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Offline Mark Katz

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MFT Workarea Lighting
« on: January 10, 2022, 10:36 AM »
My MFT is in an area of my workshop where the overhead lights are almost 10' above the floor and can't go lower without being in the path of the garage door when it's open. Actually, even worse, if I'm working with the garage door open, the door blocks the overhead lights completely. I've tried various methods to attache work lights to various points around the shop but always end up with light in all the wrong places.

What I think would work for me is a light mounted on a post which I could quickly attach to the extrusions of the MFT with a gooseneck or scissor mechanism to allow me to move the light around over the work surface to where it's needed.

Has anyone done something like this that can share the makes/models of the lights and mounting mechanisms they used? I'm sure I could make a post which attaches to the MFT but I'm hoping to just buy the rest.

Thanks, Mark

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Re: MFT Workarea Lighting
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2022, 10:56 AM »
I use this dog/plate set-up from Lee Valley.  I purchased as one unit a while back.  I see they're now sold separately.  I couple these with Dr. Prepare LED work lights with magnetic bases.


Offline rst

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Re: MFT Workarea Lighting
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2022, 11:15 AM »
I hung barn door tracks under and across my 9' overhead door to hang my Yakima box and canoe from and used boat winches to be able to drop onto my 4 Runner.  You could do the same to hang lights.

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Re: MFT Workarea Lighting
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2022, 11:51 AM »
I have a bigger diy MFT bench but I converted it to a small spay booth by bending up some EMT into some frames and attached visqueen to the EMT with those greenhouse clamps.  I had some brackets on the ends made from those saddle clamps made to secure EMT to a wall, I shimmed the saddle out a little with some pieces of edge banding so that the EMT frame would slip into the saddle when needed and could still pull out easily.  I ended up wanting more light for spraying so I just laid some 4' LED lights on the top frame.  Depends on how complicated you want it but I use the 4' LED lights from costco they are light weight and have a few different mounting options.  I would think a piece of 3/4 emt bent into and "L" shape one leg vertical "post" clamped to the corner of the bench and the other leg overhanging the bench with the light attached to it.  It would pivot if needed and if you have a larger MFT you could put one at each rear corner.  The lights weigh practically nothing so even 1/2" EMT would probably work but 3/4" would be more than enough. If you use 1/2 maybe a 80°-85° bend to allow for some slight sag.   
« Last Edit: January 10, 2022, 11:55 AM by afish »

Offline Mark Katz

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Re: MFT Workarea Lighting
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2022, 12:01 PM »
I use this dog/plate set-up from Lee Valley.  I purchased as one unit a while back.  I see they're now sold separately.  I couple these with Dr. Prepare LED work lights with magnetic bases.

That Lee Valley plate and post combo looks really useful so ordered them. I'll try it with my current light which included a magnetic base but I've been using the clamp instead. If that turns out to not be high enough to get light in the right places, I'll look into that Dr. Prepare light. Thanks for the lead!

Re: MFT Workarea Lighting
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2022, 12:59 PM »
You're welcome.  Good luck!

Offline guybo

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Re: MFT Workarea Lighting
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2022, 01:13 PM »
coming soon [big grin]

Offline gwendal

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Re: MFT Workarea Lighting
« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2022, 01:28 PM »
I 3d-printed a connector between the lamp post and the table.

Offline Mark Katz

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Re: MFT Workarea Lighting
« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2022, 04:58 PM »
I 3d-printed a connector between the lamp post and the table.

Good idea! That's a pretty fancy lamp for a workshop!

Offline Bert Vanderveen

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Re: MFT Workarea Lighting
« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2022, 05:18 PM »
For local illumination I have an IKEA articulated desk lamp. Lives in a hole I drilled just outside the area occupied by the stop profile. BTW that hole is not a 20 mm one...
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Offline elfick

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Re: MFT Workarea Lighting
« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2022, 05:55 PM »
I knew I had seen these before but it took me way too long to find them...

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Offline elfick

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Re: MFT Workarea Lighting
« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2022, 05:56 PM »

Offline dwillis

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Re: MFT Workarea Lighting
« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2022, 06:29 PM »
I built my own light that clamps to the MFT. The design for this light was stolen (with pride) from Adam Savage's Tested YouTube channel (Adam Savage's One Day Builds: New Workbench Lights!). All the parts were sourced from Amazon and are listed on the Tested YouTube site. These lights have a battery backup and have adjustable color balance.


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Offline Mark Katz

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Re: MFT Workarea Lighting
« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2022, 11:54 AM »
Ooops, that was the Canada store, here's the one for the US:
https://www.leevalley.com/en-us/shop/hardware/project-supplies/metal-parts/70534-lamp-bushing?item=05G4803
Oooh, I wish I had known about that while ordering the plate and post mentioned above by sawdustinmyshoes (which have already arrived). Just added to my Lee Valley cart for the next time I order. Thanks.

Offline Mark Katz

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Re: MFT Workarea Lighting
« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2022, 11:57 AM »
I built my own light that clamps to the MFT. The design for this light was stolen (with pride) from Adam Savage's Tested YouTube channel (Adam Savage's One Day Builds: New Workbench Lights!).
All the parts were sourced from Amazon and are listed on the Tested YouTube site. These lights have a battery backup and have adjustable color balance.

Another good idea! Thanks

Offline mino

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Re: MFT Workarea Lighting
« Reply #15 on: January 14, 2022, 10:49 PM »
How about getting a boom arm for your CT vac and attaching a light on it ?

Just a thougth ... will probably try that when getting my new worktable build (with integrated boom arm).
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Offline dupe

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Re: MFT Workarea Lighting
« Reply #16 on: January 15, 2022, 07:44 AM »
This light kit mounts to interior side of garage door.

https://garagedoorlighting.com/photo-gallery/

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Re: MFT Workarea Lighting
« Reply #17 on: January 15, 2022, 08:27 AM »
I put LED tape on each of my garage door braces similar to whats pictured.  It works good when door is up and blocking the ceiling lights but I have a 7 foot door. Also comes in handy when the door is down to add some low angle light for finishing.  Still think a boom arm made from EMT is cheap and effective and doesnt use up any real estate on the surface of the MFT.  Those loc-line style lights are cool too.



Offline Mark Katz

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Re: MFT Workarea Lighting
« Reply #20 on: January 20, 2022, 01:31 AM »
This light kit mounts to interior side of garage door.

https://garagedoorlighting.com/photo-gallery/

That's a neat idea for your use but, honestly, my doors aren't raised that often. I'm still pursuing lighting just for my MFT work area.


Offline acer66

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Re: MFT Workarea Lighting
« Reply #22 on: January 20, 2022, 06:49 AM »
This light kit mounts to interior side of garage door.

https://garagedoorlighting.com/photo-gallery/

That's a neat idea for your use but, honestly, my doors aren't raised that often. I'm still pursuing lighting just for my MFT work area.

Could work if your table is in front of the closed  door.

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Re: MFT Workarea Lighting
« Reply #23 on: January 20, 2022, 11:16 AM »
Could work if your table is in front of the closed  door.

Unfortunately, power is supplied to those LED's ONLY when the door is open.  [sad]  It'd be nice if it was switchable.

I like afish's idea with some LED tape applied to the bottom of the door tracks, add a driver and a switch box and you're good.

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Re: MFT Workarea Lighting
« Reply #24 on: January 20, 2022, 07:53 PM »
I use this light with the bushing insert to an MFT 20mm hole.  Works great and I like the magnifier.

https://www.leevalley.com/en-us/shop/home/lighting/worklights/76037-led-magnifying-bench-lamp?item=17J3030

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Re: MFT Workarea Lighting
« Reply #25 on: January 20, 2022, 09:44 PM »
I like afish's idea with some LED tape applied to the bottom of the door tracks, add a driver and a switch box and you're good.

And I'm very serious about this solution...an LED driver, some LED tape and a switch box...incredibly cheap.

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Re: MFT Workarea Lighting
« Reply #26 on: January 21, 2022, 05:59 AM »
Just to clarify I didnt put the LED on the "tracks" where I live we have these large braces that run horizontally for hurricane protection.  Thats what I stuck the tape to otherwise just stick them to the door like the kit.  What I did looks very similar to the kit but you can buy the parts much cheaper.  I did use the waterproof lights even though they dont "need" to be water proof but they have a nice thick protective rubber layer over them.  This helps protect from getting hit or something. I did this many years ago since I had a few rolls of the LED tape from another project and was trying to find a use for them.

I wanted to be able to use the lights when the door is opened or closed and didnt want to have a cord reel hanging. So I just ran some extension cord along the tracks and left a plug end near the fully open/closed position.  I mounted the LED driver directly to the upper right corner of the door and put a short pigtail on it that could reach either of the 2 plugs.  This does require me to manually plug it in if needed but I have lots of light normally so its not very often I use them.  But when the door is open it blocks a good amount of light and when finishing it provides a good source of low angle light with the door down.

In case you want the automatic version the switch they use is is called a Dakota magnum shooter they are about 20 bucks. You will need to fashion your own bracket to hold it but it looks like you will save yourself a nice down payment towards some festool stuff.

DAKOTA MAGNUM SHOOTER
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Re: MFT Workarea Lighting
« Reply #27 on: January 21, 2022, 06:36 AM »
How about getting a boom arm for your CT vac and attaching a light on it ?

Just a thougth ... will probably try that when getting my new worktable build (with integrated boom arm).

I had mentioned this early on but in a long winded version and it was probably confusing. 

Im not sure what a festool boom arm cost but Im sure its more than $10 bucks for a piece of EMT conduit.  If you wanted more dedicated task lighting this would be a good method.  You can simply bend a piece of EMT to the size and shape you want (similar to a boom arm) and attach a LED light of your choice to it even LED tape would work.  then just make a bracket to attach to the bench. Im actually surprised more people dont make their own boom arms from EMT   

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Re: MFT Workarea Lighting
« Reply #28 on: January 21, 2022, 10:09 AM »
1. Just to clarify I didnt put the LED on the "tracks" where I live we have these large braces that run horizontally for hurricane protection.  Thats what I stuck the tape to otherwise just stick them to the door like the kit.  What I did looks very similar to the kit but you can buy the parts much cheaper. 

2. I did use the waterproof lights even though they dont "need" to be water proof but they have a nice thick protective rubber layer over them.  This helps protect from getting hit or something. I did this many years ago since I had a few rolls of the LED tape from another project and was trying to find a use for them.

3. I wanted to be able to use the lights when the door is opened or closed and didnt want to have a cord reel hanging. So I just ran some extension cord along the tracks and left a plug end near the fully open/closed position.  I mounted the LED driver directly to the upper right corner of the door and put a short pigtail on it that could reach either of the 2 plugs.  This does require me to manually plug it in if needed but I have lots of light normally so its not very often I use them.  But when the door is open it blocks a good amount of light and when finishing it provides a good source of low angle light with the door down.

4. In case you want the automatic version the switch they use is is called a Dakota magnum shooter they are about 20 bucks. You will need to fashion your own bracket to hold it but it looks like you will save yourself a nice down payment towards some festool stuff.

DAKOTA MAGNUM SHOOTER

1. I'd mount 2 LED strips on the radius of the garage door channel about 30º off of vertical. That way I'd be using the steel as a heat sink.




2. I've used waterproof LED's in the past and have had mixed results. I really had an issue with them retaining too much heat and burning the silicone covering.




3. I'd also like to be able to use the LED's whether the door is up or down. The garagedoorlighting.com group designed their solution for the California climate...the LED's work only when the garage door is open. Unfortunately, they locked themselves out of an additional 80% of the potential market.
I'd mount an electrical box nearby, mount the driver/drivers inside the box along with a remotely controlled switch that could be operated via a separate push button switch or my iPhone.  I'm a fan of the Insteon product line.




4. Thanks for the info on the Magnum Shooters, I haven't seen them before but they're worth looking into.  [smile]

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