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Offline ChuckM

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Re: JESSEM Table Saw Miter Gauge
« Reply #30 on: May 25, 2019, 10:50 AM »
I recently dealt with an American vendor (ToolsToday) for the first time and their response time by email was 24 hrs to 72 hrs.

Lee Valley Tools's has always been within 24 hrs unless the next day is a Sunday or holiday.

JessEm does not seem to know what an acknowledgement email can do even if they don't have the answers to your questions immediately.
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Offline Mario Turcot

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Re: JESSEM Table Saw Miter Gauge
« Reply #31 on: May 25, 2019, 11:57 AM »
I get all my blades and most router bits from Toolstoday. They carry the whole Amana Tools line and their shipping price is fair. They also offer pre-paid tax & duties , so no surprises.

Regarding Jessem, when you have a contact us feature, you have to respond within a reasonable time frame.
Mario

Offline Mario Turcot

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Re: JESSEM Table Saw Miter Gauge
« Reply #32 on: May 27, 2019, 04:23 PM »
Update:

Today I decided to reply from Jessem new letter email directly. Perhaps it will fall in the hands of a different person?

Well, yes. I received a reply 10 minutes later  [eek] and replied to it with the same questions I had previously  [popcorn]
Mario

Offline ChuckM

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Re: JESSEM Table Saw Miter Gauge
« Reply #33 on: May 30, 2019, 09:57 PM »
Jessem MITE-R-EXCEL II



Offline Mario Turcot

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Re: JESSEM Table Saw Miter Gauge
« Reply #34 on: May 30, 2019, 10:56 PM »
@Birdhunter
I watched the video and the new miter gauge does have some nice features my original lacks.

The flip up stop that accommodates a sacrificial fence would be great to have. Would the new stop fit onto my old unit?

Unfortunatly the new flip stop is not compatible with the original miter gauge.
Mario

Offline gary_va

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Re: JESSEM Table Saw Miter Gauge
« Reply #35 on: June 08, 2019, 07:14 PM »
The new Mite-R-Excel II alongside an Incra 1000SE.

User experience is no comparison, the JessEm is smooth, creamy, and appropriately engineered, whereas the Incra is edgy, overbaked, and chock full of fiddly bits.

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Unfortunately I have to echo the comments on their customer service, they remain too busy making nice tools to answer email and the phone.


Offline Mario Turcot

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Re: JESSEM Table Saw Miter Gauge
« Reply #36 on: June 08, 2019, 07:20 PM »
@gary_va  [welcome] to the FOG comment section  [big grin]

Gary, I hate you hate hate hate. Did I said I hate you  [tongue] Hurry up and put a sub fence on that beauty.

Q: You have 3 buttons that holds the fence to move it left/right. What is the middle button for?

I should get mine in a few days, hopefully  [big grin]

One thing I really hate with the Incra is the flip stop. Very cringy to use  [mad]
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Offline ChuckM

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Re: JESSEM Table Saw Miter Gauge
« Reply #37 on: June 08, 2019, 10:37 PM »
Ordered mine...waiting for delivery (to replace the stock mitre gauge on the SawStop). Was about to pull the trigger on the Incra, but someone posted about the new Mite-R... "Hate" the guy who shared the news. [tongue] [big grin]

Offline Mario Turcot

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Re: JESSEM Table Saw Miter Gauge
« Reply #38 on: June 08, 2019, 10:39 PM »
Ordered mine...waiting for delivery (to replace the stock mitre gauge on the SawStop). Was about to pull the trigger on the Incra, but someone posted about the new Mite-R... "Hate" the guy who shared the news. [tongue] [big grin]

He must be a very mean soul  [eek]
Mario

Offline gary_va

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Re: JESSEM Table Saw Miter Gauge
« Reply #39 on: June 08, 2019, 11:15 PM »
Q: You have 3 buttons that holds the fence to move it left/right. What is the middle button for?

The middle knob is an "Index Pin" which reliably guides you back to a calibrated location after you've slid the fence away from the blade for a miter cut. It's slick, and works well. The calibration procedure is a bit confusing but it'll make more sense once you see how the pin works.

A sub-fence is in queue for tomorrow's shop-time; I've been eyeing a lonely scrap of hard maple that's been itching to become something useful.

Offline Mario Turcot

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Re: JESSEM Table Saw Miter Gauge
« Reply #40 on: June 08, 2019, 11:39 PM »
The middle knob is an "Index Pin" which reliably guides you back to a calibrated location after you've slid the fence away from the blade for a miter cut. It's slick, and works well. The calibration procedure is a bit confusing but it'll make more sense once you see how the pin works.

A sub-fence is in queue for tomorrow's shop-time; I've been eyeing a lonely scrap of hard maple that's been itching to become something useful.

Thank you  [thumbs up]
Mario

Online Bob D.

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Re: JESSEM Table Saw Miter Gauge
« Reply #41 on: June 09, 2019, 05:45 AM »
Biggest difference I see is the Incra has positive settings at common angles assuring a return to the same angle after changing to a different angle.

I don't care for the flip stop on my Incra either, I find it difficult to use. In place of the Incra setup I would rather have two (or more) independent flip stops.
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Offline gary_va

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Re: JESSEM Table Saw Miter Gauge
« Reply #42 on: June 09, 2019, 08:44 AM »
...Incra has positive settings at common angles...

Instead of notches, JessEm uses a pin. I've tweaked the contrast on the closeup photo to make this easier to see.

A = spring loaded angle pin, pull to unlock then rotate 90° to lock in the extracted position for free-rotation of main assembly
B = holes for the angle pin to seat
C = scale diamonds indicate lock angles @ 0,15,30,45°

It's too graphically crowded for a diamond at 22.5° but as you can see there is an index point.

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Online Cheese

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Re: JESSEM Table Saw Miter Gauge
« Reply #43 on: June 09, 2019, 11:28 AM »
I may be a little late to this party but that Jessem gauge looks outstanding. I have the Incra on my band saw and it works well, but finish wise, that Jessem is beautiful.

Offline ChuckM

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Re: JESSEM Table Saw Miter Gauge
« Reply #44 on: June 09, 2019, 11:43 AM »
Snip

A = spring loaded angle pin, pull to unlock then rotate 90° to lock in the extracted position for free-rotation of main assembly
B = holes for the angle pin to seat
C = scale diamonds indicate lock angles @ 0,15,30,45°

It's too graphically crowded for a diamond at 22.5° but as you can see there is an index point.


Question: What kind of project would make use of the 15 & 30?

Offline Mario Turcot

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Re: JESSEM Table Saw Miter Gauge
« Reply #45 on: June 09, 2019, 12:12 PM »
@ChuckM Interesting question. The first thing that comes to my mind is an outdoor bench/table like this one

You can basically make any small angle cut to any furniture, to give it a more symmetric design  [eek]
Mario

Offline gary_va

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Re: JESSEM Table Saw Miter Gauge
« Reply #46 on: June 09, 2019, 03:02 PM »
Jerry Cole, In-Line Industries, wrote a book which waxes numerically poetic about polygons as applied to multi-sided woodworking projects.

If this angular madness strikes your fancy you'll start to morph perfectly innocent square objects into hexgons (30°), dodecagons (15°), and many others. I don't have that sickness (yet) but my double Dubby and the new JessEm gauge stand ready to make that hexadecagon (16 sided) thing my wife will someday want.

That IS why we buy all these tools...right?

Offline ChuckM

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Re: JESSEM Table Saw Miter Gauge
« Reply #47 on: June 09, 2019, 03:44 PM »
Thanks both for the idea...that outdoor bench looks suited for the DF500!

Offline Mario Turcot

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Re: JESSEM Table Saw Miter Gauge
« Reply #48 on: June 09, 2019, 04:49 PM »
Thanks both for the idea...that outdoor bench looks suited for the DF500!

Indeed! I can see the legs jointed as Half lap cross joint for more structural strength. A nice entry project for that coming miter gauge  [big grin]
Mario

Offline Birdhunter

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Re: JESSEM Table Saw Miter Gauge
« Reply #49 on: June 09, 2019, 09:12 PM »
I’d love to understand what all the knobs and other adjustments do.
Birdhunter

Online Cheese

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Re: JESSEM Table Saw Miter Gauge
« Reply #50 on: June 10, 2019, 09:34 AM »
Indeed! I can see the legs jointed as Half lap cross joint for more structural strength. A nice entry project for that coming miter gauge  [big grin]

Using the Kapex to make the half-lap joints.  [smile]

Offline gary_va

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Re: JESSEM Table Saw Miter Gauge
« Reply #51 on: June 10, 2019, 01:23 PM »
I’d love to understand what all the knobs and other adjustments do.

I can take you on an annotated photo tour but it would be best if you started with the manual, then I can fill in any blanks. It's not a bad book - they forgot to include scale calibration but that's a minor quibble.

One notable thing about this design: 100% feature parity does not exist when you are in the right-of-blade slot; the extension slideout is only configured for left-of-blade use. This is not a show-stopper for most but as a Lefty I noticed it right away.


Offline jellyroll

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Re: JESSEM Table Saw Miter Gauge
« Reply #52 on: June 10, 2019, 01:53 PM »
Perhaps JessEm customer service has been improved. They were certainly responsive to me. I ordered a miter gage on June 1st, sent them an email this weekend asking when they would ship and received a response this morning (Monday) with the expected ship date of the 13th.

I am looking forward to the miter gage... I have their clear cut TS stock guide and I am very impressed with the design and quality construction. If the miter gage has the same robustness and quality I will be very pleased.

Offline gary_va

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Re: JESSEM Table Saw Miter Gauge
« Reply #53 on: June 10, 2019, 07:29 PM »
...sent them an email this weekend...

That's great news, what email address did you use?

Offline Mario Turcot

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Re: JESSEM Table Saw Miter Gauge
« Reply #54 on: June 10, 2019, 09:57 PM »
...sent them an email this weekend...

That's great news, what email address did you use?

Personally, I tried several times to contact them after I started that thread. Via phone the person always said that she's going to ask an engineer and never called back. I called 3 times. I sent a request via their website contact page, no reply. The only time I was successful was from replying from their newsletter.
Mario

Offline Mario Turcot

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Re: JESSEM Table Saw Miter Gauge
« Reply #55 on: June 10, 2019, 09:59 PM »
@gary_va , Gary can you post a picture of your miter gauge with the sub fence when avail... thank you  [smile]
Mario

Offline jellyroll

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Re: JESSEM Table Saw Miter Gauge
« Reply #56 on: June 11, 2019, 06:40 PM »
...sent them an email this weekend...

That's great news, what email address did you use?

I used Jessem@jessem.com as an email and response came the next day from:

Patricia Thynne
Customer Service/Logistics Co-ordinator
61 Forest Plain Road
Oro-Medonte, ON  Canada
L3V 0R4
 
Toll Free: 800 436.6799
Local  705.726.8233
Fax 705.327.0295
 
www.jessem.com
www.jessemdirect.com
Find us on FACEBOOK: www.facebook.com/JessEmTools
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Offline gary_va

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Re: JESSEM Table Saw Miter Gauge
« Reply #57 on: June 11, 2019, 10:40 PM »
@Mario Turcot - As requested. Ignore the newly arrived table top swirls, Spring rust removal is running late this year.

@jellyroll - thanks for the info, who would have thought using jessem@jessem.com would get a real human, CLEVER!

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Offline Mario Turcot

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Re: JESSEM Table Saw Miter Gauge
« Reply #58 on: June 11, 2019, 10:58 PM »
Thank you Gary, it look awesome.
Mario

Offline Boodrizzle

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Re: JESSEM Table Saw Miter Gauge
« Reply #59 on: June 11, 2019, 11:01 PM »
Mine was delivered last week.  Very very impressed with build quality.  Have yet to use on a project but plan on doing so this weekend.
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