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Offline broseiden

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Jessem Clear Cut TS guides on jobsite saw?
« on: July 07, 2019, 03:07 AM »
I bought the Jessem Clear Cut TS guides recently with the intention of mounting them on my Dewalt DWE7491. I opened the box up today to start thinking about mounting them, and it looks like I could cut ~6" / 150mm off of the track, so that it fits on top of the fence, but still allows the fence to flip out and function as it normally would (if the rollers are removed). The other option that came to mind is to assemble an auxiliary fence in the shape of an inverted U that would fit over and around the stock fence, and mount the Jessem track on top of that.

Either way would be easy enough -- Just wondering if I'm overlooking any better solutions... Has anyone here bothered using these with a jobsite saw and if so, what route did you take? 

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Offline Birdhunter

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Re: Jessem Clear Cut TS guides on jobsite saw?
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2019, 05:26 AM »
I mounted my guides on a 3/4” strip of oak the length of my fence. I mounted a MagSwitch at each end of the oak strip.

When I need the guides, I put the oak strip with the mounted guides on top of the fence and turn on the MagSwitches.

The only downside is that I lose 3/4” of downward travel of the guides. This has never been a problem for me.
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Offline DynaGlide

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Re: Jessem Clear Cut TS guides on jobsite saw?
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2019, 05:40 AM »
I own the guides for the router table. I bought woodpeckers 24 inch super track and plan on bolting it to the front of my fence using T bolts. I believe I can use the router guides on the track for the same effect at a fraction of the cost. The 24 inch track will give me better registration before the blade since it's a couple inches longer than the dw745 fence.
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Offline RKA

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Re: Jessem Clear Cut TS guides on jobsite saw?
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2019, 08:41 AM »
As dynaglide suggested, you’re on the right track with the inverted U because you can make it longer to provide more fence registration on the infeed. 
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Offline ear3

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Re: Jessem Clear Cut TS guides on jobsite saw?
« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2019, 08:50 AM »
The Jessem guides are fantastic -- post pics of whatever you come up with.

Maybe this won't be an issue with your saw and its fence design, but I would just note that those guides produce a lot of lift/upward pressure when engaged, and so have the potential of lifting a fence slightly out of square if its locking mechanism is subpar.  This isn't an issue for me on my TS fence, but I have noticed this with the smaller rollers mounted to my Kreg router table, where I have to be sensitive to how much pressure the rollers are producing and what that does to the Kreg fence.

I bought the Jessem Clear Cut TS guides recently with the intention of mounting them on my Dewalt DWE7491. I opened the box up today to start thinking about mounting them, and it looks like I could cut ~6" / 150mm off of the track, so that it fits on top of the fence, but still allows the fence to flip out and function as it normally would (if the rollers are removed). The other option that came to mind is to assemble an auxiliary fence in the shape of an inverted U that would fit over and around the stock fence, and mount the Jessem track on top of that.

Either way would be easy enough -- Just wondering if I'm overlooking any better solutions... Has anyone here bothered using these with a jobsite saw and if so, what route did you take?
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Offline Birdhunter

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Re: Jessem Clear Cut TS guides on jobsite saw?
« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2019, 05:11 PM »
Thanks for the information. The 3/4” oak strip sits on top of my fence. I don’t lose any lateral range, just vertical range. I didn’t see the video you mention. I use MagSwitches a lot in my jigs.
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Offline broseiden

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Re: Jessem Clear Cut TS guides on jobsite saw?
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2019, 12:20 PM »
Thanks for info everyone! Now I just need to find the time :o

Offline 1966am

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Jessem Clear Cut TS guides on jobsite saw?
« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2020, 12:20 AM »
broseiden
Hi, I wondered if you in fact did add the JessEm Clear Cut guides to your mobile table saw.

I have a sawstop and I am looking to design something to make the sawstop fence and Jessie clear cut guides work together and I am a newbie woodworker. Would you have any ideas based on your experience?

I get it will more than likely be a fence built around my fence.

Has anyone tackled this?

Thanks, Anna
« Last Edit: August 13, 2020, 10:56 PM by 1966am »

Offline neilc

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Re: Jessem Clear Cut TS guides on jobsite saw?
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2020, 04:02 PM »
Anna - I have a Sawstop Jobsite Pro saw and was going to explore the Jessem guides on it.  I think it might take some effort but will need to take the fence apart to learn more.

The downside of a fence around the current fence is you do lose the accuracy of the linear scale for rip widths.  But might be worth it.

On a normal Sawstop, there are lots of users using the TS Guides.  Which model of SawStop do you have?

Offline ChuckM

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Re: Jessem Clear Cut TS guides on jobsite saw?
« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2020, 06:06 PM »
Snip.

I get it will more than likely be a fence built around my fence.

Has anyone tackled this?

Thanks, Anna

I'm assuming yours is also a SawStop Jobsite. Jessem is a friendly merchant, and you can contact them to see if they have any suggestions or solutions.

I haven't come across a SawStop Jobsite that's fitted with the Jessem Stock Guide. This woodworker uses it on an extrusion instead of the factory track that came with the guide:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaSLoaDgpeE&feature=youtu.be&t=365

Safety caution: The way he set the guide is incorrect. For proper tension, the rollers should not be in contact with the wood when setting the guide.

« Last Edit: August 14, 2020, 06:09 PM by ChuckM »

Offline Don T

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Re: Jessem Clear Cut TS guides on jobsite saw?
« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2020, 07:27 PM »
This is something I have thought about doing but have not tackled that beast yet. Looking forward to everyone’s thoughts.
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Re: Jessem Clear Cut TS guides on jobsite saw?
« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2020, 10:01 PM »
Anna - I have a Sawstop Jobsite Pro saw and was going to explore the Jessem guides on it.  I think it might take some effort but will need to take the fence apart to learn more.

The downside of a fence around the current fence is you do lose the accuracy of the linear scale for rip widths.  But might be worth it.

On a normal Sawstop, there are lots of users using the TS Guides.  Which model of SawStop do you have?
I have a saw stop job site saw also,and have been kicking this idea around .
I think I’m going to use a threaded insert on the stock saw fence, and some short machine screws to attach the guides.
Before I try this, I want to make sure I can get a replacement fence . Just in case it doesn’t work.
I’ll post pictures when I try it.
Cheers ,Charlie


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Offline Birdhunter

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Re: Jessem Clear Cut TS guides on jobsite saw?
« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2020, 08:56 PM »
Unless the rollers are in contact with the wood how can one be sure the roller pressure is proper?
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Offline ChuckM

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Re: Jessem Clear Cut TS guides on jobsite saw?
« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2020, 09:17 PM »
The proper tension is set when the wood touches the outside edge (not the rollers) of the stock guide :


It's under tension when the guides are set by placing the rollers on the wood surface.
« Last Edit: August 15, 2020, 09:33 PM by ChuckM »

Offline Alanbach

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Re: Jessem Clear Cut TS guides on jobsite saw?
« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2020, 09:54 PM »
@Birdhunter - Jessem made the body of the guides set back a bit (almost an 1/8”) from the surface of the rollers so that you are supposed to push the body down onto the workpiece while setting. That way the tension is built in and consistent. When I first got these I had to get used to setting The fence first, then the roller height (and therefore the tension) correctly before raising the blade to proper height. Once I got used to setting the blade height last it became super easy and convenient.

Offline neilc

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Re: Jessem Clear Cut TS guides on jobsite saw?
« Reply #15 on: August 15, 2020, 11:34 PM »
There is a lot going on in the Sawstop Pro fence - clamping mechanism, slide out tray for wider cuts, the 1” addition you can move to the front for narrow cuts, etc.  But I’m interested @pettyconstruction if you go down that path!

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Re: Jessem Clear Cut TS guides on jobsite saw?
« Reply #16 on: August 15, 2020, 11:44 PM »
There is a lot going on in the Sawstop Pro fence - clamping mechanism, slide out tray for wider cuts, the 1” addition you can move to the front for narrow cuts, etc.  But I’m interested @pettyconstruction if you go down that path!
I have the legacy fence,but ,I will give it a try when I make sure I can get a fence replaced if it goes wrong.
Charlie


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Re: Jessem Clear Cut TS guides on jobsite saw?
« Reply #17 on: August 16, 2020, 12:31 AM »
Ok, thanks for the video. I‘ll try setting the roller tension using that method. I’m and old dog, but teachable.
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Offline Chris Cianci

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Re: Jessem Clear Cut TS guides on jobsite saw?
« Reply #18 on: August 16, 2020, 07:12 AM »
There is a lot going on in the Sawstop Pro fence - clamping mechanism, slide out tray for wider cuts, the 1” addition you can move to the front for narrow cuts, etc.  But I’m interested @pettyconstruction if you go down that path!
I have the legacy fence,but ,I will give it a try when I make sure I can get a fence replaced if it goes wrong.
Charlie

Hi Charlie I’d be interested in your results as well as my SS Jobsite saw arrives next week
Thanks for venturing forward on this
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Offline derekcohen

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Re: Jessem Clear Cut TS guides on jobsite saw?
« Reply #19 on: August 16, 2020, 09:52 AM »
The Jessem guides are excellent and a valuable addition. I have a Hammer K3 slider, and do some ripping on that. When I want a glue line rip, there is nothing like the rip fence guide . It does this by ensuring that the work piece does not waver, that is, it is pulled tightly against the rip fence ...





To use these on the K3 fence, which has a number of adjustments, it needed to be easily removable. I built a custom fitting.

I have just fitted the guides to a router fence I built (which is on the table saw outfeed). Again to ensure that the work piece is locked against the fence ...





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