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Offline jussi

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Kreg ACS base on MFT?
« on: December 02, 2020, 09:06 AM »
Anyone know if it would be difficult (or has anyone tried) to attach the Kreg ACS Table base to an MFT?


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Offline afish

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Re: Kreg ACS base on MFT?
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2020, 10:26 AM »
no, but Im curious as to why not just use it as is.  Im not familiar with it but the video I just watched it looks pretty nice.  Well thought out with the ability to easily expand is nice I was also liking the look of the track mount but would need to see it in person to feel for any slop.  Im interested if anyone here has experience with it as a whole as well. 

Offline afish

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Re: Kreg ACS base on MFT?
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2020, 10:36 AM »
So, I just took a peak at it on Amazon and they have this photo there it looks like everything just attaches to the bottom with simple conduit type straps. Im sure the bracket at the wheels attaches to the inside of the aluminum extrusion but that should be easy to adapt to just about anything.  This interests me as I have been trying to make more room.  I like the idea of having folding tables that store quick and easy when not in use. I was originally thinking of doing my own spin on the chestnut folding MFT but might go this route. 

Offline afish

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Re: Kreg ACS base on MFT?
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2020, 10:47 AM »
The kreg table looks longer than a festool MFT so having room length wise for the legs to fold up seems like the biggest obstacle to me but I have not researched the length of either. That opinion is based solely on looks but you better check length and width of both if they are very close then it will probably work with a little creative ingenuity.

Online Imemiter

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Re: Kreg ACS base on MFT?
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2020, 12:07 PM »
I made an outfeed table with the Kreg legs. The whole Kreg table kit didn't interest me because it used 3/4" dogholes and the side track wouldn't accept my F-clamps. Still, the legs themselves are a great deal! There's a 3" range of height adjustment and the leg bracing makes it way more stable than an MFT. Originally the plan was to frame the table with 8020 and use it for site work, but I got in a hurry one weekend and threw it together out of 2x4s and MDO. The whole thing ended up heavy enough that it doesn't get out of the shop much. Instead, for sitework I made a Bora Centipede/Ghetto bench variant. 

I'm gearing up to drill holes in the Kreg sometime. Still need to source a 20mm spiral upcut with an 8mm shank. 
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Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: Kreg ACS base on MFT?
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2020, 12:25 PM »
“ Still need to source a 20mm spiral upcut with an 8mm shank.”

I’d rather have the tearout on the bottom.

@Imemiter  You said there is a 3” height adjustment. Is that in the legs or the feet, or a combination? I don’t see any adjustment in the legs themselves. Only the length of the foot stud?

Also, why do you suppose the legs are slayed on one side and straight on the other?
« Last Edit: December 02, 2020, 12:32 PM by Michael Kellough »

Online Imemiter

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Re: Kreg ACS base on MFT?
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2020, 12:44 PM »
Up spirals haven't led to tearout with my mortising jig. Does anyone know anything about the Festool HS no 490951??

The adjustment is all in the feet. The height I wanted was going to take them near the top of their range, so I mounted my hardware on 1" ply'd blocks instead of using the saddle straps Kreg included with the kit. The blocks and hardware will mean I'll have to leave out some rows of dogholes, but I think it'll be okay. The table mostly gets used for assembly.

As to the canting/splay of the legs, I'm not sure. I think in part it cleared hardware out of the way of the Kreg track which runs lengthwise on the table as opposed to across, ala the MFT?
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Offline afish

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Re: Kreg ACS base on MFT?
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2020, 02:51 PM »
Yea I forgot about the 3/4 dog holes so the top is out. I like the look of the legs though.  looks fast to deploy and glad to hear its sturdier than the MFT since from what I see that thing is shaking all over the place.  The kreg top does have some interesting pretty smart features to to it. However the plastic parts look cheap which is a common issue with kreg but overall pretty slick.  The top is out but im keeping those legs in mind.  As Im writing this I just had an idea for attaching a top to a ridgid MSUV I have one on my wet saw and have owned it for close to 10 years. its my favorite gravity stand Im thinking I could attach a MFT top to one of those but Id have to see how wide it would go before getting tippy. Im going to get rid of the dewalt miter stand one day and get another ridgid.  It has those orange mounts that pop on and off too so it might be nice for mobile guy to just have one stand and use whichever saw you want or put the mft top on it.   

Offline jussi

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Re: Kreg ACS base on MFT?
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2020, 09:36 AM »
Thanks for the replies.  I like the outfeed table.  I may go in a similar direction.  Btw Rockler carries the Kreg base (as well as the entire system) and they currently have a store wide 20% off and it works with the Kreg base making it $119.  Free shipping too

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Offline Rick Herrick

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Re: Kreg ACS base on MFT?
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2020, 10:10 AM »
I had the entire adaptive cutting system when I started last year.  It has a lot of positives, especially if you have the saw horse added.  I put a sheet of plywood on it (over 2x4s attached to the saw horse and Kreg table) and used it as both an indeed (holding big sheets) to Kreg, as well as an outfield on the other end for my small tables.

It folds up fairly easily and stores well but you have to be careful when you break it down.  Has metal pins you push in to release the legs.  If not careful, you can pinch yourself pretty good.

I wanted to move the track off and on for different projects but I found it harder to get aligned when putting back on the table.  All in all it was a decent tool but I started down the green brick road and I needed the room.

The original topic for this thread though, has me thinking about making another Parf top for this stand.  I need to see how a table would attach to it.

Offline afish

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Re: Kreg ACS base on MFT?
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2020, 06:40 PM »
I went to the depot today and picked up another MSUV to replace the horrible Dewalt stand that I absolutely hate.  Im thinking it would make A good mobile base for a MFT.  its about 22.5 wide at the base so Im thinking a 30x60 or 28x60 top maybe a 2 piece top that is hinged with some soss hinges so it opens up to 60x60ish the half that isnt attached to the msuv will need 2 legs that fold out.  looks super simple to attach the MSUV brackets to the bottom side. Anyone tried something like this?  I dont even do any mobile work but it seems like a good way to have an extra work bench that folds up and stores easy when not needed.  I have space issues so Im always looking for ways to maximize.

I liked those Kreg legs but everyone complains about those legs braces and I know how easy the MSUV works.  Im thinking its the better alternative at 129.