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Offline Cheese

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Re: Cubitron with Festool sanders
« Reply #60 on: September 08, 2021, 09:54 PM »
Which pad is the correct one to use for mesh paper?

The 492271 StickFix Interface Pad or something else.

Festool offers a series of protection pads. They're all about 1/8" thick.

203344 = 125 series
203343 = 150 series
203346 = RTS series
203347 = DTS series

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Offline Lincoln

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Re: Cubitron with Festool sanders
« Reply #61 on: September 08, 2021, 11:06 PM »
Which pad is the correct one to use for mesh paper?

The 492271 StickFix Interface Pad or something else.

No, that's for following curves/round overs etc. You want a 'pad saver', which protects the hook and loop from damage caused by the mesh. They're a disposable item, available from Mirka.

Offline Bob D.

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Re: Cubitron with Festool sanders
« Reply #62 on: September 09, 2021, 05:44 AM »
Thanks Cheese and Lincoln. Sounds like a trip to Woodcraft is in order.

Only bad part is I'll probably come home with more than just the pad.  [big grin]

Haven't been to Woodcraft in over a year with the pandemic. Might be
time to take a trip over the bridge into Delaware. It's 35 miles one way
and a $5 bridge toll so I have to make it worth my while. I don't think
there is a Woodcraft in all of NJ.

Update: Glad I called before I headed over there as they have none in stock
so I order off the web. Should be here by Saturday. They come two to a pack
for $13.00
« Last Edit: September 09, 2021, 09:36 PM by Bob D. »
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Offline afish

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Re: Cubitron with Festool sanders
« Reply #63 on: September 09, 2021, 08:51 AM »
Which pad is the correct one to use for mesh paper?

The 492271 StickFix Interface Pad or something else.

Not sure about others but the last time I got some Diablo mesh it came with an interface pad in the package.  I agree with Alex however I was not impressed with the Diablo mesh I dont remember exactly what I was sanding but I do remember once it hit a corner or edge it disintegrates fast

I use and love the film backed Cubitron paper. It is the only sandpaper I buy now.  I will say on some sanders such as ETS 125 Req I feel like the dust collection does suffer a bit with the film backed disks.  No fancy scientific tests were done to come to that conclusion just my personal and objective observation.  Im going to give the cube mesh a try and really, really hope its more durable than the Diablo.  If so it could be the perfect disc if it performs like in the KM video. 

Offline Cheese

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Re: Cubitron with Festool sanders
« Reply #64 on: September 09, 2021, 10:20 AM »
I use and love the film backed Cubitron paper. It is the only sandpaper I buy now.  I will say on some sanders such as ETS 125 Req I feel like the dust collection does suffer a bit with the film backed disks.  No fancy scientific tests were done to come to that conclusion just my personal and objective observation. 

Here's a recent example on teak outdoor furniture. The results are pretty obvious. Once I get back to this teak sanding project, I'll try attaching the MIDI to the ETSC and look at those results. 

1. An ETSC 125 with only the vacuum bag
2. An ETS EC 125/150 with a MIDI 1 attached.










« Last Edit: September 09, 2021, 10:22 AM by Cheese »

Offline afish

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Re: Cubitron with Festool sanders
« Reply #65 on: September 09, 2021, 10:27 AM »
are you saying you think the dust collection with the 3m cube is just as good as with granat?

Offline Cheese

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Re: Cubitron with Festool sanders
« Reply #66 on: September 09, 2021, 10:50 AM »
are you saying you think the dust collection with the 3m cube is just as good as with granat?

For the ETSC 125 if you're using the dust bag and relying on the internal vac fan on the sander, the larger diameter Granat holes do a lot better job.

For the ETS EC while using Cubitron I also cranked up the amount of suction on the MIDI and that now does as well as the Granat.

It will be interesting to attach the MIDI to the ETSC 125 and see if that helps dust extraction. I think it will I just don't know how much. I think you're also somewhat limited because of the number of holes in the 5" pad versus the 6" pad.

The 5" has 9 large holes and that's it.
The 6" has 16 large holes, 16 medium holes and 38 small holes.

Offline jussi

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Re: Cubitron with Festool sanders
« Reply #67 on: September 09, 2021, 11:05 AM »
Thanks for the review cheese. I have an ets ec 150 and Etsy 125.  I only had the 5” Cubitron but recently ordered the 6”.  I have a ct 26 so I’m curious to see how well the dc will perform with larger diameter discs and larger sander.  The 5” was ok but not great for me.
« Last Edit: September 09, 2021, 11:44 AM by jussi »

Offline guybo

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Re: Cubitron with Festool sanders
« Reply #68 on: September 09, 2021, 09:23 PM »
good review

Offline xedos

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Re: Cubitron with Festool sanders
« Reply #69 on: September 25, 2021, 09:47 PM »
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Not sure about others but the last time I got some Diablo mesh it came with an interface pad in the package.  I agree with Alex however I was not impressed with the Diablo mesh I dont remember exactly what I was sanding but I do remember once it hit a corner or edge it disintegrates fast

Diablo’s interface pad doesn’t work (actually align) with Festool’s hole patterns.  You’ll need to use Festool’s interface pads with whatever brand mesh abrasive you choose if you want the dust collection to function properly.

Mesh disintegrates when you hit a sharp or rough edge, or metal nail, screw, ect.  Matters not whether the disc is from Diablo, Mirka , or Festool.  It’s one of the drawbacks of the type.

Is it the best?   Prob. not, but at roughly 35cents a disc on sale it’s a top contender for value.

Offline afish

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Re: Cubitron with Festool sanders
« Reply #70 on: September 30, 2021, 08:50 AM »
So my sample 3m cubitron mesh pack finally arrived and I tested it out yesterday sanding some bare wood (marine ply) and figured I would report my findings.  I found the 3m mesh to be much much more durable than the Diablo mesh I tried before.  However, it still doesnt last nearly as long as the regular 3m cubitron film backed discs.  I will say I didnt expect them too either, those film backed discs are some really durable discs and last a long time. 

But and its a pretty big but the 3m cube mesh really shines in dust collection over the film discs.  I used them on a ets 125 req not the ec which has more holes and might be better and have a better chance at the holes matching up.  The req holes dont match up very well with the film backed cubitron so DC will suffer even with a ct36 attached compared to using granat.

Long story short if you want better DC control =mesh.  If durability and longevity are most important than the 3m cubitron film discs is the winner.

I plan on getting an ets 125 ec soon so my req can stay permanently in the edge guide.  I use my req and edge guide a lot for smoothing up edges when parts come off the cnc so the film discs are the clear winner in that scenario since I am sanding 100% edges and I will use the EC for larger flatter surfaces. My biggest issue is Im not a fan of having the dust hose attached with the edge guide since it creates some extra wrist strain and using the bag is so much lighter, faster and more maneuverable with the edge guide so I think my best bet is making a punch to put the festool hole pattern in the cubitron to give the edge guide/bag combo the best dust collection while keeping the lighter more maneuverable bag on.

I will be sticking with the film discs which I love its by far the best performing, longest lasting, clog resistant sandpaper I have ever used.