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Offline Bertotti

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Dust collection?
« on: April 25, 2021, 08:44 AM »
I have a ct26 but it is not nearly big enough to use with a 15" planer. I also have a 1hp Delta 50-723 with 750 cfm, small draws well with one machine at a time, and is excellent for filtering out big chunks and letting the finest particles back into the room. I keep the connections short and as straight as possible and just move it from machine to machine. Do any of you vent your, dust collectors, outside? I'm in the country and the stuff gets dumped outside anyway and helps break down the clay-filled soil. So my thought process is to just take the bag off and vent it outside but that then leaves me with other issues since I move it from one machine to the next machine I might have to make it a permanent wall mount and move machines to it, not a huge issue but it will necessitate a change in my environment. Any thoughts? I had considered the bigger dust collectors but would rather make this work and save for a drill press.
« Last Edit: April 25, 2021, 08:48 AM by Bertotti »
I want to populate SD with trees because I miss the forests of the river bottoms.

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Offline Bertotti

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Re: Dust collection?
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2021, 08:49 AM »
Sadly, I am thinking I will probably have to build a bigger collector.
I want to populate SD with trees because I miss the forests of the river bottoms.

Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: Dust collection?
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2021, 10:20 AM »
Just upgrade the bag filter to the canister filter and stay contained and mobile.

Offline tsmi243

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Re: Dust collection?
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2021, 10:37 AM »
If you can make it work with an exterior exhaust, I would do it.  Even Bill Pentz recommends it that way.

You just have to decide what to prioritize.  For me, if I could do exterior venting, that would be worth a LOT.  My next shop, I'll make it a priority. 

I don't know how your DC would handle a long enough flex pipe to reach each machine, but a lot of guys do it that way and leave the DC in the corner.  It may not be ideal, but taking the filter out of the equation might make up for the lost performance.  So my vote is to just spin out the chunks in the cyclone, and let the dust go.  No filter. 


Offline Bertotti

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Re: Dust collection?
« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2021, 10:59 AM »
Thanks, it is certainly free to try it vented, just some foam board and run it through a window to see how it goes. I have looked at the canister filters but they cost almost as much as the unit or at least what I paid for it. I will try it vented and if not completely satisfied maybe sell it and buy a bigger one.
I want to populate SD with trees because I miss the forests of the river bottoms.

Offline rvieceli

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Re: Dust collection?
« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2021, 11:12 AM »
Try Wynn Environmental filters

https://wynnenv.com/

They make reasonably priced filters that work for these bag type dust collectors. Probably somewhere in the 250-300 range all in.

you are probably looking at some where in the 750 range for new with a cannister or 1500 for a cyclone with a cannister.

Ron

Offline ChuckS

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Re: Dust collection?
« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2021, 11:14 AM »
For planers, table saws, etc., a dust collector is the way to go.

In a typical planing session using my 13"  Ridgid planer, I fill up a garden waste bag, sometimes more than one. That will be too many bags and not economical to use for a CT.

Offline Bertotti

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Re: Dust collection?
« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2021, 09:22 PM »
I got the Wynn canister filter for 250. I will probably order an Oneida cyclone. My Delta has a 4inch inlet so I am tossed up if I should go with the 4" cyclone or step up to the 5" cyclone. Too big and it won't have enough power to draw it through fast enough to work properly, or so my mind tells me. I emailed Oneida.
I want to populate SD with trees because I miss the forests of the river bottoms.

Offline twistsol

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Re: Dust collection?
« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2021, 10:01 PM »
I see you are in South Dakota. The problem with venting outside is that in the winter you are pushing 750 CFM of heated air outdoors. That gets expensive in a hurry. Go with a canister filter on the dust collector.

Offline Bertotti

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Re: Dust collection?
« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2021, 10:53 PM »
I see you are in South Dakota. The problem with venting outside is that in the winter you are pushing 750 CFM of heated air outdoors. That gets expensive in a hurry. Go with a canister filter on the dust collector.

Yep already ordered. I realized that earlier today when it started to snow like mad. In the summer it would be fine but in the winter with -F temps For weeks or even months on end, not so good.
I want to populate SD with trees because I miss the forests of the river bottoms.

Offline Birdhunter

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Re: Dust collection?
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2021, 06:20 AM »
I used to have the bag type collectors AND lots of respiratory issues. I switched to two big Oneida 2hp collectors with gates at each machine. Solved the dust issues. They use pleated paper filters. I vacuum them when I empty the collector barrels. The vacuum is such that Home Depot level ducting will collapse. Oneida sells suitable ducting. The ceiling of my shop looks like a submarine with ducting running everywhere.
Birdhunter

Offline RobS888

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Re: Dust collection?
« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2021, 02:52 PM »
For planers, table saws, etc., a dust collector is the way to go.

In a typical planing session using my 13"  Ridgid planer, I fill up a garden waste bag, sometimes more than one. That will be too many bags and not economical to use for a CT.

Chuck, do you throw that out or burn?

Offline ChuckS

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Re: Dust collection?
« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2021, 02:59 PM »
Mostly placed in the Green cart (Compost) that's collected weekly, with a small amount given to a friend who uses cooking oil a lot. I also discard scrap wood in the Green cart now and then.

8 years ago before we had the Food & Yard Waste program in place, they went to the landfill.
« Last Edit: April 26, 2021, 03:03 PM by ChuckM »

Offline CeeJay

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Re: Dust collection?
« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2021, 04:32 PM »
Mine goes in the green bin - just emptied the DC this weekend. It’s surprising how quickly it fills up when using the jointer and planer.


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