere near as loudly.  I consider that a plus since something that totally blocks all noises to me isn't as safe... with these, I can hear if the DC starts whining cuz it got plugged.  Others prefer totally blocking noises.

I generally use the -26db set all the time except when routing, then use the -31db.  The -26 are more comfortable.

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Re: Most comfortable Hearing Protection?
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2014, 07:39 PM »
3Ped,  Take care of this ASAP!  You need your hearing for your real job!

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« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2014, 07:46 PM »
I always use Sens-Gard. By always I mean sometimes even when I'm not running power tools... they seem to attenuate loud noises.

Yes, completely agree. The best hearing protection is the one you use and you will use this one. Very good hearing protection.  I hate the big ear muffs, they drown out all the sound and I can't hear the machine. You can hear what the machine is actually doing while you have the sensgards' on.
This is a big plus for me, that and like Paul said you don't even notice they are on.
Great product.
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Re: Most comfortable Hearing Protection?
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2014, 07:53 PM »
Have to agree with Tim, if the hearing protection is not comfortable you won't be using it long.
Paul  I have been using Sens-Gard since your review and I can honestly say they never come off in the shop as I work.
I highly recommend them for their comfort and noise suppression
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Re: Most comfortable Hearing Protection?
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2014, 08:29 PM »
Hmm, guess I could have posted the review :)  Here's a video review where I put the microphone in the Sens-Gard with music and DC noise.  I was used to doing shop stuff without hearing protection.  Then thought, okay, this is more than a passing hobby, so I got the Sens-Gards and now if I ever do a cut without them on "cuz it's just one cut", I really notice the difference.

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Re: Most comfortable Hearing Protection?
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2014, 08:32 PM »
I got a pair of ryobi tek4 headphones, which I like.  I have trouble with the kinds that go in the ear, so I didn't wear.  My ear doctor says I have small ear canals, might explain why I don't listen to people or can tune them out.  The ryobis work well with the battery and without.  I can also hook my iPod to them if I am sanding or tinkering at night.  
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Re: Most comfortable Hearing Protection?
« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2014, 08:46 PM »
Since I work alone 95%+ of the time, I've been wearing the silicone in-ear Apple earphones. I have no idea what the dB rating on them is, but with the appropriate sized silicone buds, they very nearly completely isolate me from outside sounds, plus they allow me to listen to podcasts and audiobooks while I work. I find them to be very comfortable for all-day (10+ hours) use. My only main gripe is, it forces you to keep up with your ear hygiene, otherwise there can be an accumulation of ear wax.  [eek]

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Offline Andy B

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Re: Most comfortable Hearing Protection?
« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2014, 08:57 PM »
I've used Howard Leight Max earplugs for years. With a NRR rating of 33 and the comfortable fit and feel they can't be beat.

Offline RobBob

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Re: Most comfortable Hearing Protection?
« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2014, 09:31 PM »
I bought the SensGard after watching Paul's review.  They are the best hearing protection I've tried for the shop.  For shooting, I double up and wear earplugs and muffs.
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Re: Most comfortable Hearing Protection?
« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2014, 10:10 PM »
3M Peltor Optime 105 is what i switched to ages ago.
very soft/comfortable, seems to be some of the best protection out there.
i perch them on my head with the cups at my temples, then move them down over my ears when the noise comes.
i look like mickey mouse/an idiot but this works great.
ear plugs take me about 45 seconds to compress,  stick in the ear and then wait for them to expand. plus they get dirty.
i can flip the headset from my temples to my ears in two seconds.
i keep earplugs around for occasional use- they are handy, work well, fit in the watch pocket of my jeans.
i have tinitus too, it sucks, be careful!

it seems that a benefit of some festools is that they are not too noisy. i wonder if anyone knows if this is by design...?
i know the vacs are quiet by design, and using a ts55 and vac is way quieter than using a table saw with dust collector...

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Re: Most comfortable Hearing Protection?
« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2014, 10:14 PM »
that sens gard looks nice too, i might try it out for work where im talking to people all day on site..

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Re: Most comfortable Hearing Protection?
« Reply #15 on: January 26, 2014, 11:25 PM »
In response to the original question.......










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Re: Most comfortable Hearing Protection?
« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2014, 03:34 AM »
I use a pair of 3M 1435 Ear Defender Muffs, they're very basic but very light and comfortable. They don't filter out all the noise, but reduce it to a bearable level. They fit so well, I often forget I'm wearing them and sometimes I find I still have them on long after I've finished using the tool.

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Re: Most comfortable Hearing Protection?
« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2014, 06:03 AM »
Sittingelf
Hard to make out which brand you are wearing. Preferences? Thanks

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« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2014, 07:26 AM »
Heh heh!  David Clark Helicopter Headset. Gel ear pads, and ultimate volume control!  [thumbs up] [big grin]
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Re: Most comfortable Hearing Protection?
« Reply #19 on: January 27, 2014, 07:32 AM »
In a previous life I drove a concrete mixer for a living and wore sure fire earplugs, they are made for shooting and the louder the sound the more they block out. I wore them everyday for 10-12 hrs a day and found them very comfortable.
My dad has some custom moulded earplugs that he really likes for in the shop, I think he got them from an audiologist.
Now if I'm doing something noisy I just wear my shure noise isolating in ear earphones and rock out while I work.

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Re: Most comfortable Hearing Protection?
« Reply #20 on: January 27, 2014, 07:43 AM »

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« Reply #21 on: January 27, 2014, 09:14 AM »
3M Peltor Optime 105

+1

Very comfortable and effective.  If you live in a hot and humid area, the cups around the ears may bother you.  I have never tried the Sensgard but notice they get somewhat mixed reviews on Amazon.

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« Reply #22 on: January 27, 2014, 10:51 AM »
I had a pair of the Sensguard a long time ago soon after they came out.

I wore them for a while, but never found them very comfortable. However, they worked well. The problem is that unlike in-ear earphones which usually come with a variety of bud sizes, the Sensguard foam buds are one size only (which seem to be too small for my ears). So if you have the right ear holes for them they can be excellent.

For a while now I have used the Peltor 105 ear protectors which I like very much...so much so that I considered getting another pair for home use for the unwanted ear-bashing from wife and kids.

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Re: Most comfortable Hearing Protection?
« Reply #23 on: January 27, 2014, 01:12 PM »
+1 for Peltor ear muffs.

Most definitely the most comfortable ear muffs I have ever worn, for me muffs are better than plugs.

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Re: Most comfortable Hearing Protection?
« Reply #24 on: January 27, 2014, 01:43 PM »
I use the Peltor Tactical 6s Ear muffs and they are incomparable, I use them In my Tactical rifle training and can say that when your carbine partners are simultaneously firing consecutive shots right next to your head along with the firing of your own rifle its a life saver...But surprisingly I've never used them in the shop
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Re: Most comfortable Hearing Protection?
« Reply #26 on: January 27, 2014, 02:26 PM »
I've been using Peltor's for years, what I like is that you can rebuild a set for about $ 6.00 which includes new inside foam and ear cups. After 3-4 years the cups start to get hard and crack.
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Re: Most comfortable Hearing Protection?
« Reply #27 on: January 27, 2014, 03:29 PM »
3M Peltor Optime 105

+1

Very comfortable and effective.  If you live in a hot and humid area, the cups around the ears may bother you.  I have never tried the Sensgard but notice they get somewhat mixed reviews on Amazon.

Phred

I think they get mixed reviews because people don't follow the directions.  There is a particular way they must be put on and if you don't do it that way, they do not seal properly.

Offline GarryMartin

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Re: Most comfortable Hearing Protection?
« Reply #28 on: January 28, 2014, 08:04 AM »
I generally use the -26db set all the time except when routing, then use the -31db.  The -26 are more comfortable.

DISCLAIMER: I'm aware that Paul-Marcel works on his own in his garage, and that his hearing protection allows ambient noise to travel through, but I thought I'd use his SNR values to illustrate that there is such a thing as "over-protection" when it comes to hearing protection. [wink]

In the UK, the Health & Safety Executive recommend that you should aim for between 80 dB and 75 dB at the ear and should avoid protectors resulting in less than 70 dB at the ear as this can lead to unsafe working environments and isolation. (see http://www.hse.gov.uk/noise/goodpractice/hearingoverprotect.htm)

Of all the tools I own, the TS75 has the highest Sound Pressure Level dB(A) which equates to the noise level measured at the operators ears (of 95 dB). The lowest are my T15 and CXS (a mere 65 dB).

Using more than one tool at once should add no more than about 3 dB to the overall number. TS75 (95 dB) and CTL 26 E (71 dB) works out at 95.01 dB whilst the ETS 150 (72 dB) and CTL Midi (72 dB)work out at 75.01 dB.

So using the "loudest" machine, the TS75 (95 dB) with the CTL 26 E (71 dB) whilst wearing 31 SNR protectors, results in 68 dB at the ear which is slightly below recommendations. At 26 SNR, it's 73 dB at the ear which gives adequate protection and does not "over-protect". But the 26 SNR protectors would result in "over-protection" with some of the quieter tools and a lower SNR may be advisable.

Now obviously "over-protecting" won't damage your hearing, but outside of the home workshop, it could cause the safety and isolation problems mentioned by the HSE.

Of course, the designs like those that Paul-Marcel uses, that allow sound at safe levels to pass through to the ear canal while reducing potentially harmful noises (above 85dB) change the equation slightly, but not everyone is using those.

Personally, given I work on my own in a small garage and my woodworking is part-time in nature (as the length of time of exposure is also a variable), I like to use different protection depending on the nature of the work. When using tools that can inflict severe physical damage to me in milliseconds (saws, routers etc.) I like to know the tool is on and in use!  [scared]

When sanding for longer periods, I like to listen to music instead of the sounds of the tool and extractor. When drilling, I hardly ever have earing protection on unless it's already in place from other operations.

I guess what I'm saying is that one size doesn't always fit all (with regard to SNR level as well as type of protection) and as mentioned earlier in the thread, the best hearing protection is the one you actually wear.

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« Reply #29 on: January 28, 2014, 10:49 AM »
Excellent post, Garry.

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Re: Most comfortable Hearing Protection?
« Reply #30 on: January 28, 2014, 11:39 AM »
Good thread as I've been looking to get a pair of something that I can listen to music while sanding for long periods, etc.  I'd also like to use them when doing other monotonous jobs, such as using the wood splitter for hours on end, etc.  The Ryobi Tek4's have peaked my interest... cheapest through HomeDepot: http://www.homedepot.com/p/Ryobi-Tek4-Audio-Plus-Noise-Suppression-Headphones-RP4530/100671268#product_description

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Re: Most comfortable Hearing Protection?
« Reply #31 on: January 28, 2014, 12:33 PM »
Yes, I'll second that, excellent post, Garry....
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Re: Most comfortable Hearing Protection?
« Reply #32 on: January 28, 2014, 12:53 PM »
Thanks guys. Appreciate the feedback.

Offline Tinker

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Re: Most comfortable Hearing Protection?
« Reply #33 on: January 28, 2014, 02:22 PM »
Garry,
An excellent post.  I have been sitting hear (Ha! pun intended) reading every post.  right from the start, i was thinking about the problem of cutting out too much sound.  Your post lays it all out.  I don't understand ALL of the specs, but the idea comes across in a way that anybody can understand.

For years, I worked in construction, but for most of my work, I was actually isolated from most of any bpthersome noises.  I never wore any ear protection unless i was running a chainsaw.  It was not until my knees began bumping my chin (I was a mason and used to be 7 feet tall.  When I shrunk down to only 3 feet tall, I quit that biz) that I got into a biz that made all kinds of noise all day.  I started landscaping and ran mowers, chainsaws, blowers, tractors and a lot of other noisy machines.  I decided that it was time to wear earmuffs.  Sort of like Sittingelf's.  I had a large crew of highschool and cllege age young men working as well.  I insisted they wear hearing protection as well.  I bought muffs for everyone and had an extra supply.  I was happy to notice that some of the guys were using their own muffs, but did not pay much attention to brand or anything like that.  With the muffs that i had supplied, they could hear when I yelled at them, or more importantly, they coud be aware of machinery movement around them.  Soon, I began to reallise the lads who were wearing their own muffs could hear nothing.  They did not even hear a loud mower coming anywhere near them.  I thought it was the long hair and was about to instruct they cut the hair back above the ears, until i noticed they not only could not hear ANY THING, they were bouncing around like bees were in their pants.

I took closer notice and found hey were wearing the type muffs that were hooked to tiny radios of some kind. The boom came down.  I ordered that they could only wear something that allowed them to hear ME.  Since I am a veeerrryyy mild mannered person, I knew they would be able to hear the danger noises as well.  No hearing monitoring contraptions with wires connected were to be worn on any of my jobs.  As I read later, those music types of muffs could be more dangerous tto the ears than the noises they were trying to hide from.  Recently, my grandson started working with me.  I boght him the same kind of muffs i wear.  He mentioned listening to music with them.  My reply was a very emphatic NO!.  I su ppose if they listened to the type music I would listen to, they would be ok.  But when the music rattles the walls, >>>>>>>>>>!
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Re: Most comfortable Hearing Protection?
« Reply #34 on: January 28, 2014, 03:28 PM »
When I'm on site I use a pair of husqvarna radio muffs which I wear all day no problems, I has 3 volume presets which allow me to turn up when gets noisy and the low setting just gives me ambient sound and I can still hear people talking to me.
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Re: Most comfortable Hearing Protection?
« Reply #35 on: January 28, 2014, 04:29 PM »
They did not even hear a loud mower coming anywhere near them.

[scared]

One of the other interesting by products of "just enough" hearing protection is that it tends to be more comfortable. The higher the SNR rating with in-ear plugs, the more they need to expand into the ear; the higher the SNR rating with ear muffs, the tighter they have to be on the ear. As a consequence, comfort can suffer, and so people can end up not wearing them when they should do. Once again, the best ear protection is the ear protection you actually wear, and the more comfortable it is, the more likely you are to wear it.

Paul-Marcel hinted at this previously with the comment about wearing the 26 SNR most of the time, and the 31 SNR only when using louder tools as the 26 SNR were more comfortable with the 31 SNR being a tighter fit in the ear.

Offline andyman

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Re: Most comfortable Hearing Protection?
« Reply #36 on: January 28, 2014, 04:51 PM »
I quite fancy giving the sensgard ones a try anyone know where in the uk I can get them

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Re: Most comfortable Hearing Protection?
« Reply #37 on: January 28, 2014, 05:58 PM »
I shoot shotguns competitively when I'm not doing woodworking. I also shoot .45 1911 pistols (loud).

My hearing is shot from early life shooting without any protection, age, and flying airplanes. I do anything I can to protect the hearing I have left.

When shooting shotguns, I use "active" ear plugs. They are custom fitted by an audiologist, act as hearing aids in normal noise levels and shut off if the noise level exceeds a preset level. I also have some "passive" ear plugs that musicians use to limit the sound levels reaching your inner ear. They are also custom fitted by an audiologist.

If I'm using a very noisy machine, I wear Peltor muffs. Noisy machines include bandsaw, planer, jointer, router, and table saw.

If I'm shooting pistols, I wear the passive ear plugs and a set of active Peltor muffs.

I really advise seeing an audiologist.
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Re: Most comfortable Hearing Protection?
« Reply #38 on: January 29, 2014, 05:53 PM »
Like someone else said, I find ear plugs to be uncomfortable so I always wear muffs. I have been using Peltor for 10 years or more and just ordered the X5A after reading this thread and great reviews on Amazon about them.
We had a family friend that was an ENT who always said that he would rather be blind than deaf because most of his deaf patients were miserable and not the blind ones. It seems hard to believe but that stuck with me at an early age and I have been good about wearing ear protection.  My hearing is still very good and I don't know why after 39 years of construction and shop work. Everything else is shot so I am protecting the hearing.

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Re: Most comfortable Hearing Protection?
« Reply #39 on: January 30, 2014, 02:20 PM »
I have never tried the plug type.  I am working in dust all the time thru the growing season.  i am sure the plug type might keep some of the dust ut of my ears, but at the same time, I think they would tend to trap any dust that might get in during periods of non wear.

The dust I work around includes normal seed and ground dust kicked up by mowers, soil dust kicked up by tractor drawn equipment, and things like that.  Of greater concern is the fertilizers and pesticides that get thrown around.  I do not use any pesticides on the lawns i give full service to, but many of the lawns I mow use chemical lawn feeding services.  That kind of stuff gives me more than a slight concern.

When i was in construction, I was working with cement and lime nearly every day. On days when I was not using the cementing materials, i was working with the backhoe and related equipment. About once a month, i had to flush out my ears.  The wax would build up to a very thick and solid plug with steaks of color related to the types of dust I was working in.  Now I am working in a medium that produces, in my mind, a more dangerous type of dust, i use the ear muff type that completely covers the entire ear.

I'm not suggesting my method is any better than what others are wearing, it is just that my mind (such as it is  [unsure]) can rest easier.
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Re: Most comfortable Hearing Protection?
« Reply #40 on: January 31, 2014, 10:47 AM »
who always said that he would rather be blind than deaf because most of his deaf patients were miserable and not the blind ones

I suggest wearing eye protection as well, then there is hope of avoiding both...

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Re: Most comfortable Hearing Protection?
« Reply #41 on: February 06, 2014, 04:48 PM »
Just got my new Peltor X5A. Very well made, fit my 7-3/8 egg perfectly, soft, ears fit in just right, very comfortable. These are the Rolls Royce of ear muffs. They are rated -31dB, but may be even better. Closest thing to a sensory deprivation tank I could have found. Loud machines are like kittens. Wear them for a while to get used to, because they are so quiet that they may be a little weird.  I can see why these are not for everyone. If I worked around others of whom I had to be aware of, then these would be too much.  I love them.  Say what?  I can't hear you.
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Re: Most comfortable Hearing Protection?
« Reply #42 on: February 18, 2014, 02:48 PM »
I bought two pairs of Peltor about 17 years ago. I still use them. Is this sufficient? FYI I also have tinitus, and the older I get, the worst it gets.
I should recommend a Peltor with a SNR of at least 30 dB.

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Re: Most comfortable Hearing Protection?
« Reply #43 on: February 21, 2014, 02:13 PM »
For me there is just one brand: peltor

Using the black/red version and one which has some additional functions. (3M™ Peltor™ WS™ LiteCom)

Very nice as you can still communicate and even hear things at normal sound level which is actually safer then just blocking sound. I can still hear a screw falling  [smile] for example.


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Offline Roseland

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Re: Most comfortable Hearing Protection?
« Reply #44 on: February 21, 2014, 02:50 PM »
If you want to play safe go with some of these: at 36db I reckon they're as effective as any.  I slip them on when I'm using power tools and take them off when I'm not.

http://www.axminster.co.uk/uvex-x-hi-vis-professional-ear-defenders

Andrew
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Offline Asterix

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Re: Most comfortable Hearing Protection?
« Reply #45 on: February 22, 2014, 04:31 PM »
I really like this topic.  [smile] So often people do not take care for themselves or others.

I'm pretty often on job sites with heavy machinery in NA and each time surprised that I'm the only one, or some do use some simple plugs as ear protection.

It seems that workers thinking that's it is tough not to use ear protection. ???

Even my 4 and 6 yr old daughters do have their own pink Peltor Kid / Junior earmuffs. (and safety glasses)
They enjoy being in their "safe" corner (max one at the time) in the shop playing with pieces of wood while I can just continu making some noise.



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Machinery: slipformpavers
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Offline Tinker

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Re: Most comfortable Hearing Protection?
« Reply #46 on: February 24, 2014, 02:20 PM »
who always said that he would rather be blind than deaf because most of his deaf patients were miserable and not the blind ones

I suggest wearing eye protection as well, then there is hope of avoiding both...

 ;D

I have always worn eye protection.  A necessity until I got rid of my "cadilacs".  I can hardly stand the brite sunlite since then.  The hearing protection, not so much.  In years back, there was almost no ear protection.  I worked with tradesmen who always had a bag, or box of cotton to stuff into their ears.  I was tough.  No cotton.  no nothing.  People did not worry about their ears.  Today, i have to reming my friends they have to speak louder than the crickets if they want me to hear what they are saying. 

When I am mowing, especially in the fall when i am doing leaves, I am all bundled up from my neck up.  Hat on top.  Earmuffs.
Dark wrap around glasses and a face mask to keep the dust out of my lungs.  Somewhere under all of that protection, one can only immagine there is a head somewhere.  [eek]

Tinker
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Offline Jak147

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Re: Most comfortable Hearing Protection?
« Reply #47 on: February 24, 2014, 02:36 PM »
I quite fancy giving the sensgard ones a try anyone know where in the uk I can get them
Me too, so far I can only find 31 in a boring dark green meant for shooting. They are branded as Napier but are licensed from sensgard.
Would really like some of the high vis ones

Offline rjwz28

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Re: Most comfortable Hearing Protection?
« Reply #48 on: February 24, 2014, 03:28 PM »
I too bought the Sensguards because I seen it on a video from Paul Marcel.  I find them to work great when I can get them on right.  They don't fit my head good with my glasses on.  I need to keep positioning then forward and backward to get the right seal.  If I could get them to work without the bar going over your head, I would surely use them.  I guess they fit good for people who don't use glasses.  For now I just use the individual orange foam ones.

Rob

Offline Cableaddict

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Re: Most comfortable Hearing Protection?
« Reply #49 on: February 24, 2014, 05:07 PM »
If I go to a rock concert or something, then I wear custom-molded silicon plugs, as they are incredibly comfortable.

-  but in the shop, you need to remove them a lot, so that doesn't work for me.  I Like the Peltors.  105, Ambassador.  These are so comfortable, I even sleep with them, with my in-ear buds also in place.  (it's very noisy where I sleep.)

I also have Peltor attachments for my 3M forced-air faceshield/helmet. (an expensive luxury which I find indespensible, since I wear glasses.)

Never tried Sensguard, but I'm going to.

Offline Cableaddict

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Re: Most comfortable Hearing Protection?
« Reply #50 on: February 24, 2014, 05:14 PM »
BTW-

FOR THOSE OF YOU WITH TINNITUS:


Do yourself a huge favor, and start sleeping with ear buds.  In fact, do as I do and use buds + good ear muffs.  I'm aprofessionale musician & recording engineer, and while my hearing is obviously critical to me, I've also beat the snot out of my ears for years, and have had many bouts with tinnitus.

-  but you can make it go away!  (mostly.)  

I don't have time to go into the science of it, and besides it's just my personal theory (having to do with the brain's "reference tone") but the bottom line is:  The more loud & isolated you can make that tone, the more the brain will repress it.  So, if you can virtually isolate it every night while you sleep, this gives your brain a chance to "drop it back into the mix," so to speak.

This has worked for me several times over the years, when my tinnitus was so bad that I thought my career was over & I might never even sleep again.  It's also helped several friends, and a bunch of guys on w-working forums.

Don't bother asking your doctor about it, as he/she won't know.  Just do it.
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Offline NYC Tiny Shop

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Re: Most comfortable Hearing Protection?
« Reply #51 on: February 24, 2014, 05:29 PM »
BTW-

FOR THOSE OF YOU WITH TINNITUS:


Do yourself a huge favor, and start sleeping with ear buds.  In fact, do as I do and use buds + good ear muffs.  I'm aprofessionale musician & recording engineer, and while my hearing is obviously critical to me, I've also beat the snot out of my ears for years, and have had many bouts with tinnitus.

-  but you can make it go away!  (mostly.) 

I don't have time to go into the science of it, and besides it's just my personal theory (having to do with the brain's "reference tone") but the bottom line is:  The more loud & isolated you can make that tone,the more the brain with repress it.  So, if you can virtually isolate it every night while you sleep, this gives your brain a chance to "drop it back into the mix," so to speak.

This has worked for me several times over the years, when my tinnitus was so bad that I thought my career was over & I might never even sleep again.  It's also helped several friends, and a bunch of guys on w-working forums.

Don't bother asking your doctor about it, as he/she won't know.  Just do it.

+1
to sleep with ear plugs to help make it go away.  Also, you can gently cup your ears with hands to form a suction and lightly release inorder to allow the blown-down cilia to pop back up. Do every day for a few weeks, two x per day. ( This is a trick that a Chinese master taught me.)

Offline andyman

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Re: Most comfortable Hearing Protection? Revisit
« Reply #52 on: January 16, 2015, 02:54 PM »
I quite fancy giving the sensgard ones a try anyone know where in the uk I can get them
Me too, so far I can only find 31 in a boring dark green meant for shooting. They are branded as Napier but are licensed from sensgard.
Would really like some of the high vis ones
Anyone know anywhere now stocking sensgard other than amazon

Offline grbmds

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Re: Most comfortable Hearing Protection? Revisit
« Reply #53 on: January 16, 2015, 07:11 PM »
I quite fancy giving the sensgard ones a try anyone know where in the uk I can get them
Me too, so far I can only find 31 in a boring dark green meant for shooting. They are branded as Napier but are licensed from sensgard.
Would really like some of the high vis ones
Anyone know anywhere now stocking sensgard other than amazon

I believe I bought mine directly from the company online. Did you check their website?
Randy

Offline Tim Raleigh

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Re: Most comfortable Hearing Protection? Revisit
« Reply #54 on: January 16, 2015, 08:11 PM »
I quite fancy giving the sensgard ones a try anyone know where in the uk I can get them
Me too, so far I can only find 31 in a boring dark green meant for shooting. They are branded as Napier but are licensed from sensgard.
Would really like some of the high vis ones
Anyone know anywhere now stocking sensgard other than amazon

Lee valley stocks them

Offline andyman

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Re: Most comfortable Hearing Protection?
« Reply #55 on: January 17, 2015, 02:30 AM »
Sorry should have mentioned in the UK

Offline Tinker

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Re: Most comfortable Hearing Protection?
« Reply #56 on: January 17, 2015, 05:54 AM »
BTW-

FOR THOSE OF YOU WITH TINNITUS:


Do yourself a huge favor, and start sleeping with ear buds.  In fact, do as I do and use buds + good ear muffs.  I'm aprofessionale musician & recording engineer, and while my hearing is obviously critical to me, I've also beat the snot out of my ears for years, and have had many bouts with tinnitus.

-  but you can make it go away!  (mostly.) 

I don't have time to go into the science of it, and besides it's just my personal theory (having to do with the brain's "reference tone") but the bottom line is:  The more loud & isolated you can make that tone, the more the brain will repress it.  So, if you can virtually isolate it every night while you sleep, this gives your brain a chance to "drop it back into the mix," so to speak.

This has worked for me several times over the years, when my tinnitus was so bad that I thought my career was over & I might never even sleep again.  It's also helped several friends, and a bunch of guys on w-working forums.

Don't bother asking your doctor about it, as he/she won't know.  Just do it.

That is interesting. In my case, when i was doing masonry, i would start getting tinitis and it was a clue to clean the wax out.  That wax would get real hard with cement, lime and sand dust, and i would not dare to stick a cue tip in there.  I would tilt my head and pour a little baby oil into the ear let it sit a minute or so and then using a squeeze bulb, force warm water into the ear.  A few squirts, and a big glob of very dark and very hard wax would pop out.  Repeat with other ear.  After which, i would need to brace myself to walls and doors for a few minutes to walk.  Once the equilibrium returned, I could walk straight and the crickets had left with the wax.

Of course, I now know the crickets really had nothing to do with wax.  I have perfect hearing after years of working around loud machinery (since doing landscaping, i have worn ear protection.  When in construction I never covered my ears).  i know my hearing is perfect.  I know people need to talk louder to me , as i don't understand them the fist time around.  BUT, my hearing is actually much better than any body else's.  I can hear crickets, katydids, cicadas, peepers and all sorts of noises that nobody else can hear.  I can hear them year round/24/7 while nobody around me can hear any of those critters.  Oh, and i can even hear them with my earmuffs covering my ears.  So, I know my hearing is very exceptional.  It is so good, why, just the other day i heard a guy telling his friend about a bridge for sale.  I jumped right in to the conversation and put in the highest bid.  ;)

I don't think the trick of wearing ear protection at nite would work for me.  The only way i shut out the noise is that i am so used to the racket, i just ignore.  Ignorance does have other advantages, like when my wife starts giving me the Honey Do List.  Of course, she puts into a different context with the  accent of a different syllable when she mentions ignorance. ::) ::)
Tinker
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Offline Francis_Beland

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Re: Most comfortable Hearing Protection?
« Reply #57 on: January 19, 2015, 12:29 PM »
Being a drummer, I use headphones specifically for drummers in my shop. They have a 25 decibels sound reduction.

http://www.vicfirth.com/products/headphones.php

Offline Purre

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Re: Most comfortable Hearing Protection?
« Reply #58 on: January 19, 2015, 08:32 PM »
3M Peltor WS Alert XP or the 3M Ear Soft

Offline NH-Engineering

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Re: Most comfortable Hearing Protection?
« Reply #59 on: January 19, 2015, 10:00 PM »
Peltor hrxs7a-01, This have a built in FM receiver. I combine this with a Belkin FM transmitter and I can play music cordless from my PC.