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Title: Jessem Router Table
Post by: Mario Turcot on May 20, 2020, 09:11 PM
I finally received all the packages from the JESSEM ULTIMATE EXCEL II PACKAGE
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0314/3902/8355/products/Ultimate-Excel-II-Package_300x.jpg?v=1583445544)

I am pretty excited to put it all together. Here is what to expect as boxes
[attachimg=1]


I also order an extra set of inserts.
It is not easy to find any information about Jessem's product. I thought I could make a thread about the build, for future reference.
Title: Re: Jessem Router Table
Post by: Mario Turcot on May 20, 2020, 09:11 PM
The Stand
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0314/3902/8355/products/IMG_0658_400x.jpg?v=1579824194)

Registration Card & Instructions
[attachimg=1]

Hardware & Tools (coffee optional but highly recommended)
[attachimg=2]

Stand Parts
[attachimg=3]

4 identical legs
2* large bottom braces
2* small bottom braces
2** large top braces
2** small top braces

Note*: The large braces have a notch, make sure the notch is toward the top.
Note**: The small braces have a lip, make sure to have the lip toward the inside and top. The lip is to attach the table top.

Putting the stand together. Take 2 legs and a large bottom brace. Put on the 4 capscrews* hand tight.
[attachimg=4]

Put on a large top brace using 4 capscrews.
[attachimg=5]

Note*: All capscrews from the hardware bag are identical.

Repeat with the second side.
[attachimg=6]
You should have 2 identical parts, one with the Jessem logo that should go to the front table.

Time: 20-25 minutes

P.S. At this stage all capscrews are hand tight to ensure some play for when you put the top to the stand.
Title: Re: Jessem Router Table
Post by: Mario Turcot on May 20, 2020, 09:11 PM
The Casters
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0314/3902/8355/products/DSC5873_400x.jpg?v=1579823854)

Parts, hardware & instructions
[attachimg=1]

Remove the feet and slide in the attachment into the inside t-slot.
[attachimg=2]

Push in up to the attachment ridge and tight vigorously (not to the point to brake it tho).
[attachimg=3]
Sorry for the blury photo.

Add the casters mechanism using 2 capscrews & washers on each end.
[attachimg=4]

Add the casters mechanism to the other side* and put back the feet.
[attachimg=5]

Note*: Make sure to add the mechanism to the sides of the stand and not on the front/back.

Add the 4 wheels, ensure the nylon nuts** are toward the inside of the casters mechanism.
[attachimg=6]

Note** Do NOT over tight.

Here the result  [big grin]
[attachimg=7]

The feet will need to be adjust to the right hight.

Time: 12-15 minutes

P.S. At this point again all stand capscrews are hand tight.
Title: Re: Jessem Router Table
Post by: Mario Turcot on May 20, 2020, 09:11 PM
The Top & Lift
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0314/3902/8355/products/DSC4770_b003310e-b665-4f1f-9711-c14bea66f2b8_300x.jpg?v=1583444729)

The Top came with no hardware and no instruction. It's just a top  [wink] It was well packaged to protect both sides and corners.
[attachimg=1]

The Lift + hardware, came also with no instruction  [eek] There is instructoins on Jessem website but this time I improvised.
[attachimg=2]

2 Identical top reinforcement,
1 Dust port,
1 Handle support,
1 Remove insert tool,
4 Inserts,
1 Jessem T15 driver,
3 Allen keys,
1 Bag of hardware

Locate the lift gear box pocket from the top. The lift sits in that reses.
[attachimg=3]

Use 7 black screws to secure the lift.

Once all lift screws are done fix the 2 support using the self taped screws.
[attachimg=4]

P.S. Do NOT install the handle yet.
[attachimg=5]

Time: 20-25 minutes

Title: Re: Jessem Router Table
Post by: Mario Turcot on May 20, 2020, 09:11 PM
The Top, Stand & Fence

Putting together the stand and top start with some fence work.

The fence package
[attachimg=1]

Install the 2 identical fence supports.
[attachimg=2]

Install the base using 14 self taping screws included from the lift hardware. Thight the screws and install the handle.
[attachimg=3]

Finally tight all the capscrew bolts from the stand.
Title: Re: Jessem Router Table
Post by: Mario Turcot on May 20, 2020, 09:11 PM
The Router & the switch

To add the switch, you have to remove the 2 capscrews in the top front left leg. Use the same screws to fix it to the table.

3 years old Rigid R29302 with little use since I have the OF 1400
[attachimg=1]

The Ridgid use the B1 configuration, eazy peazy.

Now I need a hand to put it on the floor  [big grin]

Hopefully the router lock pin is easily accessible from the top  [smile]
[attachimg=2]
Title: Re: Jessem Router Table
Post by: Mario Turcot on May 20, 2020, 09:12 PM
The TA Fence & Stock Guides
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0314/3902/8355/products/DSC5117_300x.jpg?v=1579824175)

There is no point to comment on the TA fence. The instructions booklet is very well made and easy to follow.
Title: Re: Jessem Router Table
Post by: ChuckM on May 20, 2020, 09:20 PM
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Title: Re: Jessem Router Table
Post by: thawey on May 21, 2020, 09:49 AM
Enjoy, I have that exact set-up and it has been an absolute pleasure to work with.
Title: Re: Jessem Router Table
Post by: Mario Turcot on May 21, 2020, 03:18 PM
I now need to get on the other side of expenses. The router and the bits.

I already have a 2hp Ridgid, that will be installed on the router table. I'm looking for a compatible router from the following list;

• Porter Cable 7518 (4.2” Motor Dia.)                 [3.25 HP]
• Porter Cable 690/890 (3.5” Motor Dia.)            [1.75 HP & 2.25 HP]
• Bosch 1617/1618 (3.5” Motor Dia.)                  [2.25 HP]
DeWalt 610/618/616 (3.5” Motor Dia.)             [1.25 HP & 2.25 HP & 1.75 HP]
• Makita 1101 (3.218” Motor Dia.)                      [2.25 HP]
• Hitachi M12VC & KM12VC (3.267” Motor Dia.)   [2.25]
• Milwaukee 5625/5626 (4.143” Motor Dia.)         [3.5 HP]
• Milwaukee 5615/5616/5619 (3.32” Motor Dia.)  [1.75 HP]
• Craftsman 17543/17540/28190 (3.5” Motor Dia.)   [2 HP]
• Rigid R29302 (3.625” Motor Dia.)                      [2 HP]<< current option

Ideally I would like a PC 7518 or Milwaukee 5625 but the motor only. Do that option to buy even exist?

The bigger bits I will use is a raised panel bit
(https://s7d2.scene7.com/is/image/homedepotcanada/p_1000141988.jpg?$pipGallery$&id=kKQTn0&fmt=jpg&wid=250&hei=250)
Title: Re: Jessem Router Table
Post by: David on May 21, 2020, 03:50 PM
I now need to get on the other side of expenses. The router and the bits.

I already have a 2hp Ridgid, that will be installed on the router table. I'm looking for a compatible router from the following list;

• Porter Cable 7518 (4.2” Motor Dia.)                 [3.25 HP]
• Porter Cable 690/890 (3.5” Motor Dia.)            [1.75 HP & 2.25 HP]
• Bosch 1617/1618 (3.5” Motor Dia.)                  [2.25 HP]
DeWalt 610/618/616 (3.5” Motor Dia.)             [1.25 HP & 2.25 HP & 1.75 HP]
• Makita 1101 (3.218” Motor Dia.)                      [2.25 HP]
• Hitachi M12VC & KM12VC (3.267” Motor Dia.)   [2.25]
• Milwaukee 5625/5626 (4.143” Motor Dia.)         [3.5 HP]
• Milwaukee 5615/5616/5619 (3.32” Motor Dia.)  [1.75 HP]
• Craftsman 17543/17540/28190 (3.5” Motor Dia.)   [2 HP]
• Rigid R29302 (3.625” Motor Dia.)                      [2 HP]<< current option

Ideally I would like a PC 7518 or Milwaukee 5625 but the motor only. Do that option to buy even exist?

The bigger bits I will use is a raised panel bit
(https://s7d2.scene7.com/is/image/homedepotcanada/p_1000141988.jpg?$pipGallery$&id=kKQTn0&fmt=jpg&wid=250&hei=250)

I have an unopened 7518 I never used and would be willing to help you out if you're interested.
Title: Re: Jessem Router Table
Post by: rst on May 21, 2020, 05:31 PM
I've been using a PC 7518 in my router table  for 20+ years.  The lift is the origianal Benchdog which was marketed to small production shops for dedicated stations.  It is a beast...I bought from Tool Crib of the North, ehich was bought out byAmazon and now operates as Acme Tool.  I've routed wood, mostly quarter sawn oak, all kinds of plastics and even aluminum.  I have the Keen dust collection attached to an Incra Wonder fence using a Festool split hose for a CMS router table.
Title: Re: Jessem Router Table
Post by: Sparktrician on May 21, 2020, 05:47 PM
Mario, you might want to give the Milwaukee router with the remote control head from Jessem (https://www.vmtw.com/jessem-05200-pow-r-tek-3-1-4-hp-router-motor-with-evs-remote-control-box/) a very close look.  That would be my first choice, followed by the P-C 7518 router motor.  Good luck with that magnificent table setup!   [smile]
Title: Re: Jessem Router Table
Post by: Vondawg on May 21, 2020, 07:08 PM
Wow what a testament to QUALITY ...very nice !....in every way
Title: Re: Jessem Router Table
Post by: supimeister on May 21, 2020, 09:44 PM
I've wondered if I should switch from my current setup to something else, so I will be watching this thread closely.  I currently use a CMS-VL with the Incra Wonderfence on my mft/3.
Title: Re: Jessem Router Table
Post by: Mario Turcot on May 21, 2020, 11:16 PM
@Sparktrician I consider it untill this (https://www.festoolownersgroup.com/other-tools-accessories/jessem-pow-r-tek-motor-review/msg607659/#msg607659)  [crying]

I contact Jessem and request infos about that combo. They are still selling it but by phone only. The price was interesting too but I'm a bit suspicious. Looking at the box, I don't think it's a Milwaukee motor.
(https://www.festoolownersgroup.com/other-tools-accessories/jessem-pow-r-tek-motor-review/?action=dlattach;attach=278543;image)
Made in China  [eek]

I know the ideal router is the PC 7518. The lowest price I found id $495CAD so I was wondering if you can buy only the moter without any base for cheaper.
Title: Re: Jessem Router Table
Post by: Mario Turcot on May 21, 2020, 11:26 PM
Just found that Porter Cable 75182 (https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B0007SXHXM/ref=crt_ewc_img_huc_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB) on amazon. Can someone confirm if this is the same as PC 7518? this one is about $70 cheaper.
Title: Re: Jessem Router Table
Post by: Rick Herrick on May 21, 2020, 11:40 PM
Mario, I am just getting started on the router table journey.  From what I see it looks like the 7518 is the full router and the 75182 is the motor only.  Others can confirm or refute this.
Title: Re: Jessem Router Table
Post by: Sparktrician on May 22, 2020, 08:19 AM
@Sparktrician I consider it untill this (https://www.festoolownersgroup.com/other-tools-accessories/jessem-pow-r-tek-motor-review/msg607659/#msg607659)  [crying]

Made in China  [eek]

I know the ideal router is the PC 7518. The lowest price I found id $495CAD so I was wondering if you can buy only the moter without any base for cheaper.


Well, that IS disappointing, for sure.  That makes the decision to use the P-C 75182 even easier.  The 75182 is just the motor only.
Title: Re: Jessem Router Table
Post by: Steve1 on May 22, 2020, 08:24 AM
The Jessem pieces are really nice.   Not inexpensive, but when you look at the components, you can see you are getting your money's worth. 
Title: Re: Jessem Router Table
Post by: Joe Felchlin on May 22, 2020, 02:32 PM
Mario:
Great choice!
I bought this Jessem table and setup 10+ years ago -
Mounted a dedicated PC7518 to it.
Great power and variable speed.
Then I “hosed“ a Dust Deputy and Festool CT33 (still runnin’) to it.

I strongly recommend a couple of dedicated offset wrenches for the PC7518 -
To make router bit changes easy. I hang ‘em on hooks attached to the table legs.
Relatively cheap - Rockler - Woodcraft

Over the years I’ve added a Rousseau power bar “kill switch”.
https://rousseauco.com/product/safety-power-switch/

And the JessEm Clear-Cut Router Table Stock Guides
https://jessem.com/collections/router-table-accessories/products/clear-cut-stock-guides

Guaranteed... You will love it. [thumbs up]
Title: Re: Jessem Router Table
Post by: rst on May 22, 2020, 04:31 PM
The offset wrenches will make changes easier but the easiest solution is the Eliminator Chuck.  I've been using one since it was originally offer...waaay back when.  It extends the chuck and only requires an allen wrench.  This is especially useful to me as I use the Keen dust collection which has a silicone cup that that fits over the chuck and works better with the extended chuck.
Title: Re: Jessem Router Table
Post by: Df1k1 on May 22, 2020, 05:20 PM
Very timely and bookmarked! Will be purchasing this later in the year. This will definitely come in handy. I’ll be outfitting it with the porter cable. My only question is the top looks like it may scratch easily. Almost like a saw stop extension table which I found a scratches  easily.
Any comments?
Title: Re: Jessem Router Table
Post by: SRSemenza on May 22, 2020, 05:41 PM
Will the stock guides fit in the black T track outfeed fence? Or will they only fit in the upper gold track?

Did the kit come with the swinging arm type bit safety guard?

Seth
Title: Re: Jessem Router Table
Post by: Mario Turcot on May 22, 2020, 05:52 PM
@rst That's an interesting accessory. My Ridgid router requires that I push a button to lock the motor and that bvutton will be under the table.
Title: Re: Jessem Router Table
Post by: Mario Turcot on May 22, 2020, 06:22 PM
@SRSemenza
Will the stock guides fit in the black T track outfeed fence? Or will they only fit in the upper gold track?

Did the kit come with the swinging arm type bit safety guard?

Seth

Yes the stock guides fit in both T-tracks
The swinging guard is part of the TA Fence

Can you find the error?
[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: Jessem Router Table
Post by: Svar on May 22, 2020, 06:38 PM
The offset wrenches will make changes easier but the easiest solution is the Eliminator Chuck.  I've been using one since it was originally offer...waaay back when. 
How do you like it? Do you ever experience any excessive vibration?
I'm tempted but skeptical. Traditional collet is self centering, while Eliminator is not. I do see some small variation of shank diameters between bits.
Title: Re: Jessem Router Table
Post by: Mario Turcot on May 22, 2020, 07:15 PM
@Svar Found this website (https://www.musclechuck.com/compatibility/#). Expensive tho!
Title: Re: Jessem Router Table
Post by: Mario Turcot on May 22, 2020, 08:10 PM
@Df1k1
Very timely and bookmarked! Will be purchasing this later in the year. This will definitely come in handy. I’ll be outfitting it with the porter cable. My only question is the top looks like it may scratch easily. Almost like a saw stop extension table which I found a scratches  easily.
Any comments?

Yes the top might be easy to scratch but it's rock solid. I am really impressed by all part of that table. The only thing that I was worrie about is the lift package do not include the instructions. I did put it together without any problem. The instruction are available from Jessem website tho.
Title: Re: Jessem Router Table
Post by: rst on May 22, 2020, 08:32 PM
I've been using for years now, wood, plastic and aluminum with no problems.
Title: Re: Jessem Router Table
Post by: hdv on May 23, 2020, 06:03 AM
I bought the Musclechuck some years ago and have used it almost exclusively since then in my router table (which has a AUKTools motor in it, because PC type units with a motor only are *very* hard to come by here in Europe). I have to say that I am very satisfied with it. No vibration, no slipping, it just works. I do have a set of different sized collets for it, but have to admit that I did not try the largest ones yet. There is some trepidation doing that. Somehow I feel it is better to stick with a traditional chuck for 10 and 12 mm shanks. However, for 6 mm, 1/4", and 8 mm shanks it is a wonderful accessory. Maybe I should just try the larger ones sometime shortly...  [embarassed]

All in all I really like this Musclechuck.
Title: Re: Jessem Router Table
Post by: Mario Turcot on May 28, 2020, 12:48 AM
First use of the table a few days ago. It was my very first experience with a router table. I did some round over on some shelves  [eek] wow couldn't be easier then that. It's a simple task I know  [embarassed]

Very happy with the package so far.

I have a few jigs to build for now  [wink]
Title: Re: Jessem Router Table
Post by: martin felder on May 28, 2020, 02:33 AM
I have a few jigs to build for now  [wink]

then, there is storage to build under the router table!  I used to have a Jointech fence.  JoinTech is now out of business unfortunately.  The guy that owned the company had plans for a cabinet I built many years ago.  It had really nice drawers for bits.  I ended up making a few changes and no longer have that cabinet.  My new router table has a few features I want, but the stand made out of 2x4s and plywood does not have drawers.  Some day. 
Title: Re: Jessem Router Table
Post by: Mario Turcot on May 28, 2020, 09:05 AM
Yes, storage under the table is a must no doubt. I plan to make systainer inserts that will also slide like a drawer under the table. Here my base design in Easel (https://www.inventables.com/projects/t-loc-systainer-insert)

I will be using those bit holders from L.V.
(https://assets.leevalley.com/Size4/10060/56500-brass-bit-holders-u-01.jpg)
They are taper and the bits are easy to remove. I have 50 of each to start with  [big grin]
Title: Re: Jessem Router Table
Post by: Mario Turcot on June 29, 2020, 11:37 PM
Been using the Jessem Router Table for a month now, love it. I am thinking of adding a Wixey Digital Readout. Any one have experience with it?

I can get the original readout for about 100$ and the one from jessem is 162$ but come with a plate specifically made to fit on the Jessem strand. I was wondering if this is the only difference from the original.

The excell package make raising/lowering the router bit so easy  [big grin] No tool to worry about.
The stand, feet & casters make the table extremely rigid, stable and easy to move.
Title: Re: Jessem Router Table
Post by: ear3 on June 30, 2020, 09:12 AM
Are you talking about one that attaches directly to the lift mechanism, or a free standing gauge like the Wixey WR200 (https://www.acmetools.com/shop/tools/wixey-wr200)?

Been using the Jessem Router Table for a month now, love it. I am thinking of adding a Wixey Digital Readout. Any one have experience with it?

I can get the original readout for about 100$ and the one from jessem is 162$ but come with a plate specifically made to fit on the Jessem strand. I was wondering if this is the only difference from the original.

The excell package make raising/lowering the router bit so easy  [big grin] No tool to worry about.
The stand, feet & casters make the table extremely rigid, stable and easy to move.
Title: Re: Jessem Router Table
Post by: Mario Turcot on June 30, 2020, 11:24 AM
The one attached to the router.

Jessem Wixey version
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0314/3902/8355/products/digital_readout_400x.jpg?v=1579823985)
Original Wixey
[attach=1]

Another concern I have is about the ability to remove the fence from the back  [eek]
Title: Re: Jessem Router Table
Post by: Stan Tillinghast on July 29, 2020, 10:09 PM
Mario, thanks for the extended post. I’m looking at the Jessem (recommended by others here).
The ALTS stand has aluminum extruded legs, it looks like there are tracks one can slip plywood in to enclose the legs? If I get this I would like to make a dust collection box for it.

Regarding a motor: I looked at the Jessem Pow-R-Tek but it seems to be off the market now per Amazon, and there is only one really devastating review. Too bad because remote speed control would be great.

Another choice, which will fit the lift, is the Milwaukee 5625-20, a 3.25 hp beast. It has electronic speed control but not remotely controlled.

Any advice on a motor from others more experienced?
I do have a Bosch 1617 (IIRC) I can use for the time being if I get the Jessem setup.