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Offline Bob D.

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Re: Kreg Adaptive Cut System
« Reply #30 on: April 07, 2019, 06:54 AM »
"Accept [Except?] the quality of some of their accessories for 3/4 inch dogs are passable at best"

May be but the quality (or lack of) doesn't change my point, they want you to buy their accessories and making them different (3/4" vice 20mm) takes all those better quality dogs out of the running and leaves their 3/4" dogs and such as your only choice (or one of very few).
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Offline Steven Owen

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Re: Kreg Adaptive Cut System
« Reply #31 on: April 08, 2019, 11:55 PM »
"Accept [Except?] the quality of some of their accessories for 3/4 inch dogs are passable at best"

May be but the quality (or lack of) doesn't change my point, they want you to buy their accessories and making them different (3/4" vice 20mm) takes all those better quality dogs out of the running and leaves their 3/4" dogs and such as your only choice (or one of very few).

This is big turn-off with Kreg’s Adaptive cut system.  It would have been more attractive if it was built on an open system.   
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Offline Kafarn

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Re: Kreg Adaptive Cut System
« Reply #32 on: April 16, 2019, 12:25 AM »
I asked the following questions before this system was publicly announced and here are the replies from Kreg:

Q: Is your guide rail (track) compatible with other brands of track saws?
A: No, the 62” Guide Track is designed for use with the Kreg Plunge Saw.
 
Q: Are the accessories, like the parallel guides and rip guides, compatible with other brands’ guide rails?
A: Kreg has designed these accessories for primary use with the Kreg 62” Guide Track and Kreg Plunge Saw.
 
Q: Can other brands of guide rails be attached to the project table?
A: No, the Project Table is designed for use with the Kreg 62” Guide Track and Kreg Plunge Saw

Q: What’s the diameter of the holes in the table, ¾” or 20mm?
A: The diameter of the holes in the table are ¾”

I asked Doug to check the demo unit when the rep came to the store. He said that you cannot use another brand's saw on the Kreg track because, as I recall, it would cut the track because it's wider than tracks from Festool, Makita, etc. Also, as I recall, you cannot attach another brands rail to the table with the stock brackets from Kreg. Doug is on vacation currently, so I cannot verify my memory of the compatibility.

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Offline txbonds

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Re: Kreg Adaptive Cut System
« Reply #33 on: July 12, 2019, 02:36 PM »
I’m late to this party but couldn’t the dog holes be reamed out slightly to 20MM?  Seems like it would be easy enough to do in an mdf sacrificial top or am I missing something?

Offline RobBob

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Re: Kreg Adaptive Cut System
« Reply #34 on: July 12, 2019, 03:08 PM »
I think Lee Valley has 3/4" dogs.

Re: Kreg Adaptive Cut System
« Reply #35 on: February 22, 2020, 10:59 PM »
I got the Kreg table and legs, love it, very solid and love the extra size over the MFT - I felt the same way about the plastic miter gauge and adjustable stops - however I,m using a Festool TS 55R on a cut down 75” track (yep, it hurt to cut it) - then for a mister gauge I am using the aluminum/steel Festool 491588, Angle Unit - works perfect and way better than the plastic Kreg miter gauge (and a lot more $$ too). Milling new aluminum stops on my CNC

The Festool Angle unit will slide into the kreg table tracks? What about the hinge/brackets from festool, would they work on the Kreg table? I like the fact that you can swing the track out of the way. With Kreg, it seems you need to move the track entirely if you need it out of the way.

Offline Imemiter

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Re: Kreg Adaptive Cut System
« Reply #36 on: March 01, 2020, 01:11 PM »
I was looking for an MFT3 and saw one of these Kregs. The part that impressed me the most were the legs. They have a larger overall footprint than the MFT, almost four inches of height adjustment, diagonal brackets included, and sturdy wheeled storage assembly. The rest of the table didn't really do anything for me and the side rails wouldn't fit Festool clamps, so I bought the legs and bolted them onto a 55x34 piece of leftover MDO. Today I'm putting together an order of 8020 for the side rails and trying to choose between dog hole drilling methods.

Advice for anyone buying the legs separately: Take some measurements off an assembled table as the pdf instructions have no dimensions. That, or be prepared for a little head-scratching.   
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Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: Kreg Adaptive Cut System
« Reply #37 on: March 01, 2020, 03:10 PM »
I was looking for an MFT3 and saw one of these Kregs. The part that impressed me the most were the legs. They have a larger overall footprint than the MFT, almost four inches of height adjustment, diagonal brackets included, and sturdy wheeled storage assembly. The rest of the table didn't really do anything for me and the side rails wouldn't fit Festool clamps, so I bought the legs and bolted them onto a 55x34 piece of leftover MDO. Today I'm putting together an order of 8020 for the side rails and trying to choose between dog hole drilling methods.

Advice for anyone buying the legs separately: Take some measurements off an assembled table as the pdf instructions have no dimensions. That, or be prepared for a little head-scratching.

@Imemiter thanks for posting this warning but since you’re already done the head scratching and figured out what to do, how about posting your findings?

Offline Imemiter

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Re: Kreg Adaptive Cut System
« Reply #38 on: March 01, 2020, 08:33 PM »
@Imemiter thanks for posting this warning but since you’re already done the head scratching and figured out what to do, how about posting your findings?

It was one of those things where I spent more time looking for dimensions than it took to figure it out. But the distance between the top bar of the leg frame and the uppermost pivot on the diagonal brace is best determined by folding the legs flat. Any longer or shorter and the assembly wouldn't fold. That was a huge duh on my part.

The top bar of the right side set of legs (with the hand truck handles) can go any distance from the tables edge, but the wheel side top bar needs to be set 3" from the inside of the edge rail. Though I'm waiting to install the wheels until I get the 8020 installed.

Depending on how much the whole thing weighs I may never install the wheels. This is going to be my shop center/outfeed table. It occurred to me that if the Kreg top and accessories were as nicely built as the legs, I'd probably have bought the whole thing. But here again, the dog sizes and side rail t-slot weren't going to work with my stuff and I'm already all stocked up on Makita rail. That said, I'm loving these legs!

 
« Last Edit: March 01, 2020, 08:51 PM by Imemiter »
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Offline Ahmet Cemiloglu

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Re: Kreg Adaptive Cut System
« Reply #39 on: June 29, 2020, 12:37 AM »
First time posting, sorry for bumping up an old thread, but I thought it needed a closure.

1. Cut 118" Makita Guide Rail
I actually cut a 55-1/4" piece off to match my 55" Makita track's length. They can be attached to cut sheet material. Remaining piece is slighty longer than Kreg’s 62", and it’s OK.

If you own a Festool 75" Guide Rail, you don't really need to cut it. You can use it as it is if you don't mind the track sticking out from the sides. You'll simply ignore 2-1/4" distance suggestion during installation of the left side hinge, and stick it out long enough to allow wheeled transportation. The 75" rail would stick out quite a bit on the right side, so it's a face and body hazard. Better remove the track to transport the table.

2. Drill New 1/4" Holes to Hinges
This is a cosmetic fix. I don't see anyone here not doing it though. This helps flush fit the side flanges to the edge of the track so they don't stick out. The flanges are not mirrored during installation, they fold towards the same direction, so drill the holes exactly on the same location on both. 1/4" bit size centered 2.250" x 0.300" from the edges for Makita track. Festool owners need to do their own simple math.

3. Extend Notches for Additional Side Plate Adjustment
This allows Makita saw to cut exactly on the same location as the Kreg saw. There are two slots for the Kreg bench dogs between you and the track, they are used to square the track quickly for repeatable re-installation should you remove it for whatever reason.

That's it!

If you don't own a plunge saw, seriously consider the Kreg saw for the ACS table. It was out of stock nationwide for weeks, so I bought the Makita saw. Kreg saw lacks the motor technology and the quality in comparison, but it's feature packed, more so than the Makita XPS01Z. It's passive dust collection is shamelessly better than my track saw and CT MIDI combined.
« Last Edit: June 29, 2020, 10:30 AM by Ahmet Cemiloglu »