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Offline 3PedalMINI

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FEIN tool vs. rip off oscillating tools?
« on: March 22, 2014, 03:07 PM »
Hey guys, Ive been needing an oscillating tool more and more lately and currently have one of those rockwell $50 specials from lowes. It works OK but i havent been happy with it. Im wondering if i will be much more thrilled with a real FEIN tool? things i dont like with the rip off one is how much the actual body vibrates and cutting is very slow to the point where i try avoid using it as much as possible.

Sell me on a real fein tool? :D

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Offline SittingElf

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Re: FEIN tool vs. rip off oscillating tools?
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2014, 03:49 PM »
Hold on to your cheapy right now. Here's what may be coming to your neighborhood before long.... in green!

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Offline 3PedalMINI

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Re: FEIN tool vs. rip off oscillating tools?
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2014, 04:12 PM »
Noooooooo Dont Tease me like that! I have been really wishing for a festool oscillating tool  [big grin]

Did they announce this at connect?
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Offline SittingElf

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Re: FEIN tool vs. rip off oscillating tools?
« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2014, 04:24 PM »
I don't know when it is coming to the USA, but it is available in Europe on April 1st.  I think it's going to put a dent in Fein's business, plus it has a vertical component that is unique.

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Offline Joseph C

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Re: FEIN tool vs. rip off oscillating tools?
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2014, 04:37 PM »
The new Festool looks sweet, but Fein lowered th price of their Supercut quite a bit lately.
On the other hand, you can pick up a perfectly good Multimaster for less than $200, and vibration and oower will blow await your Rockwell. 
My first Multimaster lasted more than 12 years. I tried replacing it with two different Bosch versions inside a year and a half, and then bought another Fein.

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Offline andyman

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Re: FEIN tool vs. rip off oscillating tools?
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2014, 05:22 PM »
Fein m [thumbs up]m

Offline panelchat

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Re: FEIN tool vs. rip off oscillating tools?
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2014, 05:30 PM »
every aspect of the fein exudes high quality. it is built like a gun. you could probably drive a tank over it and keep using it. i would never hesitate to buy one if it turned out i needed it. a great value at 200 bucks.

(i assume the festool will be similarly satisfying to use...)

Offline waltwood

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Re: FEIN tool vs. rip off oscillating tools?
« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2014, 06:06 PM »
I have owned 5 multi-tools including the Fein. We were using them daily in the remodeling business and I said every day I don't know how we did with out them. The Fein does look and feel like a high quality tool but it does not cut better than the cheapos. I have 2 harbor freight tools and they are almost as good as the Fein for $29. Now than I found the Imperial blades I am even more pleased with them. Last time I priced a Fein blade they were $35 and I am sure they are less now but I pay $7 for the harbor freight ones. Save you money for other Festools.

Offline PA floor guy

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Re: FEIN tool vs. rip off oscillating tools?
« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2014, 06:42 PM »
I am a flooring guy.  I use these tools very often.  I have 7-8 of them.  5 feins, and a few cheapos, I will tell you, there is nothing currently available (till festool releases) that is even close to the quality of the fein tools.  They take a crazy beating and keep working.  I also have a Bosch, rockwell, and PC, these are ok, but you will burn up 5 of them before you burn up 1 multi master.   

Offline mike68au

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Re: FEIN tool vs. rip off oscillating tools?
« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2014, 08:34 PM »
I had a Bosch 10.8v for a while and i just stopped using it, as i felt it couldn't do what i needed it to do, but since buying the Fein 14.4v i have found a new love for the Multi Tool and it is effectively my go to small cutting tool.

Offline Bikeboy80

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Re: FEIN tool vs. rip off oscillating tools?
« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2014, 08:35 PM »
My vote is for the Milwaukee 12v multi tool. It is not the most powerful one out there but it is so nice to have it cordless. [smile]
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Offline ali

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Re: FEIN tool vs. rip off oscillating tools?
« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2014, 08:49 PM »
I'd nominate the makita 18v multi tool, I like fein and festool but makita is good for me.

Offline batcave

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Re: FEIN tool vs. rip off oscillating tools?
« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2014, 09:11 PM »
I have the fein. It works great. But keep your finger out of the way when you close the quick release lever. It's a knuckle buster!

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Offline tallgrass

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Re: FEIN tool vs. rip off oscillating tools?
« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2014, 02:00 AM »
I have been a Festool cool aid drinker too long to think that the Festool multi tool will be in the USA any time soon. Heck the April fool's day release day is telling:). I have to admit I can't wait. The nut on my supercut just broke.:(

Offline jmbfestool

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Re: FEIN tool vs. rip off oscillating tools?
« Reply #14 on: March 23, 2014, 04:48 AM »
My vote is for the Milwaukee 12v multi tool. It is not the most powerful one out there but it is so nice to have it cordless. [smile]
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I got the Milwaukee  cordless.   I use it because its soooo handy to just do a quick cut without a lead but my corded Fein cuts so much nicer less vibration.

I would of bought the Fein cordless but I already had the Milwuakee cordless when they released the cordless Fein.


 
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Re: FEIN tool vs. rip off oscillating tools?
« Reply #15 on: March 23, 2014, 04:49 AM »
I have the fein. It works great. But keep your finger out of the way when you close the quick release lever. It's a knuckle buster!

Kevin


Yip I got caught out once not long after I bought it.    It comes down hard and it does hurt lol
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Offline bigjonh

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Re: FEIN tool vs. rip off oscillating tools?
« Reply #16 on: March 23, 2014, 06:32 AM »
I have the Fein and the Makita cordless. I'm using the cordless more and more. The word on the street is that Fein is making Festools version anyway, so I doubt they are losing sleep.

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Re: FEIN tool vs. rip off oscillating tools?
« Reply #17 on: March 23, 2014, 09:24 AM »
Well, you have more options now that Fein cut the price of their Supercut model so drastically.
I own the smaller Multi-Master model and love it. I also have an air powered Harbor Freight version for those times where water or a wet location would be an issue for my electric tool.
With either stock attachments or aftermarket blades, the Fein excels and has less vibration than other corded knock offs of this type of tool that I've tried,  but try one at a dealer to make up your own mind.
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Offline 3PedalMINI

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Re: FEIN tool vs. rip off oscillating tools?
« Reply #18 on: March 24, 2014, 11:46 AM »
Thanks guys for all your input! Im going to go ahead and get the supercut, i can always sell it when/if the festool one releases over here in the states.

Will a supercut and basic blade accessories fit in a sys one or was the insert designed for a sys2?
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Offline cnewport

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Re: FEIN tool vs. rip off oscillating tools?
« Reply #19 on: March 24, 2014, 12:38 PM »
Thanks guys for all your input! Im going to go ahead and get the supercut, i can always sell it when/if the festool one releases over here in the states.

Will a supercut and basic blade accessories fit in a sys one or was the insert designed for a sys2?

Need a sys2.

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Re: FEIN tool vs. rip off oscillating tools?
« Reply #20 on: March 25, 2014, 03:58 PM »
350 Watt, constant electronic, 1.7 degree amplitude




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Re: FEIN tool vs. rip off oscillating tools?
« Reply #21 on: March 25, 2014, 07:12 PM »
350 Watt, constant electronic, 1.7 degree amplitude






Nice! Looks like it has a pivot point
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Re: FEIN tool vs. rip off oscillating tools?
« Reply #22 on: April 23, 2014, 05:21 PM »
You won't be disappointed. I just bought mine and have been using it on a couple bath remodels. Sometimes a little frustrating on how slow it cuts certain materials but as long as you have the right blade for the job it usually gets it done with less mess than say a rotozip or the like. It would be nice if they made a vac attachment that went out to the end of the blade with a plunge action so that you could capture the dust.

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Re: FEIN tool vs. rip off oscillating tools?
« Reply #23 on: April 23, 2014, 05:35 PM »
Ive been using the Fein MM for a few years now.  Great tool but the switch gets sticky from time to time.  Gave it a squirt of silicone spray & that does it for a while though.  I copied JRB & put a pigtail on mine.  Its pimped  ;D
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Offline Larso

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Re: FEIN tool vs. rip off oscillating tools?
« Reply #24 on: April 23, 2014, 08:52 PM »
Have had the Fien MM and the Fien dust extractor for many years which i bought in a deal at Brisbane Carbatec,this replaced an earlier model stolen on site.You know there good when they get stolen right?

Anyway it had done plenty of work plunging into Australian hardwoods so had earnt its keep by then,anyway the Fien tools have always been excellent although lately i have been using my Makita LXT cordless one.This is not quite up to the build quality of the fien and does vibrate in your hand more during use but works well enough.

As space in the ute is at a premium i am carrying more and more cordless tools and leaving all my corded tools in the shed in the last few years.

The makita blades are cheaper than the Fien ones and work just as well if not better in my opinion.
I generally dip the blades into some Lanolin paste when cutting hardwood which helps them work cooler and prolongs the blade life.Silicone spray or WD 40 works nearly as well in pinch,although it may effect any finish on the bits you are cutting and silicone spray is a no no if you are to apply a painted finish after you cut as it causes fisheye in the surface.

Masters have a cheap set of blades (909 brand)etc in a box for $39.00 which are pretty good for the money.

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Re: FEIN tool vs. rip off oscillating tools?
« Reply #25 on: April 29, 2014, 04:15 PM »
i looked at the festool,but can`t see it being twice as good as my fein,considering it`s twice the price.I find the fein with bosch blades works best for me,the bades are half the price,i tried some of the even cheaper blades,the they are too stiff. Avoid the bosch cordless,i managed to get 10 minutes work out of it before the battery died and would not recharge,even after it had cooled(i`m talking days later),i may as well have saved myself a trip to the shop and just put £100 in the bin
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Re: FEIN tool vs. rip off oscillating tools?
« Reply #26 on: April 29, 2014, 07:42 PM »
Toolnut was selling Fein Supercut- construction model in orange sys 1 for $419.00.  Got mine today...it also comes with the adapter to use the Multimaster accessories which is great because that means I can use the blades and such that I already own for my Multimaster.  I love my Multimaster but at this price I couldn't resist...plus I don't have to buy another sys.  I also use a Milwaukee M12 cordless when I need a couple quick cuts.

Offline Don T

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Re: FEIN tool vs. rip off oscillating tools?
« Reply #27 on: April 29, 2014, 11:07 PM »
Yep I used a friend of mines cheapy and there is a noticeable difference in the speed and quality of the cut.  Then the vibration is a whole other issue with the cheap versions.  Definitely stick with a Fein
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Re: FEIN tool vs. rip off oscillating tools?
« Reply #28 on: May 06, 2014, 06:15 PM »
I have an older Fein, and I like it a lot, but I've been using my Makita more and more.

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The fact that it's cordless makes a huge difference to me.   The Fein Systainer stays in the shop or the van for all but the biggest installs now.

Of course, I'm heavily invested in Makita 18V gear, so it makes sense for me.  Your mileage may vary...
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Offline RKA

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Re: FEIN tool vs. rip off oscillating tools?
« Reply #29 on: May 06, 2014, 07:26 PM »
Toolnut was selling Fein Supercut- construction model in orange sys 1 for $419.00.  Got mine today...it also comes with the adapter to use the Multimaster accessories which is great because that means I can use the blades and such that I already own for my Multimaster.  I love my Multimaster but at this price I couldn't resist...plus I don't have to buy another sys.  I also use a Milwaukee M12 cordless when I need a couple quick cuts.

Does that adapter have a part number by any chance?  I didn't know such a thing existed.  MM accessories are readily available locally, so this would be handy to keep around.
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