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Offline jussi

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Milwaukee Install Driver vs CXS
« on: August 18, 2020, 11:01 PM »
Anyone have both and can do a comparison? 

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Offline ear3

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Re: Milwaukee Install Driver vs CXS
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2020, 11:30 PM »
I've had the Milwaukee for about a month now, after having used the CXS for quite a few years.  You get the extra offset chuck with the Milwaukee, which the CXS doesn't have (though the small form factor of the CXS means you have less occasion to need one than with a larger drill).  Battery life is better on the Milwaukee, unsurprisngly since it uses newer Lithium batteries and has a brushless motor.  It has more power than the CXS, though this is not really a factor for me since the point of the smaller drill is to NOT overdrive stuff.  Glad they followed Festool's lead with the on-board bit storage as well.  I have yet to systematically explore the variable torque on the Milwaukee and how it compares to the CXS.

The one annoying thing about the Milwaukee is the placement of the forward/reverse button on the top of the drill, as opposed to the traditional switch/bar located next to the trigger.  Maybe if I had grown up with this design I would not be bothered by it, but at this point it is muscle memory to try to switch modes next to the trigger, and I have to fumble every time I switch modes on the Milwaukee.  Even if the motion becomes natural, if you're drilling in a tight space you can't necessarily see the indicator for which mode it's in and have to pull the trigger to find out, and if the space is really tight you would have to angle the drill to get your thumb to press the button on the top of the machine.  I think Milwaukee probably got carried away with the idea of redesigning the drill, and so changed this feature just for the sake of changing it.  I don't think the world was clamoring for that change, however. 

Overall though it's a great little drill.
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Offline cpw

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Re: Milwaukee Install Driver vs CXS
« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2020, 06:40 AM »
Anyone have both and can do a comparison?
I have the Bosch Flexiclick and a CXS.  I do find myself using the Bosch more; and occasionally the offset chuck which is unavailable on the CXS.  The Centrotec chuck instead of a standard hex fell flat for me.

Offline johnyhuh

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Re: Milwaukee Install Driver vs CXS
« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2020, 03:34 PM »
I also have the Milwaukee Installer and so far it has served me well. The way I grip is to have the index finger along the top of the driver and the middle finger in the trigger. Based on this grip, the placement of the forward/reverse button makes sense and can be reachable. In the beginning, I was a bit perplexed why Milwaukee decided to have the button at the top rear of the driver. More I used, more it made sense.


Just my 2¢
« Last Edit: August 20, 2020, 12:31 PM by johnyhuh »
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Offline jussi

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Re: Milwaukee Install Driver vs CXS
« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2020, 11:17 PM »
Thanks.  I needed a 2nd drill (already have a cxs) and was trying to decide between another cxs or the Milwaukee.  HD had a really good deal for the Milwaukee install drill (with batt and charger) + ratchet for $199 and I couldn't resist. 
« Last Edit: August 19, 2020, 11:23 PM by jussi »

Offline deepcreek

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Re: Milwaukee Install Driver vs CXS
« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2020, 11:18 PM »
The Milwaukee "CXS" has become my go to drill/driver.  I have a half dozen various M12's and it's always the one I reach for.

I don't find the location of the forward/reverse button to be an issue.  In fact, I like being able to glance down and confirm that I have it set to the correct direction.
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Offline hdv

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Re: Milwaukee Install Driver vs CXS
« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2020, 05:23 AM »
I can't comment on the CXS, as I don't have that one. But to me the Milwaukee is a pleasure to use. Plenty of power for the type of jobs it was made for. A good collection of chucks (although I had to get used to the fact that the stubby one has a very deep fitting for hex bits). I don't feel the positioning of the forward/reverse button is a hindrance. I always had Makitas and liked their trigger behaviour. I had read some negative messages about the Milwaukee in that department. But in practise I think it does quite well. All in all I am quite satisfied with it.

Offline Richard/RMW

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Re: Milwaukee Install Driver vs CXS
« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2020, 12:10 PM »
I also have the Milwaukee Installer and so far it has served me well. The way I grip is to have the index finger along the top of the driver and the middle finger in the trigger. Based on this grip, the placement of the forward/reverse button makes sense and can be reachable. In the beginning, I was a bit perplexed why Milwaukee decided to have the button at the top rear of the driver. Most I used, more it made sense.


Just my 2¢

I had the CSX and replaced it with the Milwaukee to get away from Centrotec. Ditto I use the grip @johnyhuh describes and it works great. Selecting F/R is easy with my thumb.

FWIW I believe the Milwaukee has a bit more power than the CSX.

Also a huge plus is the range of M12 tools, their small die grinders are one of my most-used tools.

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Offline JG

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Re: Milwaukee Install Driver vs CXS
« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2020, 02:31 PM »
I have them both as well.  The Milwaukee is more powerful and has the offset tool which the CXS does not.  Milwaukee also has so many tools compatible with this battery pack and it works with the standard hex bit system.  Like others I do not like the reverse switch on the Milwaukee.  Even using your thumb to change the setting, it is not simple as one would think.  The other issue with the Milwaukee is the battery. If you use one of the smaller batteries, the drill will stand upright (depending on the bit placed in the tool).  If you use one of the larger batteries with he square base, the drill will fall forward and not stay upright.  The price is nice on this tool.  It is comfortable and operates nicely.

The Festool; however, is so much smoother and comfortable to use.  I end up grabbing the CXS drill for almost all of my smaller needs. I will not use the CXS to hog out a lot of material.  The Milwaukee can handle so much more.  The trigger on the CXS is so smooth that I find rarely cam out when driving smaller screws. If I ended up having to sell all my Festool tools, I would probably keep the CXS to the very end.

Both are nice well built tools.  To me its more of a personal choice.