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Title: Jointers
Post by: DynaGlide on May 26, 2022, 07:27 AM
I know prices are rising with every industry, but my gosh are jointers expensive now versus just a few years ago. For reference, a popular planer like the DW735 planer is up a few hundred but routinely dips down to near original MSRP with sales on Black Friday.

I'm looking at a 6" jointer and if I want a brand like Grizzly I'm minimum a grand or more with freight. Jet/Powermatic are in the 1500 and up range. I could get a Ridgid and I'm sure it would be more than fine but it sits at $799 without a mobile base and I'd like to have a cabinet model.

Craigslist/FB Marketplace are not turning up anything.

Is this somewhat a result of increased demand of new woodworkers the past two years? Or is it more isolated to the bigger brands like Jet/Powermatic/Laguna? Was also researching bandsaws and the Lagunas are up several hundred in the last 2 years alone.

Title: Re: Jointers
Post by: Richard/RMW on May 26, 2022, 07:50 AM
My day job is related to industrial logistics, so I tend to read about this more than casually. I'd say that a joiner has all the strikes against it right now. Imported from Asia, large/heavy relative to its value, and has to ship to you via freight.

The last leg is the most impactfull, in the time it takes that truck/driver to make the delivery to you they could have moved and entire truckload of iPhones to a commercial destination.

Or I could be all wet.   [scratch chin]

RMW
Title: Re: Jointers
Post by: guybo on May 26, 2022, 07:58 AM
Hi, my neighbor has one of these on a dewalt stand.
Title: Re: Jointers
Post by: ChuckS on May 26, 2022, 08:11 AM
One option is to use your thickness planer (with a sled) to do the flattening job of the jointer, and a table saw or track saw to handle the edge cuts. It'll save you both space and money at the expense of additional setup time.
Title: Re: Jointers
Post by: DynaGlide on May 26, 2022, 08:16 AM
@ChuckS That was my original plan. However it just seems like a pain unless you're forced to do it. Then you have to account for snipe as well.

My neighbor has an older Jet when they used to be blue. It's really well kept. He's in his 80's and doesn't do woodworking anymore. I carefully asked if he'd consider selling it so we'll see. I understand the sentimental value of a well used tool. That would be the easiest option as I could just use a big dolly to wheel it from his basement to mine.
Title: Re: Jointers
Post by: afish on May 26, 2022, 08:24 AM
everything has doubled. My pool filter got a crack and I had just replaced it a little over 2 years ago so that was a bummer.  I bought the last one on Amazon so it was easy to find again but this time it was over a thousand dollars.  I was like...I dont remember paying that much so checked the order history and I had paid 479 just a few short years before.  I have no idea either when it spiked it could have been just in the last year for all I know.  I just know almost everything I buy is twice as expensive or more over the last year or so
Title: Re: Jointers
Post by: ChuckS on May 26, 2022, 08:52 AM
@ChuckS That was my original plan. However it just seems like a pain unless you're forced to do it. Then you have to account for snipe as well.

My neighbor has an older Jet when they used to be blue. It's really well kept. He's in his 80's and doesn't do woodworking anymore. I carefully asked if he'd consider selling it so we'll see. I understand the sentimental value of a well used tool. That would be the easiest option as I could just use a big dolly to wheel it from his basement to mine.

Yes, the tradeoff is additional processing time (and that's why I do it for as many boards as I can foresee each time).

You can't avoid the snipe thing because after you flatten one side on the jointer, you still need to pass it through the planer to dimension it to thickness. I minimize the waste due to snipe by not cutting the ends of the rough lumber until after its flattening.
Title: Re: Jointers
Post by: ender on May 26, 2022, 08:53 AM
I've been wanting a fancy jointer (I currently use my table saw to "joint" boards that I've planed and while it "works" it's definitely not good enough for long boards).

But they are so much more expensive that's for sure!
Title: Re: Jointers
Post by: rvieceli on May 26, 2022, 09:43 AM
@DynaGlide prices are crazy. I bought a new 20 inch Powermatic helical head planer in June last year for 4200, the current price is 6000

Seems that as a result people aren’t upgrading their equipment which means fewer machines available used. Plus the used prices are higher

Prices for new steel has gone up significantly almost double. Buying from the scrap yard has doubled as  well.

There are machines out there though.

You may need to expand your search on the used market and just assume you’ll need to drive to pick it up. Facebook Marketplace will let you search a 500 mile radius.

I think I drove around 800 miles round trip to pick up my 16 inch Oliver. But absolutely worth it.  [big grin]

Use a Craigslist search engine like searchtempest.com to manage your searches.

Also don’t shy away from commercial equipment or 3 phase. Smaller jointers usually have a smaller motor that can easily be run off a VFD.

irsauctions.com is an online auction house dealing with surplus equipment and business liquidations. (Industrial recovery service not the FEDS)

govdeals.com is another source for equipment.

Jointers are fairly simple machines with usually only a couple of bearings on the head.

Ron

Title: Re: Jointers
Post by: Richard/RMW on May 26, 2022, 09:58 AM
@rvieceli Ron I casually grabbed 3 pieces of offcut AL angle from my supplier and was shocked when they asked me for $80+. 10# @ $8/#!

Steel prices went from ~$1 to $2/#. Thankfully they haven't raises their prices for offcuts yet, still $0.50/#.

The world has definitely changed. Makes me happy we are personally on the downslope of our consumer years, yet I feel bad for younger generations.

Heavy truck manufacturers are sold out thru 2023, so large trucking fleets are keeping their vehicles longer, driving up their operating costs per mile. Used tractor prices have doubled, which hits the independent owner/operators that handle most of the port drayage. Add in fuel costs and wages and you see the trajectory. Refief won't come until consumption drops, i.e. recession.

RMW
Title: Re: Jointers
Post by: Cheese on May 26, 2022, 10:15 AM
Just to add to the hand wringing... [smile]...was at Menards yesterday and noticed that 100 feet of 12/3 NM-B copper is now over $200 with the taxes added. And I don't need to add that 100 feet of wire doesn't go very far.
Title: Re: Jointers
Post by: Richard/RMW on May 26, 2022, 10:51 AM
Just to add to the hand wringing... [smile]...was at Menards yesterday and noticed that 100 feet of 12/3 NM-B copper is now over $200 with the taxes added. And I don't need to add that 100 feet of wire doesn't go very far.

Guilty. It is easy to get wrapped up with first world problems.

This weekend is an especially good opportunity to reflect and appreciate. And unplug.

Think I'll take my own advice this time.

RMW
Title: Re: Jointers
Post by: DynaGlide on May 26, 2022, 11:26 AM
@rvieceli

Thanks Ron. That IRS Auctions site could get a guy in trouble if he had a large shop and cash to burn. Some real big boy machinery on there.

I'll keep looking. I get the feeling not owning a truck/cargo van is going to really hinder my ability to pick something up if I find it.
Title: Re: Jointers
Post by: rvieceli on May 26, 2022, 11:59 AM
That’s what UHaul, Penske and Budget are for.  [big grin]

Ron
Title: Re: Jointers
Post by: afish on May 26, 2022, 12:04 PM
That’s what UHaul, Penske and Budget are for.  [big grin]

Ron

Yep, I live in the city and had a All aluminum off road trailer I built but it came in handy for lots of stuff since I dont have a pick up anymore but the storage was killing me.  I have a uhaul less than a mile from me so I finally sold the trailer and just spend 20 bucks if I need to move something. 
Title: Re: Jointers
Post by: Bob D. on May 26, 2022, 12:12 PM
I think I'd be looking at old iron. More bang for your buck.

Example: here WAS a Delta 8" jointer that went for $850.
I say was because it is sold. But it might have been worth the drive.

https://delaware.craigslist.org/tld/d/millsboro-used-machinery/7486594777.html

Looks like there is a shop full of machinery for sale there. He's in Millsboro, DE
Title: Re: Jointers
Post by: JimH2 on May 26, 2022, 12:42 PM
Powermatic double drum sander is cool and were I able to get it through my basement door I'd be driving to DE.
Title: Re: Jointers
Post by: DynaGlide on May 26, 2022, 01:01 PM
I think I'd be looking at old iron. More bang for your buck.

Example: here WAS a Delta 8" jointer that went for $850.
I say was because it is sold. But it might have been worth the drive.

https://delaware.craigslist.org/tld/d/millsboro-used-machinery/7486594777.html

Looks like there is a shop full of machinery for sale there. He's in Millsboro, DE

@Bob D. So I gave them a call, friendly shop. They have a bunch of used machinery that they get from auction and tune up and resell. Or if someone passes away, gets out of woodworking, etc, they take it in and resell it. They might have something for me and I like that since it's a business I could likely reserve/hold an item while I arrange a trip and truck rental.

Based on the pricing of that 8" jointer I'm guessing the 6" I'm after would be pretty reasonable.

Thanks for the heads up.

Matt
Title: Re: Jointers
Post by: Bob D. on May 26, 2022, 01:07 PM
Great. If it was a bit closer than 120 miles from me I might be tempted to
make a trip. That's 12 gallons of diesel @ $6.19/gal and a $5 bridge toll.

But that's a fair chunk of change in fuel and tolls for a joy ride as I am not in
need of anything.

But no doubt if I was there I could find something I just had to have. :-)
Title: Re: Jointers
Post by: DynaGlide on May 26, 2022, 01:12 PM
It's 138 miles for me. Not the farthest I've gone for a tool though. . .that award goes to a round trip to NJ to get @Bob Marino CMS-GE set.
Title: Re: Jointers
Post by: Bob D. on May 26, 2022, 01:15 PM
It's worth it if they have what you need. Good luck.
Title: Re: Jointers
Post by: Peter Kelly on May 26, 2022, 02:10 PM
Unless you're only ever making really small things I'd look for an 8" jointer. You'll find it to be a much more useful tool.
Title: Re: Jointers
Post by: Peter_C on May 26, 2022, 02:22 PM
I have no problem buying older American iron, so I grabbed a Powermatic PM50 from Ebay out of a school equipment replacement program for $164. The bearings could use replacement in the future, and I upgraded the switch to a larger STOP paddle type. Hooked it up to dust collection and put it to work. Is there a benefit to new equipment? Not much if you don't mind a couple hours of work and less than $80 in bearings, and maybe brushes. Shelix heads can be installed in most any piece of equipment, but jointer blades are easy enough to sharpen.

I didn't take down my searches for a jointer since an 8" jointer is preferable, and I can resell the Powermatic PM50. If buying new I would go for an 8" at time of purchase.

This doesn't apply 100% of the time but..."Inflation" coincides with "Record Corporate Profits".
Title: Re: Jointers
Post by: rvieceli on May 26, 2022, 02:43 PM
yup. My Oliver jointer rolled off the factory floor in 1945, the PM66 table saw in 1969 and the 20 inch Bandsaw in 1974.

Ron
Title: Re: Jointers
Post by: Richard/RMW on May 26, 2022, 05:24 PM
Great. If it was a bit closer than 120 miles from me I might be tempted to
make a trip. That's 12 gallons of diesel @ $6.19/gal and a $5 bridge toll.

But that's a fair chunk of change in fuel and tolls for a joy ride as I am not in
need of anything.

But no doubt if I was there I could find something I just had to have. :-)

Much closer if you take the ferry to Lewes... [poke]

RMW  [big grin]
Title: Re: Jointers
Post by: Peter Halle on May 26, 2022, 06:15 PM
I am considering the Jet combo that ToolNut has on sale.  Yes it is NOT for a commercial shop, but to get a short bed jointer (10") and a 10" planer combo for less than $800 for my needs -it sure is tempting.

Peter
Title: Re: Jointers
Post by: DynaGlide on May 26, 2022, 06:21 PM
I am considering the Jet combo that ToolNut has on sale.  Yes it is NOT for a commercial shop, but to get a short bed jointer (10") and a 10" planer combo for less than $800 for my needs -it sure is tempting.

Peter

Careful Peter. The reviews on that are not great.

Title: Re: Jointers
Post by: Peter Halle on May 26, 2022, 07:12 PM
I know, but I also looked at the dates with the hope that since the model was out in 2009 they have made improvements.

I'm like you and would love to get an 8".  Don't need a planer - I have one that has probably only had 200 feet run thru it in 8 years.

Scarcity sucks!

Peter
Title: Re: Jointers
Post by: Bob D. on May 26, 2022, 07:24 PM
Great. If it was a bit closer than 120 miles from me I might be tempted to
make a trip. That's 12 gallons of diesel @ $6.19/gal and a $5 bridge toll.

But that's a fair chunk of change in fuel and tolls for a joy ride as I am not in
need of anything.

But no doubt if I was there I could find something I just had to have. :-)

Much closer if you take the ferry to Lewes... [poke]

RMW  [big grin]

Maybe for you living on the east coast, but I am 26 miles from the DMB. It's 58 miles to the Ferry for me plus you get to wait an hour or more, both ways.

Right now there is a $5 fuel surcharge for the Ferry, because the $45 fare is not enough. And that's the low side, the rate varies with time of day and how far in advance you book. Waste of time AND money. they should discontinue service and build a bridge/tunnel like was proposed decades ago. It could have paid for itself a dozen times over by now.
Title: Re: Jointers
Post by: Peter Kelly on May 26, 2022, 08:50 PM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/354049974969?hash=item526f05e2b9:g:ZmsAAOSwdzZieALT
6" Delta for $250 located in Alexandria VA, looks like it needs a little TLC but otherwise viable. Even comes with a rolling base.
Title: Re: Jointers
Post by: greg mann on May 26, 2022, 10:00 PM
My day job is related to industrial logistics, so I tend to read about this more than casually. I'd say that a joiner has all the strikes against it right now. Imported from Asia, large/heavy relative to its value, and has to ship to you via freight.

The last leg is the most impactfull, in the time it takes that truck/driver to make the delivery to you they could have moved and entire truckload of iPhones to a commercial destination.

Or I could be all wet.   [scratch chin]

RMW

You are not all wet at all, you are right on point. We machine castings that our customer is sourcing from Turkey and Germany. Shipping costs almost as much as the casting and considerably more than we get for machining it. Totally upside down.

Please don’t ask why we can’t get the casting here. It is along story and I didn’t have the stamina to write that much and your eyes will probably glaze over anyway.
Title: Re: Jointers
Post by: Bob D. on May 27, 2022, 04:52 AM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/354049974969?hash=item526f05e2b9:g:ZmsAAOSwdzZieALT
6" Delta for $250 located in Alexandria VA, looks like it needs a little TLC but otherwise viable. Even comes with a rolling base.

A little TLC, I'll say. I have that same jointer in my shop for 15 years and it looks much better than this. I am on the fence as to if it's worth changing the cutter out for a Shelix. I do use it enough that I think it would be worth it for the cut quality not the economy as I don't use it enough to go through more than one set of blades a year.

For me I have to apply the EOL evaluation. Will the investment pay me back before the end of my life.  [sad]
Title: Re: Jointers
Post by: Birdhunter on May 27, 2022, 05:12 AM
I owned a Delta 6” jointer for several years. Learned to replace blades as I had to do it often and always wore ear protection as the tool was loud. Always found 6” wasn’t enough for my projects.  Got smart and ordered. An 8” Powermatic with helical heads and a companion Powermatic wide bed planer also with helical heads.

Goodby to knives, noise, and 90 percent of the sanding. The wood comes off only needing touch up with 180 and 220.
Title: Re: Jointers
Post by: DynaGlide on May 27, 2022, 06:28 AM
I'll put that as option C. Thanks for sharing.

I'd love to have my neighbors if he comes around. It's immaculate and I could strap it to a big dolly and wheel it to my shop.

I reached out to the woodworking guild president yesterday and he said he has one or two in storage and will take pictures next week. Sounds promising as I know him pretty well and he's a straight up person. Delta or powermatic but he wasn't positive. Bonus there would be here could probably help move and set it up. He's been after me for years to do a presentation on Festool/cabinetry.
Title: Re: Jointers
Post by: Mini Me on May 27, 2022, 06:49 AM
Clearvue Cyclones in Australia has shut the doors because freight costs have gone from $3000 to $13000 per shipment from the East Coast of the US. 
Title: Re: Jointers
Post by: Birdhunter on May 27, 2022, 06:55 AM
Ive found it difficult to find parts for Delta equipment. Not impossible, just difficult 
Title: Re: Jointers
Post by: kevinculle on May 27, 2022, 07:35 AM
I have a Jet 6" jointer I bought new about 20 years ago...I think it was around $550 then.  It has served me well and I added a Shelix head which improved its capabilities substantially.  Other than one or two lightly chipped inserts that I have rotated, in 7 years I am still working on the 1st edge of the inserts.  I agree 6" can be limiting so when I have a project using wider stock I will have the mill I buy from skip plane one side, their 30" jointer easily covers my needs.  I think they charge $0.20 a BF for that so it's a no brainer.
Title: Re: Jointers
Post by: DynaGlide on May 27, 2022, 09:19 AM
Look at this beast:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/164841437423?hash=item266150b8ef:g:p~0AAOSwFNZWw6vZ (https://www.ebay.com/itm/164841437423?hash=item266150b8ef:g:p~0AAOSwFNZWw6vZ)

(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/p~0AAOSwFNZWw6vZ/s-l500.jpg)
Title: Re: Jointers
Post by: DynaGlide on May 27, 2022, 10:33 AM
I watched a video on jointer restoration and it seems like it's more elbow grease than anything. That Delta on e-bay doesn't seem worth the effort, though. If it were a Jet or Powermatic I'd probably go get it.

Way off topic here, but a past version of myself when I had more free time I told a buddy I'd restore this engine for him on an old Yamaha from 1982 that looked like it was left in a puddle of mud for a decade:

(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-W79kDmT/0/fad49f48/L/i-W79kDmT-L.jpg)

(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-pwFLv74/0/0a672b00/L/i-pwFLv74-L.jpg)

(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-rmLf25Q/0/c1ac4a35/L/i-rmLf25Q-L.png)

(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-5PPJLv3/0/6d14b704/L/i-5PPJLv3-L.jpg)

(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-8D3gg6R/0/5d2db844/L/i-8D3gg6R-L.jpg)

I ended up stripping it all apart, replacing every bearing and cleaning it best I could. So while I'm capable of tackling a neglected jointer I don't think I want to unless the deal is too good to pass up.

Matt
Title: Re: Jointers
Post by: rvieceli on May 27, 2022, 10:45 AM
Matt you don’t want that be one. Takes up all the space of a 16 inch but only has a 12 inch head. I actually have that Oliver 166 with a 16 inch head. Love it. Mine and most of them were direct drive models where the motor armature is the shaft for the head.

There is an Oliver 166 with a 30 inch head in Columbus OH you should get. They don’t turn up very often.


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1371125670019228/?ref=search&referral_code=marketplace_search&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3Adc6c4e0c-c74d-474e-acc5-a6ea8b434212

Ron

Title: Re: Jointers
Post by: DynaGlide on May 27, 2022, 11:01 AM
Hey Ron I was just joking on that Oliver. I do not have the room or power to run something like that.
Title: Re: Jointers
Post by: rvieceli on May 27, 2022, 11:30 AM
 [tongue] [tongue] [tongue]

Ron
Title: Re: Jointers
Post by: afish on May 27, 2022, 02:35 PM
saw this incase any one looking for grizzly (https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1608485372860252/?ref=browse_tab&referral_code=marketplace_general&referral_story_type=general&tracking=%7B%22qid%22%3A%22-6264065212202678127%22%2C%22mf_story_key%22%3A%22989936258583212807%22%2C%22commerce_rank_obj%22%3A%22%7B%5C%22target_id%5C%22%3A989936258583212807%2C%5C%22target_type%5C%22%3A6%2C%5C%22primary_position%5C%22%3A123%2C%5C%22ranking_signature%5C%22%3A7325133630328537088%2C%5C%22commerce_channel%5C%22%3A501%2C%5C%22value%5C%22%3A2.6438259530387e-5%2C%5C%22upsell_type%5C%22%3A3516%2C%5C%22candidate_retrieval_source_map%5C%22%3A%7B%5C%224852511538204253%5C%22%3A315%2C%5C%225193112000785597%5C%22%3A315%2C%5C%225111660498918632%5C%22%3A315%2C%5C%225707881352574779%5C%22%3A315%2C%5C%224934815659898951%5C%22%3A315%2C%5C%228111505125530161%5C%22%3A315%7D%2C%5C%22grouping_info%5C%22%3Anull%7D%22%2C%22lightning_feed_qid%22%3A%22-6265143695595574590%22%2C%22lightning_feed_ranking_signature%22%3A%226088825855360892928%22%2C%22ftmd_400706%22%3A%22111112l%22%7D)
Title: Re: Jointers
Post by: Peter_C on May 27, 2022, 03:06 PM
I ended up stripping it all apart, replacing every bearing and cleaning it best I could. So while I'm capable of tackling a neglected jointer I don't think I want to unless the deal is too good to pass up.

Matt
As someone who often rebuilt motorcycle engines I can say rebuilding a jointer is about 1/30th the amount of work. I do get if the deal is too good to pass up, which is what the Powermatic I got was. Might just take a little while on CL, FB, and Ebay, along with Gov auctions.
Title: Re: Jointers
Post by: JimH2 on May 27, 2022, 03:15 PM
I should have bought the Dual Drum Sander. Sold this morning after them having 13 months.
Title: Re: Jointers
Post by: Bob D. on May 27, 2022, 03:48 PM
I agree a 6" jointer is a teaser machine. I would have bought an 8" if I had the room to fit it. My shop is stuffed now and that's after I sold off a few things in the past 6 months (16" DP, 16x44 lathe, PM mortising machine, and some other stuff). Every other month I am tempted to sell the RAS but I'll never get more than $100 for it and it's worth more than that to me so I keep it.

I need a 10x16 shed I can stuff all my wood in then I could make loads of room.
Title: Re: Jointers
Post by: festal on May 28, 2022, 09:50 AM
I recently got Ridgid 6" from craigslist for $300.  I posted few pics here about my cleanup.  Had to drive from NJ to PA but it wasn't bad.  It cleaned up nicely and I upgraded to sheartak head.  Works great.   So for $600 all in its pretty decent setup.  It did take a while to find one.  Tomorrow I'm going to go look at Kity 637 model someone posted not too far.  its a 10" combo model, looks pretty interesting.  Not much info on it.  Only possible issue is that its cast aluminum table instead of cast iron, but asking price is not too bad 
Title: Re: Jointers
Post by: Peter Kelly on May 28, 2022, 11:10 AM
Hope you brought cash, that Kity 637 is a really cool little machine.
Title: Re: Jointers
Post by: Bob D. on May 28, 2022, 01:31 PM
I recently got Ridgid 6" from craigslist for $300.  I posted few pics here about my cleanup.  Had to drive from NJ to PA but it wasn't bad.  It cleaned up nicely and I upgraded to sheartak head.  Works great.   So for $600 all in its pretty decent setup.  It did take a while to find one.  Tomorrow I'm going to go look at Kity 637 model someone posted not too far.  its a 10" combo model, looks pretty interesting.  Not much info on it.  Only possible issue is that its cast aluminum table instead of cast iron, but asking price is not too bad

Some background on Kity.

https://machineatlas.com/guides/a-guide-to-kity-woodworking-machines/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfHZoaWpkRY
Title: Re: Jointers
Post by: festal on May 28, 2022, 01:40 PM
I recently got Ridgid 6" from craigslist for $300.  I posted few pics here about my cleanup.  Had to drive from NJ to PA but it wasn't bad.  It cleaned up nicely and I upgraded to sheartak head.  Works great.   So for $600 all in its pretty decent setup.  It did take a while to find one.  Tomorrow I'm going to go look at Kity 637 model someone posted not too far.  its a 10" combo model, looks pretty interesting.  Not much info on it.  Only possible issue is that its cast aluminum table instead of cast iron, but asking price is not too bad

Some background on Kity.

https://machineatlas.com/guides/a-guide-to-kity-woodworking-machines/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfHZoaWpkRY
Thank you. Found the video as well. He also upgraded his 636 to shelix which is nice. I’ll go check it out tomorrow and probably buy it . Seems to be in great condition.


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Title: Re: Jointers
Post by: festal on May 29, 2022, 07:33 AM
Hope you brought cash, that Kity 637 is a really cool little machine.

Not sure if its happening.  Person keeps changing dates on me. 
Title: Re: Jointers
Post by: DynaGlide on May 29, 2022, 09:05 AM
I recently got Ridgid 6" from craigslist for $300.  I posted few pics here about my cleanup.  Had to drive from NJ to PA but it wasn't bad.  It cleaned up nicely and I upgraded to sheartak head.  Works great.   So for $600 all in its pretty decent setup.  It did take a while to find one.  Tomorrow I'm going to go look at Kity 637 model someone posted not too far.  its a 10" combo model, looks pretty interesting.  Not much info on it.  Only possible issue is that its cast aluminum table instead of cast iron, but asking price is not too bad

@festal I'd probably bite on a Ridgid if I saw it in the condition of yours for $300. Jointers are pretty simple machines I just would prefer one with a cabinet and as small of a footprint as possible with a built in mobile base like the Jet offers. Plenty of people satisfied with that Ridgid and if I had to buy one new that's probably the one I'd go for as it isn't crazy expensive.
Title: Re: Jointers
Post by: Bob D. on May 29, 2022, 10:55 AM
@DynaGlide , are you still looking? Here's an 8" in SE PA and another 8 incher (Delta Dj20) in Philly.

Title: Re: Jointers
Post by: Crazyraceguy on May 29, 2022, 01:31 PM
@DynaGlide What the heck happened to the stator on that poor motorcycle? It looks like someone threw it in a river to put that fire out!?
Title: Re: Jointers
Post by: DynaGlide on May 29, 2022, 04:00 PM
@DynaGlide What the heck happened to the stator on that poor motorcycle? It looks like someone threw it in a river to put that fire out!?

And left it there until I took it over.
Title: Re: Jointers
Post by: DynaGlide on May 29, 2022, 08:18 PM
Well....#$&#. Missed a Bridge wood 8 inch in great shape for 450. He said he'd hold it until Friday but you know how that goes. Someone showed up and cleaned him out.
Title: Re: Jointers
Post by: festal on May 29, 2022, 08:20 PM
Well....#$&#. Missed a Bridge wood 8 inch in great shape for 450. He said he'd hold it until Friday but you know how that goes. Someone showed up and cleaned him out.
Offer hold deposit. Then it makes it serious. As a seller, I had so many people promise to pick it up in few days and flake out so deposit definitely helps


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Title: Re: Jointers
Post by: DynaGlide on May 29, 2022, 08:24 PM
Well....#$&#. Missed a Bridge wood 8 inch in great shape for 450. He said he'd hold it until Friday but you know how that goes. Someone showed up and cleaned him out.
Offer hold deposit. Then it makes it serious. As a seller, I had so many people promise to pick it up in few days and flake out so deposit definitely helps


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I don't think this guy would've mattered. He just wanted stuff gone.
Title: Re: Jointers
Post by: festal on May 29, 2022, 08:25 PM
Well....#$&#. Missed a Bridge wood 8 inch in great shape for 450. He said he'd hold it until Friday but you know how that goes. Someone showed up and cleaned him out.
Offer hold deposit. Then it makes it serious. As a seller, I had so many people promise to pick it up in few days and flake out so deposit definitely helps


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I don't think this guy would've mattered. He just wanted stuff gone.
Ah ye. I noticed this too. If an awesome deal comes along, you have to jump on it asap.  Friend of mine picked up 12” laguna combo from 2013 for $1500 recently and deposit worked. Seller held it for a week


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Title: Re: Jointers
Post by: woodbutcherbower on June 05, 2022, 05:17 AM
I think I'd be looking at old iron. More bang for your buck.

This.

I’m in the UK - 3 years ago, I chanced upon a Wadkin BER2 spindle moulder dating from 1973, complete with a fully-rebuilt shaft and new bearings all to comply with modern safety standards, plus a recently-rewound motor. It had come out of a small commercial backstreet joinery shop who had won a big supply contract and had upgraded to CNC. It cost me £300 (they just wanted rid of it) and it still works as well as the day it was built. The whole thing’s one massive lump of iron, the weight is insane. Needed a flatbed truck with an onboard crane and a forklift to move it.
Title: Re: Jointers
Post by: Sourwould on June 05, 2022, 09:21 AM
What part of VA are you in? I have a 1951 6" Delta that I took apart and started to rebuild and then found a Hitachi F1000a. So the Delta is sitting in my storage. You can have it if you come get it. I'm in Durham.
Title: Re: Jointers
Post by: JimH2 on June 05, 2022, 09:28 AM
Well....#$&#. Missed a Bridge wood 8 inch in great shape for 450. He said he'd hold it until Friday but you know how that goes. Someone showed up and cleaned him out.
Offer hold deposit. Then it makes it serious. As a seller, I had so many people promise to pick it up in few days and flake out so deposit definitely helps


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I go with the non-refundable PayPal refund. Varies depending on price. That shows you are legitimate.
Title: Re: Jointers
Post by: DynaGlide on June 05, 2022, 06:43 PM
What part of VA are you in? I have a 1951 6" Delta that I took apart and started to rebuild and then found a Hitachi F1000a. So the Delta is sitting in my storage. You can have it if you come get it. I'm in Durham.

That's very kind of you. If you were closer I would definitely do that.

I got what I consider a good deal on this 8 inch unit from a dealer up in Pennsylvania. My friend brought it down on his way here to visit.

(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-K4fGLLV/0/110d1253/X2/i-K4fGLLV-X2.jpg)
Title: Re: Jointers
Post by: Bob D. on June 05, 2022, 08:35 PM
Best of luck Matt with the jointer. Looks like a nice one.
Title: Re: Jointers
Post by: DynaGlide on June 07, 2022, 10:15 AM
Best of luck Matt with the jointer. Looks like a nice one.

@Bob D. Thanks Bob. It's crazy how expensive they've gotten. This unit was several hundred less just a year ago. I'm sure 10 years from now when I'm still using it I'll have gotten over that though.