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Offline MaymunBaba

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Feedback on Harvey G700 owners
« on: April 30, 2020, 02:51 PM »
I did looked at the Harvey G700 while back and cost combined with 5micron filters stop me going forward with the purchase.
Now that 0.3 micron HEPA filter and special pricing, I am ready to pull the trigger.

Small shop with single user, not looking fancy setups. More into single device dust collection, quiet operations as possible, HEPA filtration and easy bin emptying. My CT36 covers my domino and sanders, track saw,... This will be focus on table saw, planer, jointer,...

Wanted to get feedback from any existing owners on reliability, easy of use and overall value.

Thanks.

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Offline xedos

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Re: Feedback on Harvey G700 owners
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2020, 03:22 PM »
I rate the overall value as poor.  It's a clever package , being able to fit under some benches, but it ends there.

For 300 bucks less, you can buy a Felder RL140 that has twice the suction and 60% more waste capacity.  Their 125 is $700 less and still has 60% more airflow.  Both have a smaller footprint and a solid reputation.  Harvey isn't junk , but they certainly are no Felder in terms of quality or reputation.

I know where the majority of the Felder cost is - in European materials and labor.  The Harvey ?  Not sure I can't justify their price given the build.

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Re: Feedback on Harvey G700 owners
« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2020, 03:36 PM »
Not sure what your decision criteria are, but if I were looking for a high-end dust collector right now, I would be looking at Oneida. We just put a Mini-Gorilla in the model shop, and it is fantastic. Their new SuperCell looks to be an interesting design.

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Re: Feedback on Harvey G700 owners
« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2020, 04:23 PM »
I believe the special pricing the OP mentioned was $2500.  I’m interested in hearing about it too


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Offline ChuckM

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Re: Feedback on Harvey G700 owners
« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2020, 05:06 PM »
Several reviews out there seem to be related to the manufacturer or dealers or parties including, perhaps, this one too:





Offline xedos

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Re: Feedback on Harvey G700 owners
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2020, 05:10 PM »
I believe the special pricing the OP mentioned was $2500.  I’m interested in hearing about it too


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Where did that come from ?   Baba didn't mention a number and the 700 was "introduced" four years ago at $4 grand.  A quick search doesn't show pricing anywhere near that now either.

The SuperCell is clever idea too, and has a place in some shops that are limited on space and don't want to have a vacuum too.   Baba already has a CT - so SuperCell is not a good fit because it's compromised for use with a tablesaw and planer especially.

If someone will link a G700 for 2500 bones , I'll buy one tonite.  At that price it's a decent deal for a smallish collector.


Offline MaymunBaba

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Re: Feedback on Harvey G700 owners
« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2020, 05:34 PM »
I had an email from Bridge City Tool Works and have a discount code. Total comes $2590 + $160 for delivery to TX.
Just clicked buy. [eek]

I am assuming no harm sharing the discount code...
Use Discount Code:956511
At checkout to get your saving!

If you thinking to buy Bridge City Tools, lots of discount codes ... Saving looks like 40%.

Hope this helps!

Offline MaymunBaba

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Re: Feedback on Harvey G700 owners
« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2020, 05:41 PM »
Not sure what your decision criteria are, but if I were looking for a high-end dust collector right now, I would be looking at Oneida. We just put a Mini-Gorilla in the model shop, and it is fantastic. Their new SuperCell looks to be an interesting design.

My second choice was supercell. As much as I like to buy Made in America, my personal experience with Oneida was not positive

Offline dlu

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Re: Feedback on Harvey G700 owners
« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2020, 11:47 PM »
Not sure what your decision criteria are, but if I were looking for a high-end dust collector right now, I would be looking at Oneida. We just put a Mini-Gorilla in the model shop, and it is fantastic. Their new SuperCell looks to be an interesting design.

Noise level and space are high on my list.

Offline MaymunBaba

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Re: Feedback on Harvey G700 owners
« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2020, 04:50 PM »
Just received it this morning. I say pretty fast shipping. Did able to dismount from crate on my own with some ‘engineer’ thinking.
Electrician is due Friday for the circuit...

For now I like:
Fast shipping
Easy install

Will try to collect data and share next week.

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Re: Feedback on Harvey G700 owners
« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2020, 08:12 PM »
I just got an email from Harvey for $2190 use discount code 609961

https://www.harveywoodworking.com/products/gyro-air-g700-dust-processor

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Offline MaymunBaba

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Re: Feedback on Harvey G700 owners
« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2020, 08:37 AM »
Also appears to be the regular price of the unit is dropped to $2990 on their web site.
Not such a big bargain compare to $4k+ prices couple weeks ago.

Offline ChuckM

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Re: Feedback on Harvey G700 owners
« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2020, 08:48 AM »
Price dropping is necessary if they are not selling any of them in this part of the world. Unknown to anyone here, they should've started with an aggressive marketing effort (a price set at cost or below) to develop a base of users/ product ambassadors. I think John of Bridge City Tools got the first unit in the US (2 years ago?). But he is not doing much woodworking and sharing builds on social media. In other words, there is no active product promotion.

Personally, I am not concerned about its technology and reliability as Harvey is an established machine manufacturer, but there aren't enough units to go around for user or service support feedback. May be with this price reduction is what they're trying to build up.
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Offline jgt1942nc

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Re: Feedback on Harvey G700 owners
« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2020, 07:36 PM »
I'm in the market for a DC, in my previous shop I had a HF 2HP with a Thien baffle. It seemed to work great with the limitation of a 2hp motor. I was looking at the CV1800 with the 16" impeller and the Oneida Supercell. During the study, I ran across the G700 and have been impressed by various videos and Stuart Kent at "the NC Furniture School". I live within 2 hours of his school and plan to make an appointment to see his setup. He has two G700 and plans to get a G800 to replace a cyclone DC he has also been using.

At this time I'm very seriously considering the G700 and will make my final decision when I visit Stuart. He has had one G700 now for about 7/8 years and has been very pleased with it and the 2nd unit he now has.

Things I like about the unit are.
  • Low noise level
  • Easy to move if necessary, however at this time I don't plan on moving it around
  • HEPA filter
  • It has a warning buzzer when the bin is near full, if you ignore it when the bin is full the unit shuts off
  • Stuart has been using his one unit for 7/8 years and has NOT had the need to replace the filters and feels that they will last several more years. Because he has a woodworking school, it is common for him to use the DCs 10 hours each day during classes.
  • Very easy to empty the bin and the larger section is only 35 gal. This is great for me, as I get older I don't have the strength for anything larger.

Offline mwolczko

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Re: Feedback on Harvey G700 owners
« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2020, 11:42 PM »
I’m not in the market for one, but coincidentally got an email this a.m. from Bridge City about a flash sale: 5 units available, $1990 with code 516371 until 3am PST tomorrow.

https://www.harveywoodworking.com/collections/gyro-airs/products/gyro-air-g700-dust-processor?mc_cid=73f48d0dfb&mc_eid=c196407b75

Offline jgt1942nc

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Re: Feedback on Harvey G700 owners
« Reply #15 on: June 12, 2020, 01:08 PM »
I did order the G700 through The North Carolina Furniture School on 05/29. Yesterday I received my unit and watched the video Next Level Carpentry-Gyro Air G700 Dust Processor Unboxing and StartUp (). For me, the main obstacle will be getting the unit off of the pallet. I still need to order some flex line, for now I will move the connection to the machine I'm using. I know this will become a royal pain for me but I'm still in the process of setting up my shop after a move. Also because of health issues, I cannot work full days. Sometimes just after a short period, I need to call it quits for the day.

Offline jgt1942nc

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Re: Feedback on Harvey G700 owners
« Reply #16 on: June 12, 2020, 04:20 PM »
Success, removing the pallet was not as difficult as I had imagined and I was able to do it without any help. YEA!!
  • Remove the DC bin and then remove the four lag bolts, you need an 18mm wrench.
    316218-0
  • At the end with the power cord you can find two support legs, turn the red handles to
    raise legs up about 25mm (1 inch). You will need an open-end 18mm wrench.
    316220-1
  • On the end without the power cord remove the nails from the three blocks.
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  • I raised the entire unit by placing a short 4x4 under a corner and inserting a 4x4 block. I did this for all four corners and then using the same method I inserted a short piece of 2x4, thus each corner was raised almost 6". I then drove a prybar under the support brace and pried it up.
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  • There is a support brace on both sides, I repeated the removal of the 2nd brace.
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  • I then removed the blocks from each corner, first the 2x4, after they were removed I then removed the 4x4. I did this as two steps just to ensure I did not encounter issues by removing both blocks at the same time.
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  • On the end without the power cord I placed two 4x4 (about 6" long) under the pallet. This was to reduce the pressure on the bottom section of the pallet. The image shows one block but I did install two.
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  • On each side I inserted a 2x4 under the bottom of the pallet about the midway point between the two blocks (sorry no image).
  • Using a wood chisel I was easily able to cut through the 3/4" plywood. The plywood used is very cheap and weak.
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  • Nw it was time to remove the 4x4 blocks, as I removed one I did insert a short 2x4 slightly thicker than the 2x4 I was using as my level.
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  • I then removed the two short 2x4's.
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  • At this time the top of the pallet was resting on the floor.
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  • The unit was very easy to move off of the pallet. As the end with two support legs (the ones with the red handles) moved across the middle of the pallet they did offer resistance, helping me to control the unit.
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I really don't know how long the process took but I'd guess it was about an hour, mainly because I had to think about each step and resolve some new issue. As you know thinking can be taxing and wear you out. I'm finished for the day and happy!!!  [tongue]
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Re: Feedback on Harvey G700 owners
« Reply #17 on: June 12, 2020, 04:32 PM »
There appears to be an issue with the forum. As you can see the images I included did not make it. Initially, only one image made it. I "modified" the post and added one image. The thumbnail is upside-down but when you mouse over the image it will display correctly.
I was not able to add more pictures, I get an error -  "Your attachment couldn't be saved. This might happen because it took too long to upload or the file is bigger than the server will allow. Please consult your server administrator for more information."

Offline MaymunBaba

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Re: Feedback on Harvey G700 owners
« Reply #18 on: June 12, 2020, 08:28 PM »
I making some dust with it for 2 weeks or so. 4 bins of dust for now...

Had a small problem with bolts & nuts for the wheels fall off! Was pain to screw them back on, check them and tighten them as needed. Also if you are using Nordfab, 6" Machine adapter (3249-0600-100000), G700 inlet is too big for it to work.I will be playing with workarounds, Nordfab adj nipple 6" (3202-0600-100000) fits nicely, may cut that. Will know more if I can get it going this weekend.

Reported what I mentioned to info AT harveywoodworking.com, looks like currently answers are coming from China and communication is a problem. When I have time and collect some more data I may try the phone # and talk to someone in US.

Overall I am happy with it, I do have some concerns on ability to capture all dust on low speed(low noise). I found more dust on my filters than I would expect to find with 4 bin worth of dust.

I will be doing some db test and check the air quality coming from filters. Will also planing to start running full speed to identify if dust showing up on filters related to me running it slow speed.

Also, Jason Bents,  Bent's woodworking have installed it recently in his new shop. There are some videos on youtube and instagram. Probably we will learn more from Jason, his initial setup he was happy with the performance of unit.Not sure any of us have enough run-time to make any conclusion other than so far good.

Offline jgt1942nc

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Re: Feedback on Harvey G700 owners
« Reply #19 on: June 13, 2020, 01:06 PM »
OK here is a PDF of my process of removing the unit off of the pallet.

Offline jgt1942nc

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Re: Feedback on Harvey G700 owners
« Reply #20 on: June 13, 2020, 01:25 PM »
I making some dust with it for 2 weeks or so. 4 bins of dust for now...

Had a small problem with bolts & nuts for the wheels fall off! Was pain to screw them back on, check them and tighten them as needed. Also if you are using Nordfab, 6" Machine adapter (3249-0600-100000), G700 inlet is too big for it to work.I will be playing with workarounds, Nordfab adj nipple 6" (3202-0600-100000) fits nicely, may cut that. Will know more if I can get it going this weekend.

Reported what I mentioned to info AT harveywoodworking.com, looks like currently answers are coming from China and communication is a problem. When I have time and collect some more data I may try the phone # and talk to someone in US.

Overall I am happy with it, I do have some concerns on ability to capture all dust on low speed(low noise). I found more dust on my filters than I would expect to find with 4 bin worth of dust.

I will be doing some db test and check the air quality coming from filters. Will also planing to start running full speed to identify if dust showing up on filters related to me running it slow speed.

Also, Jason Bents,  Bent's woodworking have installed it recently in his new shop. There are some videos on youtube and instagram. Probably we will learn more from Jason, his initial setup he was happy with the performance of unit.Not sure any of us have enough run-time to make any conclusion other than so far good.

Ref the Norfab fitting. I have been successful with PVC and a heat gun. If you have access to a lathe, turn a round cylinder, about 6-10" long, the diameter of the G700 fitting. Taper one end to the dia of the Norfab fitting.
Use the heat gun to heat the Norfab fitting, rotating it to heat all sides the same amount, e.g. constantly rotating the fitting.
After a few minutes, test to see if you have applied enough heat by pushing the small end of the cylinder into the Norfab fitting. If you have applied enough heat then it should easily expand and should expand evenly. Slide the cylinder in enough to resize about 3" or so.
The heat gun I have is a dual heat (low & high), I use the high setting and was purchased from Ace.

I just Googled your fitting and see that it is stainless steel. Thus it will be necessary for you to pick up a 6" PVC coupling or short piece of 6" pipe and resize it for the G700 on one end and the Norfab on the other end.

When resizing PVC to a larger dia it is reasonably easy. If you need to make the PVC smaller it is possible but more of a challange.

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Re: Feedback on Harvey G700 owners
« Reply #21 on: June 14, 2020, 09:29 AM »
With all the assembly and performance issues you've had, sounds like there are better and cheaper options out there.  Thanks for posting.

Offline Banana

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Re: Feedback on Harvey G700 owners
« Reply #22 on: June 14, 2020, 11:13 AM »
Regarding moving machine from pallet to floor,

What am I missing here.. when you raise threaded feet out of the way (while still on pallet) isn't the machine now resting on wheels?
If so wouldn't making an 8ft ramp out of some scrap ply & wood, connected to end of pallet, suffice to roll machine off onto floor?
...and straight through garage door out into the street...

Offline MaymunBaba

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Re: Feedback on Harvey G700 owners
« Reply #23 on: June 16, 2020, 05:07 PM »
Quick update for my limited experience (6 bin of dust):
- Nordfab adj nipple 6" (3202-0600-100000), cut with jigsaw and fitted almost perfectly with rubber seal.
- dB reading low speed(40Hz): 69-70dB high speed (74Hz) 84dB. Need to tighten the back panel as it was rattling initially.
- Temp setup with Nordfab parts, getting consistent suction, my calc probably 700+CFM range
- Filter cleaning easy. Only comment I will make now (with my limited use) is that filter cleaning will need to be done more often. I started to build a habit of every time I empty bin...
- As imagined moving from 4" to 6" made a huge difference on performance of dust collection for me. Not having prior direct experience, all I can say is I am happy with the performance.

My next project I will need to mill 100bf or so, I will do filter/particle test then if time allows and share my data.

Offline MaymunBaba

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Re: Feedback on Harvey G700 owners
« Reply #24 on: June 16, 2020, 05:11 PM »
Regarding moving machine from pallet to floor,

What am I missing here.. when you raise threaded feet out of the way (while still on pallet) isn't the machine now resting on wheels?
If so wouldn't making an 8ft ramp out of some scrap ply & wood, connected to end of pallet, suffice to roll machine off onto floor?
...and straight through garage door out into the street...

There is additional ply wood under, 3"width, 2 rows 6"-8" apart long way. So you have to lift the unit to the ramp or cut the the pieces and roll...

Offline MaymunBaba

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Re: Feedback on Harvey G700 owners
« Reply #25 on: June 16, 2020, 05:15 PM »
I making some dust with it for 2 weeks or so. 4 bins of dust for now...

Had a small problem with bolts & nuts for the wheels fall off! Was pain to screw them back on, check them and tighten them as needed. Also if you are using Nordfab, 6" Machine adapter (3249-0600-100000), G700 inlet is too big for it to work.I will be playing with workarounds, Nordfab adj nipple 6" (3202-0600-100000) fits nicely, may cut that. Will know more if I can get it going this weekend.

Reported what I mentioned to info AT harveywoodworking.com, looks like currently answers are coming from China and communication is a problem. When I have time and collect some more data I may try the phone # and talk to someone in US.

Overall I am happy with it, I do have some concerns on ability to capture all dust on low speed(low noise). I found more dust on my filters than I would expect to find with 4 bin worth of dust.

I will be doing some db test and check the air quality coming from filters. Will also planing to start running full speed to identify if dust showing up on filters related to me running it slow speed.

Also, Jason Bents,  Bent's woodworking have installed it recently in his new shop. There are some videos on youtube and instagram. Probably we will learn more from Jason, his initial setup he was happy with the performance of unit.Not sure any of us have enough run-time to make any conclusion other than so far good.

Ref the Norfab fitting. I have been successful with PVC and a heat gun. If you have access to a lathe, turn a round cylinder, about 6-10" long, the diameter of the G700 fitting. Taper one end to the dia of the Norfab fitting.
Use the heat gun to heat the Norfab fitting, rotating it to heat all sides the same amount, e.g. constantly rotating the fitting.
After a few minutes, test to see if you have applied enough heat by pushing the small end of the cylinder into the Norfab fitting. If you have applied enough heat then it should easily expand and should expand evenly. Slide the cylinder in enough to resize about 3" or so.
The heat gun I have is a dual heat (low & high), I use the high setting and was purchased from Ace.

I just Googled your fitting and see that it is stainless steel. Thus it will be necessary for you to pick up a 6" PVC coupling or short piece of 6" pipe and resize it for the G700 on one end and the Norfab on the other end.

When resizing PVC to a larger dia it is reasonably easy. If you need to make the PVC smaller it is possible but more of a challange.

Good ideas, thank you for sharing. I wanted to keep the metal path all the way to manage the static electricity. When I opened up the unit and look around inside, it is definetly good job/ design on managing static electricity. My opinion was that to carry that forward with metal piping, avoid PVC if I can.

Offline jgt1942nc

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Re: Feedback on Harvey G700 owners
« Reply #26 on: June 22, 2020, 12:35 AM »
MaymunBaba - I agree, staying with metal pipe is the best option but it is also the most expensive. For a few months, I will have to get by with 4" flex that I purchased from Rockler. Air Handling (see https://airhand.com/) has metal pipe as well as flex. I've been told that they have the best price but I'm not sure at this time. In the flex pipe, this is recommended by Harvey > https://airhand.com/product/hobby-shop-flexible-hose-u15/, it comes in either 12 1/5' or 25'. They also have a light gauge metal pipe that is also recommended by Harvey, see https://airhand.com/product-category/woodworking-hobby-shop-light-gauge-solution-for-spiral-pipe-fittings-and-hose/

I'm leaning toward the metal as well but it will be a few months before I do something. I need to finalize the shop setup and I have a few other higher priority projects.

I also need to determine which machines will be connected to the G700 and which will use shopvacs with a Thien Baffle. I've decided to connect my bandsaw to a shopvac, see my post at https://www.lumberjocks.com/topics/309954#reply-5303735 After making the adapter I'm SUPER pleased with the dust collection on the bandsaw.

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Re: Feedback on Harvey G700 owners
« Reply #27 on: July 07, 2020, 01:40 PM »
Regarding moving machine from pallet to floor,

What am I missing here.. when you raise threaded feet out of the way (while still on pallet) isn't the machine now resting on wheels?
If so wouldn't making an 8ft ramp out of some scrap ply & wood, connected to end of pallet, suffice to roll machine off onto floor?
...and straight through garage door out into the street...
I'm not sure if you meant this for me but..... I did raise the threaded feet out of the way. I don't recall if I had already removed the two long blocks that the G700 was bolted to or I did it at this time. Once they were removed and the threaded feet were out of the way the  G700 was setting on the shipping pallet.
I positioned the G700 near one end of the pallet, from the other end I then removed the blocks between the top and bottom of the pallet at that end. Now only the pallet center and other end blocks remained.
I then removed sections of the 3" wide strips that were part of the pallet and on the floor.
I now pushed the G700 toward the end of the pallet where the blocks had been removed. Because the pallet was made from VERY low-grade plywood it easily flexed toward the floor until it rested on the floor.
I continued to push the G700 forward off of the pallet. At one point the G700 did bind on the pallet but it was easy to continue pushing the G700 off.
As the G700 wheels rolled off of the pallet base plywood they did have a 3/4" drop but this did not introduce any problems.
The G700 was now off the pallet.
 
« Last Edit: July 07, 2020, 01:44 PM by jgt1942nc »

Offline mrt076

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Re: Feedback on Harvey G700 owners
« Reply #28 on: July 07, 2020, 05:56 PM »
Thank you for starting this thread.  I too am contemplating the G700 at this price, now.  Can anyone tell me if I don’t consider noise as a factor, am I better off to spend a couple hundred more and go with the Oneida V System 3000, 3hp cyclone?  In currently have a 2hp Grizzly and the performance with an aftermarket Wynn Hepa filter isn’t good enough for me and wondering if 2hp on the G700 won’t be that much of improvement.  I also need enough airflow for a 15” stationary planer, 8” jointer, and 3hp Sawstop PCS.

The other thing I am suspicious of is Harvey won’t address my question when I asked for a fan curve and how they based there CFM measurements.  The responses/communication from Harvey has been only from China and their US office won’t answer the phone or respond to emails...
 
« Last Edit: July 07, 2020, 05:59 PM by mrt076 »

Offline ChuckM

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Re: Feedback on Harvey G700 owners
« Reply #29 on: July 07, 2020, 08:00 PM »
Snip.

The other thing I am suspicious of is Harvey won’t address my question when I asked for a fan curve and how they based there CFM measurements.  The responses/communication from Harvey has been only from China and their US office won’t answer the phone or respond to emails...

On this point alone, I'd go with the Oneida which is based in the same country you're in, and unless contradicted otherwise, it should provide better customer service in case something goes wrong. I'd also go with the 3HP cyclone.

Offline jgt1942nc

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Re: Feedback on Harvey G700 owners
« Reply #30 on: July 08, 2020, 09:19 AM »
mrt076 I just measured the noise level with an app on my Android phone placed 4' from the G700 and on the floor. At the lowest setting (40) I measured around 61 db, at the highest setting (75) I measured 74 db.
So far I've had a reasonable response from either Harvey or the rep I went through.

If you decide to go with another unit I'd suggest the CV1800 with the 16" blower upgrade. The only downside is the .5 micron see https://www.clearvuecyclones.com/cyclone-bundles/66-cv1800-lh-1p-cyclone-bundle-with-filters.html This upgrade increases the CFM from 1,442 to 1,701.

Another option that I'm seriously considering is multiple smaller units like the Dust Right Wall-Mount Dust Collector, 650 CFM (see https://www.rockler.com/dust-right-reg-wall-mount-dust-collector-650-cfm but this means that I need to build a Thien Top Hat for each unit and order a Wynn filter for each. This route will cost almost as much by the time I'd get everything. Another option is to look for super deals on 2HP units.

One of the woodworkers at Lumberjocks modified a chart with the G700 curve, see https://www.lumberjocks.com/topics/309471 Ops I stand corrected, it does NOT have the G700.

So far the G700 is meeting my needs, I'm in the early stage of setting up my shop and it will be a few months before I finish. I'm old and super slow.

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Offline MaymunBaba

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Re: Feedback on Harvey G700 owners
« Reply #31 on: July 08, 2020, 12:51 PM »
I had no luck with communicating with anyone from Harvey woodworking in US via email(info@harveywoodworking.com). Looks like all these emails going to China and communication is problem.

Harveywoodworking will have a hard time promoting and selling this unit as I do not believe they understand how US market operates and user needs are. Real test will be when servicing is needed.

I recall a 1-800 inside unit, did not tried that # as I had no use for it.

I did order extra set of bag in May from Rockler, and I received it after 6 weeks or so as it dropped shipped from California. I can only guess US operations are in the bunker due to virus.

Currently as of me typing this email price dropped to $2190. I also think 15% discount may work "BENTS15" at checkout.
You can also watch the the bentswoodworking video youtube - bents video This will give you an idea as he has full setup including large CNC.
Best to my knowledge he has contacts with US team of Harveywoodworking, and sponsored by them.
In addition, I know Jason did use the forums in past and Festool fan, if he is around he may have more information. You can always DM him instagram.

I am not sponsored or have any relationship with this company.For now, I am happy with the unit (12 bins of dust to-date),minor issues mentioned prior posts. Lower dB levels and ample power (this is my first 6", I may be wrong). I also like the physical shape as it works better for me. Smaller bin, 32-35 gallon, might be issue for some. I can work with it as for me it easier to empty.

I need to take some vacation time, I will try to get the 4" rockler hose setup to see what kind of performance I can get and share non-scientific data. I still need to test/confirm the partial level coming out of the air-filters with Dylos.

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Offline jgt1942nc

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Re: Feedback on Harvey G700 owners
« Reply #32 on: July 08, 2020, 05:57 PM »
Harvey contacts
Hung Mguyen in CA to my knowledge should be answering the info email. Try calling him at (909) 524-9820
Another Harvey contact is Curt Corum (curtlcorum@gmail.com) (475) 355-5345 he is the National Sales Manager
The China guy is Baron Sun (baron@harveymachinery.com), he was always good to answer my emails and supply info.
You can also contact Stuart Kent (ncfurnitureschool@gmail.com) (252) 916-8226

Offline kmarchell

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Re: Feedback on Harvey G700 owners
« Reply #33 on: August 28, 2020, 04:07 PM »
MaymunBaba,
Were you ever able to get a particle level test from Dylos?  I'm really interested in getting a G700 but would like to know how it performs in a small shop especially with higher dust machines (table saw, planer, drum sander...) with regards to dust collection and air quality in the shop. Also see you are in Houston, I'm in Spring (north Houston area) but will hopefully be relocating to Boerne (west of San Antonio) in the next year or so. Thanks for your help!

Offline MaymunBaba

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Re: Feedback on Harvey G700 owners
« Reply #34 on: August 30, 2020, 05:07 PM »
Sorry for the late update, Houston weather got to me, finally got MrCool unit, and now happy person in my garage.

For the people DM, and asking me, yes I am extremely happy with the unit.

Dylos controlled test result were better than I expected, HEPA filter (0.3micron) working as far as I can tell. I used the Dylos 1100-pro, lay it 8-10 inches away from the filters on the side of the unit. Readings were 330/16, started the unit, full power, readings 42/2!
I did my best to control the environment, garage was unoccupied at least 2+ hrs.

I uploaded a video, i can never inlcude these link correctly here, let me try...


Any questions let me know. @kmarchell yes I am also in Spring area! May be we bump each other in Rockler-SPring/Woodcraft North!. I have used with SawStop JSS Tabelsaw, DW735 planer, Rikon 10-326 band saw, and Jet JBOS sander. I do not have drum sander.
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Offline kmarchell

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Re: Feedback on Harvey G700 owners
« Reply #35 on: September 04, 2020, 11:10 AM »
MaymunBaba,

Thanks for the Dylos test.  If you get a chance some time it would be great to see the Dylos data while you are actively using your tablesaw and / or planer to see how the G700 is doing while a lot of dust generation is occurring.

Great that you are also in Spring - I do spend a lot of time and $ in both of those stores and will miss having them so close when I move to Boerne (Woodcraft store ~45 min away in San Antonio and closest Rockler store in Austin).  Guess my wife will be happy though  [smile].

Thanks again for all the info you have been posting on the G700.
« Last Edit: September 04, 2020, 11:14 AM by kmarchell »

Offline mkasdin

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Re: Feedback on Harvey G700 owners
« Reply #36 on: September 21, 2020, 02:18 AM »
Thank you for starting this thread.  I too am contemplating the G700 at this price, now.  Can anyone tell me if I don’t consider noise as a factor, am I better off to spend a couple hundred more and go with the Oneida V System 3000, 3hp cyclone?  In currently have a 2hp Grizzly and the performance with an aftermarket Wynn Hepa filter isn’t good enough for me and wondering if 2hp on the G700 won’t be that much of improvement.  I also need enough airflow for a 15” stationary planer, 8” jointer, and 3hp Sawstop PCS.

The other thing I am suspicious of is Harvey won’t address my question when I asked for a fan curve and how they based there CFM measurements.  The responses/communication from Harvey has been only from China and their US office won’t answer the phone or respond to emails...
they have an office in Los Angeles, I think they are in Montclair, California off the 210 fwy. I think that is how a lot of Chinese companies handle warranty questions and the like, they ignore owners when they have a problem or just never pickup the phone ☎️. For the few hundred dollars go with an American Company... Oneida is suppose to be first class. You can call them and they will help design your DC. I’m on a budget, I just bought a 2 pony power Chinese Freight dust collector. I’m landing on upgrading for $28 to the 2 micron dust bag. My previous dust collector was working outside and watching the sawdust blow into the neighbors kitchen window... 😆

Offline kono0014

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Re: Feedback on Harvey G700 owners
« Reply #37 on: November 18, 2020, 04:49 PM »
With some deals surely coming up I am considering the G700.  It is $2290 with a coupon right now but I am sure it will get a little better.  I saw it for $2190 in October.  Any other new owners since this thread started?  My main concern is the longevity of the design and support/parts availability.  Oneida is a well established company that will likely support their machines for many years after you buy them but I am trying to find something that is quieter as I have a basement shop.  The V-System is intriguing at 74 dBA but the G700 is even quieter.

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Re: Feedback on Harvey G700 owners
« Reply #38 on: November 18, 2020, 11:10 PM »
I have seen it as low as maybe 1950.  You might give them a call and see if they will match that earlier low price from the summer.  They certainly have become very promotional in their marketing, so I bet they might be willing to cut a deal if you call them. 

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Re: Feedback on Harvey G700 owners
« Reply #39 on: November 18, 2020, 11:23 PM »
Any ideas on why retailers persist in listing these at such high prices? Woodcraft still shows it at over $4k.

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Offline skcncx

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Re: Feedback on Harvey G700 owners
« Reply #40 on: December 08, 2020, 10:14 AM »
New here, but highly interested in the G700 so I've followed the thread.  I ended up buying one, has not yet arrived (as of 12/8/2020).  Sometimes you'll never know until you buy and try.

* For those that wanted to see the fan curve, they have posted at https://www.harveywoodworking.com/products/gyro-air-g700-dust-processor.  Scroll down to the specs section.  What I don't understand is they state max air flow at 1,110 CFM, but their fan curve only goes up to 750 CFM.

* I had the Oneida V2000.  2HP V2000 vs 2HP G700, I'll be curious to see if I can perceive a difference in performance, too bad I won't have both at the same time.  I anticipate them being very similar, regardless of the advertised specs. 

Since these machines are really only capable of one machine at a time, I like the G700 for it's mobility and form factor.  That was a big reason for the switch, I never did fully duct my V2000 and it's not mobile in any way.  Cycling on and off frequently isn't as much of a concern for the G700 since it ramps the motor up slowly with VFD, though, that could be an annoying wait for some.  Same with inlet port location, what's a preference for some, is a disadvantage for a different setup. Time will tell once I actually have it and use it, or don't use it for that matter.

* I don't understand the crazy price fluctuations for the G700 the last few weeks but I did have success calling in and asking if they would honor a previous sale price.  The challenge, is getting them to call or email you back.  I did get Oneida on the phone more promptly, but I can't say I've had much help from them other than "which one do you want to buy..."  I'm sure if I was spending a lot more, they would be more apt to really dig in and help.  I was considering the Supercell, their hybrid between dust collector and shop vac.

* The V2000 did meet my expectations on noise level, though actual db levels in my basement shop were higher than stated even with the  silencer accessory you install right after the plenum and before the filter.  I was around 76-78db with silencer about 15ft away.  Unfinished, 8ft basement ceilings, concrete walls.  While higher db levels than advertised the pitch and noise was never annoying (by itself).  Obviously, the tool you are running may be what's too loud.  I could leave it on (as you aren't supposed to cycle these things on and off frequently) while I paused work and them came back to my table saw.  I fully expect the G700 to be a bit louder than advertised at full speed.  I have no dissolution that their advertised numbers weren't done in some perfect environment to eek out the best ratings.



Offline BobbyDazzler

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Re: Feedback on Harvey G700 owners
« Reply #41 on: December 08, 2020, 07:36 PM »
I’m looking at one of these as a replacement to my current Grizzly 3HP DC.  (Very loud and hope the air quality can be improved.)

I’m holding out for another sales discount to push this over the line. I’ve registered with Harvey website so hopefully they send a discount code soonish...

Offline dwillis

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Re: Feedback on Harvey G700 owners
« Reply #42 on: December 08, 2020, 09:01 PM »
I made the decision to buy a G700 and it arrived this Thursday (12/10/2020), intact. I'm really looking forward to having this system as the dust collection centerpiece in my new workshop. Up to now I've been using a combination of a shop vacuum and several Festool vacuums. This has gotten me by while I'm setting up shop, but is less than ideal when the shop is up and running. I'll still use Festool dust collectors for sawing and sanding because they have low volumes of sawdust, but a table saw, joiner, and planer need more capacity.

I watched Next Level Carpentry for his method of unpacking and removing from the shipping pallet. I made a few modifications/simplifications to his method. Basically put two 2x6 boards on the scaffolding with one eye bolt in the center of each bolt. Then lifted each end with a hand winch, the first end was secured with a piece of 1/8 inch aircraft cable with a loop on each end. My rigging was definitely lighter weight than Next Level Carpentry, but I didn't encounter any problems.
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Offline skcncx

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Re: Feedback on Harvey G700 owners
« Reply #43 on: December 10, 2020, 03:15 PM »

For those wondering about the fan curve listed for the G700 at https://www.harveywoodworking.com/products/gyro-air-g700-dust-processor, it's based on 4" duct, which explains why it only reads to 750 CFM.  That was relayed directly to me by Harvey Tech Support.  The "max" specs are just based on fan speed at the blower, no duct work.  Tech support mentioned they have been getting questions on that.  As with any specs, providing context goes a long way to help us understand what we are reading.

From my understanding to get more performance than that out of 4" duct, your HP requirements increase exponentially.  Spec wise, that appears to be on par with advertised specs from comparable Oneida cyclones.

I've had my G700 for 1 day, used it on my router table, table saw and just some general dust pick up to see it work.  I have perceived a noticeable improvement over my 2HP Oneida V2000.  It picks up the dust from further way at the hose end than my V2000 by an inch or so.  Also seems to pull harder when I place my hand over the 4" hose end.  That was expected since their static pressure specs are higher than the Oneida V2000.  This is all subjective I realize, and they certainly are generally equivalent.

I've always found it interesting when using an anemometer flush or 1" from hose end.  Put it flush you'll read significantly higher air flow than if you hold it out just by 1".  Could be as much as 50-70% more ft/minute.  Directing dust or having your hose end as close to source is critical.

G700 initial thoughts
* Unloading from pallet is doable for 1 person, and once it's off, it's ready to plug in and go.  The handle install is really optional.

* Mobile yes, but sure wish they made all the casters 360 swivel.  That would make it easier to push in any direction.

* because everything goes thought the fan blade, smallish cut offs make a large ding, doesn't sound good.
   * compared to the Oneida cyclones, large chunks never make it to the fan blade, they just swirl around awhile until they fall... sometimes never until you turn off the motor.

* Noise level quite good.  Keep in mind, my db reader was 84db, no duct work, 10ft away in a 2. car garage size shop.  A huge part of that is from the air rushing in at the 6" inlet.  Noticeably quieter once you add about 15 ft of duct connected to my table saw, without the saw running.  I believe if I eliminated air rushing noise and read db level with inlet ducted to the outside I would be right on the advertised numbers.

* running on medium speed is certainly workable as well, though, the only reason I would do that is if I want a little noise reduction and chip collection still performs well.

Offline BobbyDazzler

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Re: Feedback on Harvey G700 owners
« Reply #44 on: December 14, 2020, 12:37 PM »
A question for Gyro Air G700 owners;

I do a lot of hand planing and chisel work in my shop. Do you think the G700 would have issues if I used it to floor sweep this detritus? I understand that the shavings will pass through the impeller, not like a typical vertical cyclone dust collector which would fall to the bin.

Many thanks.

Offline skcncx

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Re: Feedback on Harvey G700 owners
« Reply #45 on: December 14, 2020, 04:27 PM »

Nothing to stop you, but a few things to keep in mind.

* Suction with 4" hose is pretty good, so yes it will work well.
    * I have picked up the Rockler Dust Right Bench Nozzle to pick up loose sawdust and shavings on the floor, but not for general pickup, playing it safe to only pickup wood dust, plastic stuff and wood shavings
    * Even with the supplied 6" to two 4" ports and one of the 4" ports has a rubber reducer to 2.5" (approx) that get's decent suction at shorter lengths, though I would stay with a 4" host to pick up planer and chisel shavings.

* The 6" inlet has a grid to ensure nothing too large gets to the fan
    * A lot of large, thin shavings if wrapped around that filter/grid could cause a clog more easily
    * I didn't think about this when I replaced my V2000 cyclone with my G700, I do believe that's a plus for cyclone separators, less stuff contacts the fan blade.  I even believe my V2000 supposedly had anti spark properties
    * If it became an issue, you could remove part of the grid, or all of it, though I would be reluctant to do so.

* Try not to pick up metal objects that might cause a spark.
    * I asked Harvey Support about using as general vacuum and while it wasn't a direct "no, don't do it" you have to be cautious. There are some cases where picking up metal stuff is ok, they actually advertise this for some metal scenarios.  "It depends" was their general response and it depends on the type of metal/alloy you are sweeping up.  They did say it's definitely a no go if you want to pick up dissimilar metals.  All these specifics on what it can and cannot safely pick up is beyond my full understanding, that's for sure.



Offline jwar

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Re: Feedback on Harvey G700 owners
« Reply #46 on: December 16, 2020, 01:38 AM »
Thank you for starting this thread.  I too am contemplating the G700 at this price, now.  Can anyone tell me if I don’t consider noise as a factor, am I better off to spend a couple hundred more and go with the Oneida V System 3000, 3hp cyclone?  In currently have a 2hp Grizzly and the performance with an aftermarket Wynn Hepa filter isn’t good enough for me and wondering if 2hp on the G700 won’t be that much of improvement.  I also need enough airflow for a 15” stationary planer, 8” jointer, and 3hp Sawstop PCS.

The other thing I am suspicious of is Harvey won’t address my question when I asked for a fan curve and how they based there CFM measurements.  The responses/communication from Harvey has been only from China and their US office won’t answer the phone or respond to emails...


I am looking at the Harvey and or the Oneida V3000, For my newer larger woodworking tools , Laguna BX18 bandsaw Dual 4 in dust port, Sawstop 3hp PCS with overhead 2.5 dust collection and 4 in lower with future router table insert at 4 in. 15in Powermatic planer HHC 4in port, Powermatic 8 in parallelogram jointer with 4in, Powermatic DP with woodpeckers table 2.5 in port, Shopfox w1702 shaper with 4in port, Incra LS wonder router table with 4in and 2.5 in  top port, Older Craftsman 12in disk and 6x 48 belt sander I have the Festool CT48 with dust cyclone systainer for all the small tools , ie tracksaw, kreg foreman , hand sanders, scroll saw, jigsaw etc. I am curious if the Harvey unit can handle more than one  large woodworking tool in use at one time as in the future if the boss aka the wife agrees to a CNC. I sold my 2 stage and do not have dust collection as of yet so I am off line until I buy a unit being on the fence suxs over this important and healthwise decision. Any input is welcome for both the Harvey and or the Oneida V3000 3hp 220vac 1P

 As the quoted post included with my Post I have as of yet to get a response from Harvey regarding my questions California Representative. I have seen several videos on line regarding the Harvey G700,  but I am sceptical as if those are donated to the user for marketing purposes or actual consumers whom spent their own cold hard cash.  I have also spoken to Oneida and have had Mark with Oneida call me back several times asking if I was ready to purchase or if I had any questions about any of the products listed on their webpage. Plus Oneida will do a layout for me and provide the sheet metal for additional cost.  So I am stuck on the fence and need a push from those that have Harvey or Oneida units to enlighten me please. BTW I am a disabled Veteran missing part of my right lung so dust collection is extremely important to me. Thanks all for your time in reading my lengthy post.     

BTW link to Harvey listing current price at 2290.00  https://www.harveywoodworking.com/products/gyro-air-g700-dust-processor
 link to Oneida current price of 2499.00    https://www.oneida-air.com/dust-collectors/personal-shops/v-system/v-system-3000-hepa-cyclone-dust-collector-v2019
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Offline ChuckM

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Re: Feedback on Harvey G700 owners
« Reply #47 on: December 16, 2020, 10:40 AM »
Nothing against imported machinery (I have had my own share of it), but for your health requirements as well as desire for responsive customer service, I'd recommend going with a North American merchant. The price difference of 10% or so is immaterial.
« Last Edit: December 16, 2020, 10:43 AM by ChuckM »

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Re: Feedback on Harvey G700 owners
« Reply #48 on: December 16, 2020, 10:57 AM »
@jwar - my nephew purchased the G700 to work with his Minimax slider and combo machine.  He's very happy with the G700.  He did NOT plumb into a central system, only using it with a 6" hose from the tool ports to the machine.

Offline memilanuk

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Re: Feedback on Harvey G700 owners
« Reply #49 on: December 16, 2020, 02:04 PM »
Does the G700 come stock with 0.3 micron filters?

Looking at their page, it shows "commonly purchased together" items being extra bags, and 0.3 micron filters. I get ordering extra bags (though I've read that they can be reused for quite a while)... but I guess I'm not clear on whether the unit comes with 0.3 micron filters, or if they have to be added separately?

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Offline skcncx

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Re: Feedback on Harvey G700 owners
« Reply #50 on: December 16, 2020, 02:54 PM »
Does the G700 come stock with 0.3 micron filters?

Looking at their page, it shows "commonly purchased together" items being extra bags, and 0.3 micron filters. I get ordering extra bags (though I've read that they can be reused for quite a while)... but I guess I'm not clear on whether the unit comes with 0.3 micron filters, or if they have to be added separately?

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It DOES come with the Merv 17 (.3 micron) filters, 2 of them. Mine also came with an extra set of bags.  Though I ordered an additional set on top of that.  I'll reused until they fall part and then just have my extras as backups.

It's not listed on their site (wish it was) but you can purchase extra remotes.  I think I paid $20'ish for an extra remote, got 3 of them.  That's my simple solution to automatically turn on the unit at each tool, each tool get's a remote attached to it by the tool's  power button.

They only list the remote with receiver for $199 and that's for G700 who purchase their units a couple years ago when it didn't come with the remote option.


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Offline skcncx

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Re: Feedback on Harvey G700 owners
« Reply #51 on: December 16, 2020, 03:31 PM »
@jwar Having had both a V2000 (just 1 HP less than the V3000) and now the G700 I think they are both great units and very similar in performance.  I think either could handle 2 machines at once though you are at the limits. It really depends on the needs of the two machines.  I wouldn't recommend it. 

If you are ultra concerned about dust, the stuff you don't see of which may not be picking up with these units, some in the dust collection community wouldn't consider either of these 2 units as adequate. I'm thinking of Bill Pentz and his articles and input on the topic.  Clearvue cyclone has their CV1800LH with 5PH, optional 15" fan for only $2,200.

Between Oneida V2000/3000 and the G700 the form factor, inlet location and mobility are a huge factor in my opinion why you would pick one over the other... as well as the obvious support availability.  The Oneida cyclones V systems are not mobile in anyway.  The G700 is, though it's still sizeable to lug around easily (IMO).  The ClearView cyclones take up considerable amount of space and height if that's an issue.

My only association with both Harvey for G700 and Oneida for my V2000 is that I spent my own money on them.  I've had success and frustration at getting good and quick responses from either company.  I personally don't think Oneida (based on my own experience) is so much better, though they are easier to get a hold of but that's where my experience ends, the input/feedback/support I received was close to not getting a hold of them at all.


Offline jwar

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Re: Feedback on Harvey G700 owners
« Reply #52 on: December 23, 2020, 04:21 AM »
  Thank you to all that have replied. I was just informed that my Powermatic Jointer and Planer are in the store awaiting local delivery. I am  going to delay delivered until the new year as I still don't have dust collection as I sold my two stage  unit and just don't want to fire those new machines up without dust protection. I do like the portability of the Harvey unit as my shop shares it's space with my multispecies fishing boat and that boat cost more than all these tools combined. One thing I can see as a drawback is the dust port location and possible warranty support or support in the future if thing breaks down. I have been to Bill Pentz site linked here http://billpentz.com/woodworking/cyclone/ and this site is loaded with so much data.

   I guess my next quest once I decide is to get duct work an I was leaning towards Nordfab unless there is an equal or greater product out there. 

Offline LonelyRaven

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Re: Feedback on Harvey G700 owners
« Reply #53 on: February 22, 2021, 12:56 PM »
I'm looking to purchase the G700 today if possible. Anyone have any current discount codes? Even free shipping would help!

Thanks in advance!