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Offline GoingMyWay

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Re: Milwaukee M12 23 Gauge Pin Nailer
« Reply #30 on: March 01, 2021, 09:17 AM »
Tool Nut uploaded 2 short M12 23 Gauge Pin Nailer promotional videos this morning:




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Offline Packard

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Re: Milwaukee M12 23 Gauge Pin Nailer
« Reply #31 on: March 01, 2021, 09:55 AM »
I have the 15 gage angle nailer and the 18 gage pin nailer from Milwaukee. 

Does anyone know if there is any current draw when I leave the unit in the "on" condition but am not firing nails?  I seem to forget to turn it off frequently (though I am getting better lately).

Both have been a god-send when working in a tight bathroom.  I don't have room for the compressor in the bathroom and I cannot do some of the work with the door open.  Without the battery-powered nailer, I would have had to remove the door from the hinges. 

Both work well.  The 15 gage surprisingly is lighter than my old Porter-Cable 15 gage angle nailer (which was not very good even when it was new and once again needed repairs so I just replaced it with the Milwaukee).

I would not hesitate to buy the 23 gage, except that I have a 23 gage and almost never use it.

For the few times I do need it, I find that a brad pusher works just as well.


Offline builderbob

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Re: Milwaukee M12 23 Gauge Pin Nailer
« Reply #32 on: March 02, 2021, 10:33 AM »
I keep forgetting to turn off the battery on my Milwaukee 18 gage pin nailer.  Does anyone know if there is current draw when not actually shooting nails?
The nailer has an auto shut off after a period of rest. I can’t imagine the drain to be much if any.
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Offline Packard

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Re: Milwaukee M12 23 Gauge Pin Nailer
« Reply #33 on: March 02, 2021, 11:06 AM »
Thanks for that information about the auto-shutoff.  I will be able to sleep better tonight. [big grin]

Offline JimH2

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Re: Milwaukee M12 23 Gauge Pin Nailer
« Reply #34 on: March 02, 2021, 11:24 AM »
21 gauge is the magic one for me. Pinner is never quite adequate and 18 gauge is a bit much.

Offline Imemiter

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Re: Milwaukee M12 23 Gauge Pin Nailer
« Reply #35 on: March 02, 2021, 12:36 PM »
Thanks for that information about the auto-shutoff.  I will be able to sleep better tonight. [big grin]

I've got a Senco that'll run out if left on. But it takes all day so the drain can't be much.
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Offline Packard

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Re: Milwaukee M12 23 Gauge Pin Nailer
« Reply #36 on: March 04, 2021, 03:09 PM »
I just got a email from the Toolnut, and the 23 gage pin nailer is available for "pre-order".



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Offline squall_line

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Re: Milwaukee M12 23 Gauge Pin Nailer
« Reply #37 on: March 04, 2021, 06:31 PM »
Dear diary:  Today I learned what a Brad Pusher was.  My thumb wept for joy and I think the hammer smirked at me.  Attaching the back panels to the bookcase should go much easier when the time comes.

Offline hdv

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Re: Milwaukee M12 23 Gauge Pin Nailer
« Reply #38 on: March 05, 2021, 07:08 AM »
I am not really a fan of Ikea (far from it), but whenever you are in the neighbourhood of one drop by their sales corner. Often they have a box with spare parts. Look in there to see if there are spare nail holders in it. These are included with any of their products that have a back panel that must be nailed to the carcass. You can take them for free and they are quite handy.


Offline Packard

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Re: Milwaukee M12 23 Gauge Pin Nailer
« Reply #39 on: March 05, 2021, 08:32 AM »
Dear diary:  Today I learned what a Brad Pusher was.  My thumb wept for joy and I think the hammer smirked at me.  Attaching the back panels to the bookcase should go much easier when the time comes.

As a rule I can push a brad all the way home going through 1/4" back panel and going into plywood, poplar or pine.  Not so with oak and maple.  On those hardwoods I have to finish driving the nail with a hammer.  I can generally push in about half way.  The brad pusher will not set the nails below the surface.  I have to use a nailset for that.  For reasons that escape me, I enjoy using a nailset.

They never seem to break, but periodically I misplace them.  I never pay more than $10.00 for them and I see that Great Neck saw still sells them (that is the brand I use) for about $10.00.

I don't know what is the advantage of the $50.00 versions.  I will not be buying one of them.

You are not likely to find these at your local hardware stores.  Amazon.com carries them.

I mostly use it for attaching trim.  For about 20 nails it does not pay to setup my pneumatic nailer.  I now have an 18 gage Milwaukee battery-powered nailer and that is always "at the ready" so I may be using the brad pusher less often.

Also, for panel backs I generally use a narrow crown stapler.  It holds onto the 1/4" ply better than a head on a brad.

Offline FestitaMakool

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Re: Milwaukee M12 23 Gauge Pin Nailer
« Reply #40 on: March 05, 2021, 08:49 AM »
I am not really a fan of Ikea (far from it), but whenever you are in the neighbourhood of one drop by their sales corner. Often they have a box with spare parts. Look in there to see if there are spare nail holders in it. These are included with any of their products that have a back panel that must be nailed to the carcass. You can take them for free and they are quite handy.

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Yup, these are handy to have, keeping a couple at hand here as well.
“Thumb’s caretaker”?  [wink]
On another note, I keep large diameter flat head short screws as stock to aid back panels from IKEA... it has proven much more holding power..

BTW, have just bought a never used Makita pin nailer (US: XTP02Z) at a private sale.
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Offline Packard

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Re: Milwaukee M12 23 Gauge Pin Nailer
« Reply #41 on: March 05, 2021, 08:56 AM »
In the world of RTA (ready to assemble) furniture, Ikea is a technology leader.  They are a major sponsor for the industry organization and they sponsor testing of various types of assembly systems. 

They are also the real pioneer of wordless assembly instructions and they still do that better than almost all other manufacturers.

Offline hdv

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Re: Milwaukee M12 23 Gauge Pin Nailer
« Reply #42 on: March 05, 2021, 01:44 PM »
Going by the many many (not always meant to be) jokes about their assembly guides, I am not sure I agree with that last part of your statement...   [cool]

Offline bidn

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Re: Milwaukee M12 23 Gauge Pin Nailer
« Reply #43 on: September 20, 2022, 05:01 AM »
I own the Milwaukee M18 18G and love it.
Here in Europe, I have been waiting all the time for M12 23G version, but it is still nowhere to be seen, not even on Milwaukeetools .eu site.
And even in the US they seem difficult to find.

Would someone have more information? Are the tool shipments stuck somewhere? Or would there be a new model coming?

Offline Crispy

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Re: Milwaukee M12 23 Gauge Pin Nailer
« Reply #44 on: September 20, 2022, 08:59 AM »
I own the Milwaukee M18 18G and love it.
Here in Europe, I have been waiting all the time for M12 23G version, but it is still nowhere to be seen, not even on Milwaukeetools .eu site.
And even in the US they seem difficult to find.

Would someone have more information? Are the tool shipments stuck somewhere? Or would there be a new model coming?

I am assuming im allowed to say - Ebay is your friend. [big grin]

I got jack of waiting for the Milwaukee nailer to be released and found a reputable seller in the US via a google search earlier this year.
Took like 10 days via DHL to Darwin, Ive had stuff from Australian states take almost twice as long to get here.

Today we still cant buy them off the shelf in any tool store here or from Milwaukee in australia, but the Milwaukee electrical cable stapler is available here......go figure.

Offline bidn

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Re: Milwaukee M12 23 Gauge Pin Nailer
« Reply #45 on: September 23, 2022, 03:10 AM »
I am assuming im allowed to say - Ebay is your friend. [big grin]
I got jack of waiting for the Milwaukee nailer to be released and found a reputable seller in the US via a google search earlier this year.
Took like 10 days via DHL to Darwin, Ive had stuff from Australian states take almost twice as long to get here.
Today we still cant buy them off the shelf in any tool store here or from Milwaukee in australia, but the Milwaukee electrical cable stapler is available here......go figure.

Thank you very much,
I have followed your advice and ordered one on Ebay.
Would you know which pin nails work fine (no clogging) with the Milwaukee 23G nailer?
(I don't see that Milwaukee sells any under their own trade name).
I am especially interested in stainless steel ones.

Offline grobkuschelig

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Re: Milwaukee M12 23 Gauge Pin Nailer
« Reply #46 on: September 24, 2022, 12:29 AM »
I used Grex Pins and „Rapid“ brand ones (both from amazonDE). But no Stainless so far.

I had the 23ga shipped over from a friend.

Offline JimH2

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Re: Milwaukee M12 23 Gauge Pin Nailer
« Reply #47 on: September 24, 2022, 09:49 AM »
I want to like the various battery powered nailers, but their weight is too much for me for long periods of use. This nailer would be the exception,  but I've never liked the 23 gauge pin nailers because the nail is just too small. Senco has a 21-gauge that use regularly and it has quite a bit more holding power with only a marginally larger nail head.

Offline Bob D.

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Re: Milwaukee M12 23 Gauge Pin Nailer
« Reply #48 on: September 24, 2022, 01:50 PM »
I see the Milwaukee 23Ga pin nailer (bare tool) is $229 at Home Depot in the store.
But if you order online and have it sent to you or to your store for pickup you can get
the same tool with a 2.0A battery for the same price and shipping is free IIRC.
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Offline rst

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Re: Milwaukee M12 23 Gauge Pin Nailer
« Reply #49 on: September 24, 2022, 02:10 PM »
I've been using air mailers and staplers since the seventies and have everything from ancient heavy duty staplers and headless pinners form the late sixties to current issue Grex.  I had a Senco tiny air compressor since they were first released, kept in Sys V along with hose with attic lid for accessories.  When that Senco died I had resigned myself to M18v Milwaukee as I had a lot of that equipment and batteries so I bought the 15ga brad nailer and it is brilliant.  I was not thrilled about buying the equivalents to my air equipment.  It was happy days when Milwaukee brought out the M18 air compressor.

Offline bidn

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Re: Milwaukee M12 23 Gauge Pin Nailer
« Reply #50 on: June 04, 2023, 05:57 AM »
I used Grex Pins and „Rapid“ brand ones (both from amazonDE). But no Stainless so far.

I had the 23ga shipped over from a friend.

Thank you,
 I had forgotten to thank you, I had ordered the stainless versions of the Grex pins from amazon com (even with shipping costs, etc. they were cheaper than from amazon de).

I wanted stainless pins mainly for the following reason:
- When their head is hit, or they are sunk into hardwood (oak), the galvanisation surface treatment is often undone, exposing them to rust (an issue in humid weather or in oak). And 23 gauge pins are so thin, that if they rust they lose their strength. So better for the long term.
Alos I thought that because they are so thin, they could bend more easily, it would be better to have stainless ones (harder).

Offline bidn

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Re: Milwaukee M12 23 Gauge Pin Nailer
« Reply #51 on: June 04, 2023, 05:59 AM »
I have been thinking about why the lovely 23 gauge 12 volt Milwaukee nailer cannot be sold outside the USA unlike their other nailers or unlike their 12 V stappler.

I think this is probably because this machine can shoot without contact (no need to press the machine against the wood), which is forbidden in the EU and many countries.

Shooting without contact is actually useful when you don't want them to fully enter the wood, so you can bend the nail's extruding head (e.g. to hold a glass cover on a frame), by shooting at small distance (about 1 cm, without contact, though one should keep in mind that some proportion of the pins will not enter the wood at all but will instead bounce and fly away).