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Offline Bugsysiegals

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Milwaukee M12 23 Gauge Pin Nailer
« on: November 28, 2020, 10:04 AM »
I’m considering a pin nailer and figured I’d stay pneumatic but just spotted this!!  If this works well this could be a really nice small and lightweight pin nailer??

https://toolguyd.com/milwaukee-m12-cordless-pin-nailer-082020/

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Offline Don T

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Re: Milwaukee M12 23 Gauge Pin Nailer
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2020, 02:11 PM »
I’m waiting for this also. I have the 18ga and it works great. Once I get the pinner I can get rid of my compressor.
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Offline iekoch@comcast.net

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Re: Milwaukee M12 23 Gauge Pin Nailer
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2021, 12:26 AM »
My only issue is the 1 3/8" limit on the pins. 
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Offline mkasdin

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Re: Milwaukee M12 23 Gauge Pin Nailer
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2021, 12:38 AM »
My grex only shoots 1 1/8” pin nails, for the majority of work it’s enough. It won’t go through 3/4” trim + 5/8” drwywall + 1” into the stud. For that I use a 18 gauge nailer I prefer an air compressor over cordless nailers? I owned Milwaukee before, but gave up and switched to Makita and Festool and some Dewalt.

Offline Bugsysiegals

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Re: Milwaukee M12 23 Gauge Pin Nailer
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2021, 01:00 AM »
Wondering when this will be released?

Offline Don T

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Re: Milwaukee M12 23 Gauge Pin Nailer
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2021, 04:55 PM »
I read that it was going to be the first quarter of 2021.
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Offline CeeJay

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Re: Milwaukee M12 23 Gauge Pin Nailer
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2021, 04:07 AM »
If you have Makita 18V gear, there’s an 18V Makita 23Ga pin nailer available. I’ve had it for a year now and find I use it all the time. Really useful.


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Offline Bugsysiegals

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Re: Milwaukee M12 23 Gauge Pin Nailer
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2021, 12:03 PM »
I've Milwaukee 12v drill and impact so figured this would be excellent.

That said, I sold one of my Festool tracks to a guy who was a Mikita user and it seems some people prefer their saws versus Festool but I've never looked into Makita brand ...

Offline Packard

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Re: Milwaukee M12 23 Gauge Pin Nailer
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2021, 03:39 PM »
On Sunday I bought a 18 gage Milwaukee pin nailer.  It is both bigger and heavier than my pneumatic nailer (which I will still use, but only at the assembly bench, not on location).

I have a 15 gage angle nailer also a Milwaukee and it is very good, and not much heavier than my old P-C nailer which has cost me a fortune in repairs and is destined to the junk pile.

One of the advantages of a pin nailer is that it is light and maneuverable.  Also, I use my 23 gage pin nailer at the assembly bench almost exclusively. 

I would have to handle the Milwaukee pin nailer.  I suspect that the mechanism cannot be reduced much in size over the 18 gage unit.  In any event, I would want to handle the nailer before I bought one.

Offline builderbob

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Re: Milwaukee M12 23 Gauge Pin Nailer
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2021, 05:11 PM »
If the Milwaukee 23 ga sets nails well, it’s going to be a winner in the cordless field. I am definitely looking forward to getting on the preorder as soon as it’s able to be ordered. I’m sure we will see some in the wild soon enough from the testers!

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Offline rst

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Re: Milwaukee M12 23 Gauge Pin Nailer
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2021, 07:36 PM »
I bought the 2nd gen Milwaukee 15ga brad nailer and love it.  I have  and a couple 45 year old pinners, and a pneumatic 35 year old 15ga Senco SFN II, if you think the new battery nailers are heavy, you should use this, its the same size and weight as the new framing nailers.  I've had pneumatic pinners, staplers and brad nailers for fifty years.  I have Grex brad nailer, 3/16" stapler and upholstery stapler and was considering the new battery platforms and them Milwaukee released the 18v compressor.  No longer a need for the battery powered ones and I can keep my tried and true original pneumatics.  That SFN II was originally a ring shank nailer that I used to install Kawneer shadowform...a 3/32 thick tempered anodized aluminum siding type material.  I converted it to a 15 ga brad nailer after the shadowform was phased out of production.

Offline Packard

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Re: Milwaukee M12 23 Gauge Pin Nailer
« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2021, 04:44 PM »
I found a size comparison, and it seems quite compact:


Offline Bugsysiegals

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Re: Milwaukee M12 23 Gauge Pin Nailer
« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2021, 05:06 PM »
I recently drilled an MDF top using the Parf Guide Mark II and my M12 drill.  Peter mentions using a "pecking" motion and even with the M12 I found it somewhat difficult to hold the drill guide adapter steady without it wanting to lean a bit.  After a bit, I decided to try my M12 impact which helped tremendously as it's really light weight.  I'm not sure about the weight of the pin nailer here but with that smaller battery I bet it's pretty light.

I was thinking of getting it for when I get to crown molding in the kitchen but wonder what other uses there would be for it??

Offline Blues

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Re: Milwaukee M12 23 Gauge Pin Nailer
« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2021, 05:08 PM »
As a strategy i have decided to stick with pneumatic nailer.  The battery operated nailers are decidedly bulky and heavy. May be if the prices and sizes come down..m12 play form is very interesting though.

Offline FestitaMakool

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Re: Milwaukee M12 23 Gauge Pin Nailer
« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2021, 05:12 PM »
I’m considering the Makita. I was curious about this Milwaukee when I first saw it.
Pricing is very good.
But, one of the advantages of the Makita has been its ability to nail very close to a wall. That difference is very visible in your comparison, Packard - thanks for posting this comparison.

Hmm, think I’ll keep my mind on the Makita (Metabo’s version seem very similar though)
Does anyone know the pricing on the Metabo and Makita in the US?
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Offline Bugsysiegals

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Re: Milwaukee M12 23 Gauge Pin Nailer
« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2021, 05:25 PM »
As a strategy i have decided to stick with pneumatic nailer.  The battery operated nailers are decidedly bulky and heavy. May be if the prices and sizes come down..m12 play form is very interesting though.

I didn't think the M12 would be very strong but would be light enough to be easy to use inside cabinets without wearing out your arm ... then I framed almost an entire basement on a single charge using the M12 impact driver!  I was planning to replace my old 14.4V Dewalt set with their newer 20V line but I really love the lighter weight M12 and I've never wished it had more power. 

That said, I could see getting the 20V for saws as those drain a lot more power.

Offline Bugsysiegals

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Re: Milwaukee M12 23 Gauge Pin Nailer
« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2021, 05:26 PM »
I’m considering the Makita. I was curious about this Milwaukee when I first saw it.
Pricing is very good.
But, one of the advantages of the Makita has been its ability to nail very close to a wall. That difference is very visible in your comparison, Packard - thanks for posting this comparison.

Hmm, think I’ll keep my mind on the Makita (Metabo’s version seem very similar though)
Does anyone know the pricing on the Metabo and Makita in the US?

I'm not sure I follow ... it seems the M12 has less height and could more easily get into areas sideways than the Makita.  The Makita may be a little less wide but it doesn't appear substantial in my eyes.  It would be nice to see the measurements...

Offline FestitaMakool

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Re: Milwaukee M12 23 Gauge Pin Nailer
« Reply #17 on: January 13, 2021, 05:41 PM »
Better now? [smile]


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Offline CeeJay

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Re: Milwaukee M12 23 Gauge Pin Nailer
« Reply #18 on: January 13, 2021, 06:02 PM »
That M12 looks really nice and compact. If I wasn’t already on the Makita 18V platform I’d have considered that carefully.


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Offline CeeJay

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Re: Milwaukee M12 23 Gauge Pin Nailer
« Reply #19 on: January 13, 2021, 06:25 PM »
There is also a Makita 12V 23Ga nailer. It’s not a great deal smaller and lighter than the 18V - with battery it’s 2.0kg vs 2.3kg.

The M12 nailer is apparently 1.3kgs which is a big saving.


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Offline notenoughcash

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Re: Milwaukee M12 23 Gauge Pin Nailer
« Reply #20 on: January 14, 2021, 03:58 AM »
i'm on lxt, m12 and festool 18v.

so i will be buying the m12.

usefull i think it will be
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Offline Bugsysiegals

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Re: Milwaukee M12 23 Gauge Pin Nailer
« Reply #21 on: January 14, 2021, 06:09 AM »
What projects do you use the pin nailer for? 

Offline CeeJay

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Milwaukee M12 23 Gauge Pin Nailer
« Reply #22 on: January 14, 2021, 06:21 AM »
I use it quite a lot. Often instead of clamps for a short term hold while glue sets or for positioning.

For jig-making with ply while the glue sets, for positioning drawer fronts before clamping, for solid edge-banding while glue sets etc.

Basically as an invisible temporary fix.


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Offline Bugsysiegals

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Re: Milwaukee M12 23 Gauge Pin Nailer
« Reply #23 on: January 14, 2021, 06:39 AM »
I imagine the pins only have side to side holding power for holding edges flush but on a glued joint don’t actually pull and hold the pieces tightly?  It just sees the pin itself wouldn’t grip in this way and would slip making it more useful for resisting side to side motion?

Offline Packard

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Re: Milwaukee M12 23 Gauge Pin Nailer
« Reply #24 on: January 14, 2021, 02:03 PM »
As a strategy i have decided to stick with pneumatic nailer.  The battery operated nailers are decidedly bulky and heavy. May be if the prices and sizes come down..m12 play form is very interesting though.

I was of the same opinion until I had to install crown molding in a medium-sized bathroom.  The compressor, hoses and electrical wires were a headache.  It only lasted for a short while as my chronically problematic Porter Cable 15 gage angle nailer was acting up again, shooting two nails in each hole.

I bought the Milwaukee that same day.  The net result, absent the compressor, hose, and electrical, the Milwaukee seemed smaller, and certainly more manageable. 

My P-C nailer is 20 years old, and I'm pretty sure it is just as heavy as the Milwaukee.  I am only running the standard 2.0 battery though.  Larger batteries will make it heavier and less maneuverable.