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Offline schneems

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Drill Press Dust Extraction
« on: January 10, 2020, 02:47 PM »
I'm working on installing a drill press table and I've been thinking about dust as I've got a small shop. I see that Rockler and Lee Valley have a drill press fence that has integrated dust collection. Are these any good? Worth the money? The alternative seems to be some custom or home/made setup. If you've gone that route what lessons learned can you share? Are you happy with your setup?

Thanks in advance!

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Offline rvieceli

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Re: Drill Press Dust Extraction
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2020, 03:18 PM »
I'm particularly fond of the Loc-Line Vac kits. I think to be most effective the extraction has to be as close to source as possible. The Loc-line stuff is easily adjustable for position and the height of the work piece.

https://www.amazon.com/Loc-Line-80813-Shop-Vacuum-Orange/dp/B01LYEMPY1/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=locline&qid=1578687210&sr=8-1

Ron

Offline rvieceli

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Re: Drill Press Dust Extraction
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2020, 03:21 PM »
Here it is set up on my press. The nozzle.can get very close to the contact point of the bit


Offline Cheese

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Re: Drill Press Dust Extraction
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2020, 06:57 PM »
I have a setup similar to Ron's. I can extend the hose or shorten the hose to get the nozzle as close to the work piece as possible.

I initially tried using a built-in port in the fence, but because I frequently machine metal items the nozzle really needs to be very close to the item I'm working on.

The bracket's made from 18 mm Baltic birch and it's held in place with 2 Mag Switches.




Offline kevinculle

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Re: Drill Press Dust Extraction
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2020, 07:19 PM »
With a drill press you will find that the chip flow varies depending on the type of bit and workpiece.  Forstners, twist drills, holesaws, etc all have different patterns for where they throw chips so having a close coupled vac inlet that you can easily position is key.

Offline Kevin C.

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Re: Drill Press Dust Extraction
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2020, 09:35 PM »
I have the Drill-nado. Looked like a gimmick, but got it years ago after their kickstarter. Works well, and since they have gone to a clear shroud. They'll send the upgrade to you if you have the original.

Offline SRSemenza

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Re: Drill Press Dust Extraction
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2020, 12:01 AM »
 I have just been looking at the Loc Line and they also have the vac size in anti-static.

Seth

Offline ChuckM

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Re: Drill Press Dust Extraction
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2020, 12:53 PM »
I have the drillnado but it couldn't be fitted onto my bench drill press. It was 2 years ago...I will have to find time to see if I could install it. I bought it after a woodworking friend used it, and that was before I saw this review:

So I have had no actual experience with the gadget.

I have the Lee Valley drill press table but used the dust port on my bandsaw instead, because to use it, the two side fences need to be set apart. I prefer the fence to be closed like in one piece: https://www.lumberjocks.com/projects/158322

By the way, has anyone had experience with this line of vac? https://www.pulsebac.com/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI6M7snpH85gIV_Q6tBh3gFgzMEAEYASAAEgIlHvD_BwE
« Last Edit: January 11, 2020, 02:34 PM by ChuckM »

Offline Birdhunter

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Re: Drill Press Dust Extraction
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2020, 01:06 AM »
I’m pretty simple minded. I just clamp the workpiece, hold the shop vac hose next to the drill bit, and drill away. This gets most of the debris. I can immediately see which way the debris is going and move the nozzle appropriately.
Birdhunter

Offline dmdjameschen

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Re: Drill Press Dust Extraction
« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2020, 02:38 PM »
I am planning to attached a loc-line hose

( The 23" Loc-Line hose is a series of rigid plastic cuffs that interlock and swivel, making an articulating hose (minimum inside bending radius of 4") that you can customize to length and that holds any position rigidly. Sold in 18 sections that connect to form a tube 23" long.) 

directly to a Festool mini dust extractor to use in dentistry to reduce extra oral aerosol. 

The loc-line will need to come off the Festool machine directly without going through the included hose.

Can anyone tell me what I need to get to accomplish this?  Thank you.


Offline dmdjameschen

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Re: Drill Press Dust Extraction
« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2020, 02:47 PM »
Would like to attach

https://www.loc-line.com/product/80813/

Loc-line hose to a Festool mini dust extractor directly without using the included hose.

Similar to how the loc-line comes off a shop vacuum directly but I was told by a Festool dealer that the measurements are in metrics so he doesn't know which attachment can connect the two.

Thank you.


Offline rvieceli

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Re: Drill Press Dust Extraction
« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2020, 03:31 PM »
@dmdjameschen  here’s the piece you need for the 2.5 inch lock-line vac pieces you are talking about.

https://www.loc-line.com/product/81210-shop-vacuum-adapter-pack-of-1/

81210 vacuum canister adapter

It fits directly into a Festool vac or any other standard shop vac. The loc-line modules then snap into the end of the adapter.

Not a Festool vac but a Festool hose  [wink]



Adapter



Ron

Offline KelleyCrafts

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Re: Drill Press Dust Extraction
« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2020, 03:57 PM »
This loc line one looks great! I think I need this for the drill press and maybe another for the bandsaw, when sanding on the lathe.....lots of possibilities.

The question is, what are you hooking the other end to? 4" DC hose or can the tool end of a Festool CT slide into it? I have a CT26 as a mobile vac in the shop to clean up my messes. Wouldn't be bad to just shove this in the end of the loc line as I need to. I can use the 4" big DC hose too if I have to. Does it work with a CT hose somehow?

Offline jeffinsgf

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Re: Drill Press Dust Extraction
« Reply #13 on: April 17, 2020, 04:05 PM »
Kelly,

You'll need a 50mm or 2 inch standard shop vacuum hose instead of the smaller 27mm or 36mm regular Festool hose.

The cool thing is, absolutely any shop vacuum hose will fit the Festool.

My favorite for these type applications is this:

https://www.oneida-air.com/2-5-inch-5-5-foot-wire-reinforced-vacuum-hose

Outstanding quality hose and good fittings for less than $20. I wish they sold it a little longer, but that's a minor complaint.

If you want to connect to a DC line, Loc-Line has an adapter to go up to 3"...so you'll need another one to go from 3 to 4.



Offline KelleyCrafts

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Re: Drill Press Dust Extraction
« Reply #14 on: April 17, 2020, 04:12 PM »
@jeffinsgf Thanks!

I only have one standard shop vac in the shop and it collects metal chips and doesn't move around. It's sitting under the metal lathe cabinet and can reach the metal mill and grinders so that's all I have for a standard shop vac. The rest is festool. Not a huge deal. I have at least one 2.5" to 4" adapter laying around the shop and a full size DC hose I take from machine to machine as I need it. I'll use that, should be fine.

Thanks for the reply and the info! I'll start with one at the drill press and see how it goes.


Offline jeffinsgf

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Re: Drill Press Dust Extraction
« Reply #15 on: April 17, 2020, 04:54 PM »
Kelly,

Just to be clear, 2-1/2 shop vac hose will fit the Festool vac. You can use the Festool vac with Loc-Line, you just can't use the hose that came with it.

Offline KelleyCrafts

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Re: Drill Press Dust Extraction
« Reply #16 on: April 17, 2020, 04:55 PM »
@jeffinsgf

Thanks for clearing that up. I never really thought about a regular hose on the CT. That makes it easier. Thank you!