Author Topic: Coming to grips with my vises... (Read 27984 times)

Richard/RMW · « **Reply #90 on:** September 01, 2023, 05:38 AM »

Quote from: Cheese on August 31, 2023, 10:06 PM

Quote from: jeffinsgf on August 31, 2023, 04:33 PM
I've been watching you guys brag about Versa-Vises for years. Every time I convince myself that it's okay to spend $200 on a used vise (when I already have 7 or , all I can find are the short jawed versions. I want one of the duckbill ones. Someday when my resistance is weak one will pop up. You would think that within 40 miles of where they were made, it wouldn't be that hard to come up with one.

Hey Richard...is Jeff referring to us? Braggarts...really?

Ya, guilty as charged Jeff. And I know we made a difference because you're now scouring eBay endlessly for a Will-Burt vise.

FWIW...the 1901 model has the manufacturer as Will Burt while later versions use Will-Burt, a small difference but it could be important in determining the manufacturing date.

Jeff, I'd have thought you'd have your pick of Will-Burts considering you're firmly within the manufacturing zone.

Another interesting note to confirm that the Will-Burt collectors on the FOG are not the only kooks in the world, I ran across someone producing vinyl manufacturing labels for the Will-Burt vises on eBay and they'd already sold almost 90 of the items. That's a lot of vinyl labels sold considering every Will-Burt already comes with a metal manufacturing label riveted to the body.

This could become a movement.

Perhaps he's waiting for my wife's future estate-sale-of-a-tool-collector....

RMW

Cheese · « **Reply #91 on:** September 11, 2023, 12:20 PM »

Just ran across this new vise from Fein, while not inexpensive it could be incredibly handy in a multitude of situations. Fein claims a 1750 lbf capability.

https://toolstoday.com/fein-90701004020-versamag-vise-set.html

https://youtu.be/o5Arj13Nw_8?t=1

rst · « **Reply #92 on:** September 11, 2023, 01:37 PM »

Toolnut has it on preorder, same price.

gunnyr · « **Reply #93 on:** September 11, 2023, 03:14 PM »

Quote from: Richard/RMW on August 30, 2023, 10:20 AM

There an old Will Burt on eBay now:

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Needs some TLC but it's worth the effort. This is a very early one, looks a little older than mine.

RMW

I really needed to see this.....

I didn't know I needed one until a few minutes ago......

Richard/RMW · « **Reply #94 on:** September 18, 2023, 07:27 PM »

@jeffinsgf here's your chance...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/115917651823?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=wrbNbjl2QM6&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=lLON-PEHQ8S&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

RMW

jeffinsgf · « **Reply #95 on:** September 18, 2023, 09:10 PM »

I'm too slow. It sold about 2 minutes after you posted...which was an hour before I saw your post.

Cheese · « **Reply #96 on:** September 19, 2023, 03:02 AM »

Quote from: jeffinsgf on September 18, 2023, 09:10 PM

I'm too slow. It sold about 2 minutes after you posted...which was an hour before I saw your post.

dndndndndndn...Admit it Jeff, you're slowly but surely becoming one of us...dndndndndndndndndndndndn

Here are a couple of photos to help complete the transformation...dndndndndndndndndn

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luvmytoolz · « **Reply #97 on:** September 19, 2023, 03:42 AM »

There's another one up:

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/256223028678

jeffinsgf · « **Reply #98 on:** September 19, 2023, 06:41 AM »

Quote from: Cheese on September 19, 2023, 03:02 AM

Quote from: jeffinsgf on September 18, 2023, 09:10 PM
I'm too slow. It sold about 2 minutes after you posted...which was an hour before I saw your post.

dndndndndndn...Admit it Jeff, you're slowly but surely becoming one of us...dndndndndndndndndndndndn

Oh, I was headed to eBay to drink the Kool-Aid. Just too late. I'm not sure about the one luvmytoolz linked. Don't think I'm looking for that much of a project...particularly at that price. Too bad. It's in my backyard.

luvmytoolz · « **Reply #99 on:** September 19, 2023, 06:49 AM »

Quote from: jeffinsgf on September 19, 2023, 06:41 AM

Quote from: Cheese on September 19, 2023, 03:02 AM
Quote from: jeffinsgf on September 18, 2023, 09:10 PM
I'm too slow. It sold about 2 minutes after you posted...which was an hour before I saw your post.

dndndndndndn...Admit it Jeff, you're slowly but surely becoming one of us...dndndndndndndndndndndndn

Oh, I was headed to eBay to drink the Kool-Aid. Just too late. I'm not sure about the one luvmytoolz linked. Don't think I'm looking for that much of a project...particularly at that price. Too bad. It's in my backyard.

It had make an offer?

jeffinsgf · « **Reply #100 on:** September 19, 2023, 07:42 AM »

Quote from: luvmytoolz on September 19, 2023, 06:49 AM

Quote from: jeffinsgf on September 19, 2023, 06:41 AM
Quote from: Cheese on September 19, 2023, 03:02 AM
Quote from: jeffinsgf on September 18, 2023, 09:10 PM
I'm too slow. It sold about 2 minutes after you posted...which was an hour before I saw your post.

dndndndndndn...Admit it Jeff, you're slowly but surely becoming one of us...dndndndndndndndndndndndn

Oh, I was headed to eBay to drink the Kool-Aid. Just too late. I'm not sure about the one luvmytoolz linked. Don't think I'm looking for that much of a project...particularly at that price. Too bad. It's in my backyard.

It had make an offer?

Yeah, I did, but he's not going to like it. It was fair, but I don't think he will think so.

Richard/RMW · « **Reply #101 on:** September 19, 2023, 10:10 AM »

Doesn't appear damaged aside from the rust and overall terrible photos. A day in a pail of Evaporust would work miracles.

My

is ~$200 is fair value for the duckbill so long as it isn't damaged badly.

There's a Columbian listed for $145 that's in decent condition. @jeffinsgf

https://www.ebay.com/itm/256143929960?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=aFqEa1R4QfG&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=lLON-PEHQ8S&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

RMW

DynaGlide · « **Reply #102 on:** September 19, 2023, 11:10 AM »

@Richard/RMW

I also have a vise problem. Although I guess mine are for a different medium:

Matt

Scott in Bend · « **Reply #103 on:** September 19, 2023, 12:11 PM »

My contribution to the FOG world of weird vises. Wilton 4" 121118, roll over and play dead, tilting vise. $30 at an estate sale last weekend.

Cheese · « **Reply #104 on:** September 19, 2023, 12:20 PM »

If I remember correctly, Columbian became a licensed manufacturer fairly late in the game, but they did produce a quality vise.

I never quite understood why there are usually grinder marks and small chunks taken out on the sides of the vise jaws. Here's mine with a before & after shot.

Here's a nice shot of the transition of the vise from the original Will-Burt duck bill to the current short jaw Shop Fox design.

Richard/RMW · « **Reply #105 on:** September 19, 2023, 12:23 PM »

Quote from: DynaGlide on September 19, 2023, 11:10 AM

@Richard/RMW

I also have a vise problem. Although I guess mine are for a different medium:

Matt

Absolute beauties Matt. Wouldn't survive the weekend in my shop...

I don't intentionally abuse tools, they just tend to be "rode hard and put away wet". Just can't have nice stuff.

RMW

jeffinsgf · « **Reply #106 on:** September 19, 2023, 01:00 PM »

Quote from: DynaGlide on September 19, 2023, 11:10 AM

@Richard/RMW

I also have a vise problem. Although I guess mine are for a different medium:

Matt

Is that carving or marquetry on your Moxon? Lovely work, either way.

jeffinsgf · « **Reply #107 on:** September 19, 2023, 01:03 PM »

Quote from: Cheese on September 19, 2023, 12:20 PM

If I remember correctly, Columbian became a licensed manufacturer fairly late in the game, but they did produce a quality vise.

I never quite understood why there are usually grinder marks and small chunks taken out on the sides of the vise jaws. Here's mine with a before & after shot.

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Did you do that by hand or did you mill it? Like your custom jaws, too.

DynaGlide · « **Reply #108 on:** September 19, 2023, 01:39 PM »

Quote from: jeffinsgf on September 19, 2023, 01:00 PM

Quote from: DynaGlide on September 19, 2023, 11:10 AM
@Richard/RMW

I also have a vise problem. Although I guess mine are for a different medium:

Matt

Is that carving or marquetry on your Moxon? Lovely work, either way.

Jeff, both vises are marquetry but I can't claim credit. A friend of mine made both of them and did the marquetry for me as gifts.

rvieceli · « **Reply #109 on:** September 19, 2023, 01:52 PM »

@jeffinsgf If you are seriously interested take a look at Facebook Marketplace. There are usually a few listed. Here's a search from today in your general area.

Ron

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/108018822553353/search?query=versa%20vise&sortBy=best_match

Cheese · « **Reply #110 on:** September 19, 2023, 02:10 PM »

Quote from: jeffinsgf on September 19, 2023, 01:03 PM

Did you do that by hand or did you mill it? Like your custom jaws, too.

By hand...like this.

Those jaws are BB ply with a couple of magnets and lined with cork-leather from In-Kleind.

https://www.in-kleind.com/store/10-x-30-Cork-Rubber-p129024790

That blue Will-Burt Ron referenced for $50 seems like a great deal. I paid $150 plus shipping from California for mine 4 years ago.

rmhinden · « **Reply #111 on:** September 19, 2023, 02:54 PM »

Quote from: Richard/RMW on September 19, 2023, 10:10 AM

There's a Columbian listed for $145 that's in decent condition. @jeffinsgf

Thanks, I ordered it.

Bob

jeffinsgf · « **Reply #112 on:** September 19, 2023, 02:56 PM »

Quote from: rvieceli on September 19, 2023, 01:52 PM

@jeffinsgf If you are seriously interested take a look at Facebook Marketplace. There are usually a few listed. Here's a search from today in your general area.

Ron

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/108018822553353/search?query=versa%20vise&sortBy=best_match

Thanks, Ron. I check frequently, but the slightly different search center gave me some I haven't seen, including a couple of the elusive duck bills.

Cheese · « **Reply #113 on:** September 19, 2023, 03:15 PM »

Quote from: rvieceli on September 19, 2023, 01:52 PM

@jeffinsgf If you are seriously interested take a look at Facebook Marketplace. There are usually a few listed. Here's a search from today in your general area.

Ron

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/108018822553353/search?query=versa%20vise&sortBy=best_match

Per Ron's post, just noticed this swivel jaw Reed...that seems rather interesting.

Richard/RMW · « **Reply #114 on:** September 19, 2023, 04:08 PM »

Quote from: rmhinden on September 19, 2023, 02:54 PM

Quote from: Richard/RMW on September 19, 2023, 10:10 AM
There's a Columbian listed for $145 that's in decent condition. @jeffinsgf

Thanks, I ordered it.

Bob

@Cheese another convert!

You'll enjoy it Bob.

RMW

rmhinden · « **Reply #115 on:** September 19, 2023, 04:21 PM »

Quote from: Richard/RMW on September 19, 2023, 04:08 PM

@Cheese another convert!

You'll enjoy it Bob.

Thanks. I will need to figure out a way to make a portable mount, and then make the jaw liners @Cheese made.

Bob

Richard/RMW · « **Reply #116 on:** September 19, 2023, 04:32 PM »

Quote from: rmhinden on September 19, 2023, 04:21 PM

Quote from: Richard/RMW on September 19, 2023, 04:08 PM

@Cheese another convert!

You'll enjoy it Bob.

Thanks. I will need to figure out a way to make a portable mount, and then make the jaw liners @Cheese made.

Bob

The base is 1-1/2" round, I used solid round stock available from Amazon and center drilled it for a 3/8" tapped hole. DOM tube would also work.

Do you have access to welding gear?

RMW

rmhinden · « **Reply #117 on:** September 19, 2023, 05:50 PM »

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Quote from: Richard/RMW on September 19, 2023, 04:32 PM

The base is 1-1/2" round, I used solid round stock available from Amazon and center drilled it for a 3/8" tapped hole. DOM tube would also work.

Do you have access to welding gear?

RMW

No access to welding gear. I was thinking of bolting the base that comes with it to a piece off wood that has another piece T'ed into it, and then securing that in my TwinTurboVice:

Since we are sharing vice pictures :-)

Bob

Cheese · « **Reply #118 on:** September 20, 2023, 12:33 AM »

Bob...Welcome to this counter-culture vise thing...this is what I produced for my Will-Burt vise.

On the top is a mount for 20 mm holes used in a MFT, on the bottom is a mount for 80/20 extrusions.

Richard/RMW · « **Reply #119 on:** September 22, 2023, 08:33 AM »

The Zyliss is a really interesting vise. I have one I use in my office/workroom mostly because there's no room in the shop. This one looks to be a re -branded original with some additional attachments you don't usually see.

It's not a vise to be hammered on or used for bending stuff but it is really stout and grips material tightly. Mine is modified to replace the handle with a 1/4" socket drive and I welded up an old ratchet for the handle.

RMW