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GENERAL DISCUSSIONS => Other Tools & Accessories => Topic started by: HAXIT on April 01, 2018, 03:58 AM

Title: Finally,finally,finally I got the best jig saw!
Post by: HAXIT on April 01, 2018, 03:58 AM
April fool.
 [big grin]
Title: Re: Finally,finally,finally I got the best jig saw!
Post by: Mario Turcot on April 01, 2018, 12:06 PM
OMG I had no clue  [eek]
Title: Re: Finally,finally,finally I got the best jig saw!
Post by: ben_r_ on April 05, 2018, 02:13 PM
Nice! Knew it couldnt be true!
Title: Re: Finally,finally,finally I got the best jig saw!
Post by: Richard/RMW on April 05, 2018, 05:26 PM
And here I thought I was the only guy with a dislike-hate relationship with every jigsaw I've ever owned...

RMW
Title: Re: Finally,finally,finally I got the best jig saw!
Post by: Upscale on April 05, 2018, 07:54 PM
April fool. [big grin]

I figured you'd bought a Mafell P1cc Jigsaw.  [sad] Disappointed...
Title: Re: Finally,finally,finally I got the best jig saw!
Post by: Henrik R / Pingvinlakrits on April 07, 2018, 04:13 AM
I clicked this thread twice. Guess I win the (best of being) Stupid Prize. [big grin]
Title: Re: Finally,finally,finally I got the best jig saw!
Post by: Tinker on April 07, 2018, 05:59 AM
I clicked this thread twice. Guess I win the (best of being) Stupid Prize. [big grin]

Henrick,
No you don't win the Stupid Prize.  Even tho I tuned in late, I kept looking to find what Haxit's choice. Every time i checked in, i slid right past the "April Fool" part.  It was not until I read your post that I actually went back to check what your were talking about. Again, I slid right on past the qualifier and had to go back again. I actually could not believe even @HAXIT could actually find a perfect jig saw; still I kept right on biting.  :'(
Tinker
Title: Re: Finally,finally,finally I got the best jig saw!
Post by: HAXIT on April 07, 2018, 01:30 PM
OK,folks well it was Saturday night and I could not sleep so I just saw the date and day at the right hand corner of the computer and just came up with this otherwise I would not remember it myself.
I see this jig saw post all over and not just here at FOG. So I am not trying to start a another one unless it is informative and educational. As I have never post anything about this here is my thought about this tool.
I do have the Carvex and the accessory kit and I do not have any love or hate about it. I do use it a lot in the basement and it is slowly become a primary tool in the garage with the combination of  800mm track. If you look under my shop build thread, I removed the old stairs completely and build a new one. Only one saw was used for this whole project and it was carvex and now I wish that I should have some pictures but I was not thinking that it was anything to share at the time and it is too late now.
Here is what I do not like about this tool respectfully.
1.The dust collector is not good enough which is important is the case of jig saw.
2.The blades are not the best one the way they advertise them.
3.The splinterguard which is made out of plastic. They get destroyed or burn. Why do not make them out of ceramic with the machined line already made for the blade thickness.Instead of selling 20 pieces of plastic for $26.00, why not sell 5 pieces of ceramics for the same price when it would last x4? This tool have had price increase more then 4 times, I have no problem with that and I do understand business but how about a small improvement?
Conclusion,
This tool never intended to be perfect by any manufacture but it is useful if you use it in the way it should be use in the right places.
 
 
Title: Re: Finally,finally,finally I got the best jig saw!
Post by: Richard/RMW on April 07, 2018, 01:39 PM
I had the Carvex but never used it so let it move on to a good home. Never really developed an affinity for it. A cordless DeWalt handled my typical hack-it-in-half jigsaw work.

Last week I used the DW to rough out some 8/4 walnut stock to be template routed and it really sucked. I ruined a couple pieces by cutting too close to the line and then realizing the cut angled in by 3-4mm from top to bottom.

Now I'm wondering if I need a better/corded saw again, was looking at the older TRION PS 300. Anyone have any input on that saw for working in thicker hardwoods?

RMW
Title: Re: Finally,finally,finally I got the best jig saw!
Post by: Svar on April 07, 2018, 02:31 PM
3.The splinterguard which is made out of plastic. They get destroyed or burn. Why do not make them out of ceramic with the machined line already made for the blade thickness.
Because it will destroy the blade. Blade rubs against it, so it has to be made of soft material.
Title: Re: Finally,finally,finally I got the best jig saw!
Post by: rst on April 07, 2018, 02:55 PM
Next to the Kapex, jigsaws are probably the most maligned tool on this group.  Jigsaws, unless you're willing to spend $800.00, are not and never will be precision tools.  My first was a B&D back in the early 70s.  I retired that to buy a Bosch, which I still own, in the early 80's.  I've cut wood, aluminum, brass, steel, glass, and ceramic with that saw.  Feeling that I deserved a new and improved, I bought the corded Carvex when it came out and liked it well enough to buy the cordless version that lives in my van.  My decision was based on the fact that I had just bought the HKC and could share the battery platform.  Adjusting the blades properly is the most important feature of the saws.  The nature of the cutting action insures that dust collection will never be a strong point for any jigsaw and the Carvex collects just as much as my old Bosch and I really don't expect more of them.
Title: Re: Finally,finally,finally I got the best jig saw!
Post by: HAXIT on April 07, 2018, 03:29 PM
I had the Carvex but never used it so let it move on to a good home. Never really developed an affinity for it. A cordless DeWalt handled my typical hack-it-in-half jigsaw work.

Last week I used the DW to rough out some 8/4 walnut stock to be template routed and it really sucked. I ruined a couple pieces by cutting too close to the line and then realizing the cut angled in by 3-4mm from top to bottom.

Now I'm wondering if I need a better/corded saw again, was looking at the older TRION PS 300. Anyone have any input on that saw for working in thicker hardwoods?

RMW
Try Metabo
https://www.metabo.com/us/enus/tools/saws/jigsaws/steb-140-601402420-jigsaw.html
Title: Re: Finally,finally,finally I got the best jig saw!
Post by: kcufstoidi on April 07, 2018, 03:41 PM
Richard the Trion is another Jigsaw thats gets bashing from users that don't take the time to adjust the blade guides properly or plain and simple don't take the time to know how to adjust them properly. A few years ago there was a Youtube video of a European company trying to push Mafell jigsaws after Festool had dropped them. They were using a Trion with the guides adjusted way to tight and melting blades. For anyone that knew better it was hilarious to watch these meatheads at work. I've personally never had a blade failure from the guides. Any other jigsaw doesn't integrate well the the Festool system especially if you use the boom setup with the plugit cord and dust hose sleeved. I've cut 4" hard maple in a 4" radius with about a 1/32 deflection at the worst point and again it takes the right blade with careful setup but is doable/repeatable. I don't really care what others think but in my books that's pretty hard to beat even with saws costing 3 and 4 times as much. When I bought my Trion it was $200.00 CDN.
Title: Re: Finally,finally,finally I got the best jig saw!
Post by: Richard/RMW on April 07, 2018, 04:00 PM
Makes sense. I've always broken tools down broadly into construction versus carpentry (don't get too hung up on the chosen words) quality. I've got carpentry chisels for paring and construction chisels for hacking out material.

To me jigsaws have always been construction tools, I only use them to hack stuff down to rough size or do a sink cutout.

I'll probably stick with the DW. Just ordered a 10" Rikon bandsaw which (when I figger out where to put it) should handle the limited amount of rough profiling I do for template routing etc.

Thanks.

RMW
Title: Re: Finally,finally,finally I got the best jig saw!
Post by: Sanderxpander on April 07, 2018, 04:44 PM
Actually in that test it was the Carvex that got a melted blade, the Trion came out as second most preferred after the Mafell which echoes a lot of posts on this forum. While the motivations of the testers may have been dubious (in response to a dubious relationship with Festool), the Mafell is a really good jigsaw which anyone will confirm, and the Trion is still popular in spite of the arrival of the Carvex.
Title: Re: Finally,finally,finally I got the best jig saw!
Post by: kcufstoidi on April 07, 2018, 05:22 PM
Sorry Sanderxpander but the Youtube from 2012 where it takes the Carvex forever to make the cut isn't the one I was referring too. The video was actually removed because of actions by Festool and before the Carvex was even in testing. Some long term forum members might remember the one I'm referring too. The Mafell is a good jigsaw but then it should be for what it costs. Personally I would like to try the newer Bosch offering with the self adjusting blades for comparison to the Trion at a more reasonable price than the Mafell offering. Still wondering what happened with the Toolnut/Mafell relationship.
Title: Re: Finally,finally,finally I got the best jig saw!
Post by: Cheese on April 07, 2018, 05:30 PM
Still wondering what happened with the Toolnut/Mafell relationship.

You're not alone... [eek]...I need some items for my P1 cc.
Title: Re: Finally,finally,finally I got the best jig saw!
Post by: Sanderxpander on April 07, 2018, 06:20 PM
Sorry Sanderxpander but the Youtube from 2012 where it takes the Carvex forever to make the cut isn't the one I was referring too. The video was actually removed because of actions by Festool and before the Carvex was even in testing. Some long term forum members might remember the one I'm referring too. The Mafell is a good jigsaw but then it should be for what it costs. Personally I would like to try the newer Bosch offering with the self adjusting blades for comparison to the Trion at a more reasonable price than the Mafell offering. Still wondering what happened with the Toolnut/Mafell relationship.
Ah ok sorry totally assumed you meant that one.
Title: Re: Finally,finally,finally I got the best jig saw!
Post by: HAXIT on April 08, 2018, 09:31 PM
Here is the good one.
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ug2IbkusiUk
Title: Re: Finally,finally,finally I got the best jig saw!
Post by: ben_r_ on April 08, 2018, 10:10 PM
Here is the good one.
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ug2IbkusiUk
How is it they knew back in THE THIRTIES that we need a light on a hand power tool and today there's still hardly any that have them??!?!?
Title: Re: Finally,finally,finally I got the best jig saw!
Post by: Retired Chippy on April 08, 2018, 11:50 PM
Anybody old enough to remember these?  [poke]
Title: Re: Finally,finally,finally I got the best jig saw!
Post by: Henrik R / Pingvinlakrits on April 09, 2018, 03:31 PM
I clicked this thread twice. Guess I win the (best of being) Stupid Prize. [big grin]

Henrick,
No you don't win the Stupid Prize.  Even tho I tuned in late, I kept looking to find what Haxit's choice. Every time i checked in, i slid right past the "April Fool" part.  It was not until I read your post that I actually went back to check what your were talking about. Again, I slid right on past the qualifier and had to go back again. I actually could not believe even @HAXIT could actually find a perfect jig saw; still I kept right on biting.  :'(
Tinker

OK Tinker, we'll share the podium on this one.  [big grin]