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Offline ear3

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Clampzilla Woodpeckers OTT
« on: July 10, 2019, 05:33 PM »
This looks really tempting, though they are quite expensive:

https://www.woodpeck.com/ott-clampzilla-4-way-panel-clamp-2019.html

Really impressive that they can generate over 6000 lbs of force, which almost equals what you can do with a Bessey I-Beam.

The only downside is that max width is 38".  Wish they had taken that up to 48, as I've had to do a number of panel glue ups in the last year in excess of 40", but that would have meant almost 5 ft. long clamps.
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Offline Jiggy Joiner

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Re: Clampzilla Woodpeckers OTT
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2019, 05:43 PM »
What a great concept, I wouldn’t mind a set, even though as you say, quite expensive.

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Re: Clampzilla Woodpeckers OTT
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2019, 05:53 PM »
The concept has been around for at least 25-30 years. Leave it to WP to pretty it up and boost the price significantly. I had a set that I sold when we moved to the shore 10 years ago.



A person so-inclined could start with the kit and, using 80/20, make up an adjustable set of any length.

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Re: Clampzilla Woodpeckers OTT
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2019, 06:11 PM »
Shopsmith has a version that has been available for a long time.  They have three sizes, including 48 inches.

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Re: Clampzilla Woodpeckers OTT
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2019, 07:29 PM »
Basically the same thing Richard posted from WoodRiver. I have these and love them for how quickly I can change out the caul board for different panel sizes. The side pusher thingy isn't as robust as the one WP offers, but you can easily replace the narrow hard rubber piece with an accurately-sized caul board, too.

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Re: Clampzilla Woodpeckers OTT
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2019, 07:37 PM »
Expensive?...hold my beer.  Plano PC-2L 49-Inch Clamp Vertical Glue Press.  Bought mine years ago, I have a six clamp system.

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Re: Clampzilla Woodpeckers OTT
« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2019, 08:23 PM »
The key is the side pressure of the WP clamps. I got another brand a while back, forget the name, but they were basically worthless to clamp up anything that was edge joined with dominoes because they didn't produce enough force.
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Re: Clampzilla Woodpeckers OTT
« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2019, 10:33 PM »
Expensive?...hold my beer.  Plano PC-2L 49-Inch Clamp Vertical Glue Press.  Bought mine years ago, I have a six clamp system.

The Plano seems like a nice unit at a reasonable price. Not much more than Woodpeckers for a similar setup. How do you like yours vs using parallel clamps?

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Re: Clampzilla Woodpeckers OTT
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2019, 08:55 AM »
This clamp like most Woodpecker stuff is overpriced and designed for the tool collecting hobby guys. Really only good for a small selection of clamping needs. 6000 PSI pressure is not needed unless you are straightening improperly prepared material.

 I had the 49" Plano system that could do upto 10' long glueups for 6 years and rarely found it helpful. Painful to load and unload. I went back to parallel clamps on a bench. Making sure your pieces are cut at a perfect 90 degrees, using dominos for alignment and on large projects using slower cure epoxy instead of water based PVA glues helps with no bow units.

A good set of quality parallel clamps is a better investment and far more useful for do a wider variety of panel sizes then this specialty item, IMHO. Guys that run a small shop and do this on daily basis to make a living have a tendency to dismiss a lot of this stuff from Woodpecker.

Offline ChuckM

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Re: Clampzilla Woodpeckers OTT
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2019, 09:12 AM »
The video is irresponsible to new woodworkers in suggesting that the clamping system can get flat glue-ups from ill-prepared boards. That is a misleading way of promoting a product.

 I visited a small shop (owner couple plus 4 employees) producing lots of solid wood panel tops (for tables and doors) last Sunday to buy some lumber. The owner uses pipe clamps, clamping cauls and marine epoxy and nothing else. No biscuits, no dominoes. No jointers, only a Festool track saw to rip and joint edges. He does have a huge circular saw16", 18"?.

This shop practice from someone who makes flat panels, large and small, for a living for over 10 years.
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Re: Clampzilla Woodpeckers OTT
« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2019, 01:07 PM »
I am tempted to get a pair as I think it would work great with cauls (my bowclamps) but  the price and the width issue.
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Re: Clampzilla Woodpeckers OTT
« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2019, 01:25 PM »
Guys that run a small shop and do this on daily basis to make a living have a tendency to dismiss a lot of this stuff from Woodpecker.

I have a feeling that most Woodpecker tools go to DIY weekend warriors with sufficient disposable income. Nothing wrong with that. They produce unique tools that solve problems likely encountered by people who don't do woodworking for a living. Either lack of experience or lack of quality tools is the main cause of problems.

Production guys with deep pockets would likely be better served by a Barth RP or something similar. Very versatile, powerful, fast, and it can square up panels.

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« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2019, 01:27 PM »
They do look great. However, several years ago I bough 4 Damstom 38" panel clamps and they work great; perfect for any glue ups which are 38" or less. They now sell for $65 apiece at either Rockler or Woodcraft. If you wait for a Rockler 15% off sale and free shipping they would be $55 apiece; four for $220.

They don't exert the same top/bottom pressure, but they line the boards up perfectly and, when clamped together give virtually perfect glue joint line up of the boards.

I always love Woodpeckers stuff because it looks so great! However, in this case, I doubt I'd be gaining anything over the Damstom clamps.
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Re: Clampzilla Woodpeckers OTT
« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2019, 02:43 PM »
Guys that run a small shop and do this on daily basis to make a living have a tendency to dismiss a lot of this stuff from Woodpecker.

I have a feeling that most Woodpecker tools go to DIY weekend warriors with sufficient disposable income. Nothing wrong with that. They produce unique tools that solve problems likely encountered by people who don't do woodworking for a living. Either lack of experience or lack of quality tools is the main cause of problems.

Hey got no problem with people buying this stuff with their hard earned money but at the end of day its fluff for the most part

Production guys with deep pockets would likely be better served by a Barth RP or something similar. Very versatile, powerful, fast, and it can square up panels.

Production guys and deep pockets is rare, hobby guys with great severance packages that don't have to make a living is a better statement. With the price of Barth stuff in NA I put it in the same category as Woodpecker stuff. I've looked at Barth stuff since about 2011 and could never figure out how to recover the investment of at least $15,000.00 to $20,000.00 for a manual unit that could actually do something.

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Re: Clampzilla Woodpeckers OTT
« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2019, 12:30 PM »
The product page has been updated to include a 50 inch bar.

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« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2019, 04:19 PM »
The concept has been around for at least 25-30 years. Leave it to WP to pretty it up and boost the price significantly. I had a set that I sold when we moved to the shore 10 years ago.

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A person so-inclined could start with the kit and, using 80/20, make up an adjustable set of any length.

RMW

I had this kit (you supply the wood and they supply the plastic and metal components). All I can say is that it was not all it was cooked up the be. I ended up tossing it and buying some more Bessey clamps. I have not looked at the Woodpecker's one, but I can guess it is a better implementation.

Update: The kit I am referring to was made by Rockler (I think) and I bought it about 10 years ago. It was marginal and best and I am certain the Woodpeckers version blows it away.
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Offline Jiggy Joiner

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Re: Clampzilla Woodpeckers OTT
« Reply #16 on: July 18, 2019, 04:42 PM »
I know the actual clamping mechanism is nothing new, I was more impressed by the things Chuck mentioned, which apparently was a sales tactic. So not so good after all.

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Re: Clampzilla Woodpeckers OTT
« Reply #17 on: July 19, 2019, 09:26 AM »
The concept has been around for at least 25-30 years. Leave it to WP to pretty it up and boost the price significantly. I had a set that I sold when we moved to the shore 10 years ago.

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A person so-inclined could start with the kit and, using 80/20, make up an adjustable set of any length.

RMW

I had this kit (you supply the wood and they supply the plastic and metal components). All I can say is that it was not all it was cooked up the be. I ended up tossing it and buying some more Bessey clamps. I have not looked at the Woodpecker's one, but I can guess it is a better implementation.

Yep, my limited experience with them 10+ years ago was underwhelming, which is why they didn't make the cut when I downsized. IIRC they didn't totally force everything into perfect alignment, still had to fiddle around to get the edge joints adjusted.

I agree with @ChuckM comment below. I wasn't thinking about newbies not realizing it but the video does lead you to believe that the outcome of gluing up twisted material with the clamps will be a flat panel rather than a large propeller. 

I don't know if the heavier WP model will do a better job or not. For my very limited need to do panel glue-ups I just use cauls and K clamps.

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Re: Clampzilla Woodpeckers OTT
« Reply #18 on: July 19, 2019, 01:03 PM »
Looks like the 50" bars are an add on, cant just get the clamp in 50"


The product page has been updated to include a 50 inch bar.
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« Reply #19 on: July 19, 2019, 03:05 PM »
The concept has been around for at least 25-30 years. Leave it to WP to pretty it up and boost the price significantly. I had a set that I sold when we moved to the shore 10 years ago.

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A person so-inclined could start with the kit and, using 80/20, make up an adjustable set of any length.

RMW

I had this kit (you supply the wood and they supply the plastic and metal components). All I can say is that it was not all it was cooked up the be. I ended up tossing it and buying some more Bessey clamps. I have not looked at the Woodpecker's one, but I can guess it is a better implementation.
What was the problem? The plastic? I thought a 80/20, should work pretty good? Wishful thinking?


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Re: Clampzilla Woodpeckers OTT
« Reply #20 on: July 19, 2019, 04:43 PM »
The concept has been around for at least 25-30 years. Leave it to WP to pretty it up and boost the price significantly. I had a set that I sold when we moved to the shore 10 years ago.

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A person so-inclined could start with the kit and, using 80/20, make up an adjustable set of any length.

RMW

I had this kit (you supply the wood and they supply the plastic and metal components). All I can say is that it was not all it was cooked up the be. I ended up tossing it and buying some more Bessey clamps. I have not looked at the Woodpecker's one, but I can guess it is a better implementation.
What was the problem? The plastic? I thought a 80/20, should work pretty good? Wishful thinking?


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I updated my original post to note the one I had was not made by Woodpeckers. This one was sold by Rockler (I think) about 10 years ago. Nothing to compare between the two other than the one I had was junk.

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Re: Clampzilla Woodpeckers OTT
« Reply #21 on: July 19, 2019, 08:30 PM »
Rockler (and Woodcraft as well as other sources) now sell the Damson panel clamps. They work well and are much cheaper than the Woodpecker version (which might a little easier to use than the Damstom). I have used the Damstom clamps for several years with great success; only up to 38" though.
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Re: Clampzilla Woodpeckers OTT
« Reply #22 on: July 23, 2019, 10:15 PM »
Reviews dont seem that great on the Damstoms (LINK) and they dont pinch like the Woodpeckers do, but the Woodpeckers are insanely overpriced.
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Re: Clampzilla Woodpeckers OTT
« Reply #23 on: July 23, 2019, 10:17 PM »
Don't know what people find to be a problem with the Damstom clamps, but they work great for me. I wouldn't even consider spending the money on the Woodpecker panel clamps.  They just wouldn't buy me much of anything I don't already have with the Damstom clamps.
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« Reply #24 on: July 23, 2019, 10:47 PM »
I have three of the Damstons and they are good but they do not apply any downward pressure to keep the boards lined up as I apply clamping pressure. When I need help from the clamps to keep the boards lined up I have to add clamps in the front and the back of the piece to squeeze the damston bars They are also limited to 38”. The Clampzilla’s do provide downward pressure across the panel which, for me is the big difference. Additionally now that WP has offered the 50” option that really helps their case for me.  For those reasons I think that I am going to order a couple with the longer bars. At a million dollars a piece I don’t see stocking up but having a couple to salt in with my damston’s and my K Bodies does seem worthwhile to me.

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Re: Clampzilla Woodpeckers OTT
« Reply #25 on: July 28, 2019, 04:38 PM »
This concept has been around for many years!! While its simple.. works great.
https://advanced-machinery.myshopify.com/products/plano-vertical-glue-press?variant=27784568390
 
Unless you have significant use, the Domino and lowly bar clamps prevail.

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« Reply #26 on: July 29, 2019, 04:30 PM »
This concept has been around for many years!! While its simple.. works great.
https://advanced-machinery.myshopify.com/products/plano-vertical-glue-press?variant=27784568390
 
Unless you have significant use, the Domino and lowly bar clamps prevail.
Seriously. At these prices it'd be cheaper and WAY more versatile and useful to just buy a Domino rather than these overpriced clamps!
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« Reply #27 on: July 29, 2019, 04:50 PM »
This concept has been around for many years!! While its simple.. works great.
https://advanced-machinery.myshopify.com/products/plano-vertical-glue-press?variant=27784568390
 
Unless you have significant use, the Domino and lowly bar clamps prevail.
Also expensive. Despite previous comments the Damstoms work with a bit more setup on the beginning of the glue up than I’m sure the WP or the panel clamp setup requires. A lot less expensive though.
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Re: Clampzilla Woodpeckers OTT
« Reply #28 on: December 04, 2019, 06:49 PM »
Bumping this thread because Im curious. Did anyone order these and try them? How do they work? Many of the complaints with similar style panel clamps such as these is that the pinching pressure that flattens all the boards together isnt enough or that great. I was wondering if the same issue plagued the Woodpeckers design.
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« Reply #29 on: December 09, 2019, 12:40 PM »
I ordered a set but haven't received it yet (was supposed to ship the 29th I believe, so it should be coming soon).  Once I get them I'll let you know as I have a few tabletops I need to clamp up.

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Re: Clampzilla Woodpeckers OTT
« Reply #30 on: December 09, 2019, 01:25 PM »
I should have, but did not order the equal pressure clamps.

I know someone who did, he has received them already. He is very happy with them.

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« Reply #31 on: January 08, 2020, 11:59 PM »
I ordered 3 and they came today.

They’re a little cumbersome to setup and use. But that’s just from unpacking and playing with them for 15m.

I’ll let you guys know more on the weekend. But In hindsight.... I agree with whom ever posted above. Proper edges and flat boards. Just use parallel clamps. I’ll try them this weekend though.

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Re: Clampzilla Woodpeckers OTT
« Reply #32 on: January 09, 2020, 07:43 AM »
I’ll try them this weekend though.

Matt
It seems like they would have been useful gluing up those laminated panels you made for your workbench. What do you think?

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« Reply #33 on: January 09, 2020, 08:14 PM »
@box185 probably! My biggest downfall when gluing panels up is I overestimate how much clamping force is actually needed.

On properly jointed panels, you really don't need that much force when gluing. I always think you need more than you do and so end up bending the panels because the clamping force is disproportionally on one side (I usually just lay the boards on my workbench and put parallel clamps on top)

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« Reply #34 on: January 18, 2020, 04:44 PM »
Okay, I officially don’t like them. They’re very hard to handle and get wood into and parallel clamps work just fine.

I don’t think I would recommend them.

Matt

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« Reply #35 on: January 21, 2020, 01:03 PM »
Okay, I officially don’t like them. They’re very hard to handle and get wood into and parallel clamps work just fine.

I don’t think I would recommend them.

Matt
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Re: Clampzilla Woodpeckers OTT
« Reply #36 on: January 21, 2020, 02:11 PM »
The Woodpecker implementation of this kind of (very old) clamping scheme is too restrictive. It should be changed so that the long bars are not connected to the screw (or the opposite end) until all the boards are loaded. The old diy version (supply your own notched wooden bars) is fairly easy to use.

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« Reply #37 on: January 21, 2020, 02:20 PM »
I agree with Matt on this one.  I got suckered into buying them as well and they are a pain to setup and use.  I thought I'd prefer these over my parallel clamps and using cauls and I was wrong.  My biggest issues:

1. Setup for larger thicknesses requires a spacer block.  My fault for not fully understanding the instructions but a pain nonetheless to try to setup.
2. Setup for a certain width of glue up takes too much time to dial them in.
3. Handling them can be precarious, watch your fingers!!  Its like handling a wet noodle....
4. Storing them requires a band around them to keep them from shifting and pinching your fingers.

Bottom-line: these are overrated.
« Last Edit: January 21, 2020, 02:22 PM by Carlo Petrilli »

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« Reply #38 on: January 21, 2020, 03:14 PM »
I had my (serious) doubts about this system when the video came out. Not trying to rub salt into the wounds, this could truly be a one-time product from WP, given this kind of user feedback.

« Last Edit: January 21, 2020, 03:21 PM by ChuckM »

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« Reply #39 on: January 21, 2020, 03:14 PM »
I didn't understand the fascination either, particularly given the vertical alternatives available. The US-made version being these. If someone is going to take up a whole bunch of horizontal space they might as well invest in parallel clamps since they can perform other duties beyond panel glue-ups. Otherwise, the vertical versions above at least make an efficient use of space. Bummed that folks are in the position they are with the WP version.
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Offline mattbyington

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« Reply #40 on: January 21, 2020, 05:21 PM »
Yep, you guys have hit the nail on the head.

My biggest issue is how hard it is to setup. Getting the boards in there is really hard.

You know - you live and you learn. They also could have been fantastic. Sometimes you never know. And whomever bought it along with me, we knew the risk. Sometimes you win, sometimes you don't.

But - in general - don't recommend them.

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Re: Clampzilla Woodpeckers OTT
« Reply #41 on: January 22, 2020, 12:39 PM »
I didn't understand the fascination either, particularly given the vertical alternatives available. The US-made version being these. If someone is going to take up a whole bunch of horizontal space they might as well invest in parallel clamps since they can perform other duties beyond panel glue-ups. Otherwise, the vertical versions above at least make an efficient use of space. Bummed that folks are in the position they are with the WP version.
Or even better, since the cost of clamping rail setups like this is over half the cost already, just picking up a Festool Domino DF500 to keep panel glue-ups aligned and get to use it for a ton of other tasks! Heck even a cheap doweling jig would work too!
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Re: Clampzilla Woodpeckers OTT
« Reply #42 on: January 25, 2020, 10:25 AM »
Just took receipt of mine.  Just in time as well since I'm on the verge of a very complicated glue up of a table top for which these will be ideal.

Would note however QC issue, which is that their machine skipped over one set of holes on one of the bars.  I have no doubt that Woodpeckers will make it up and send out a replacement bar, and I may just drill it out myself on the drill press if I get to the glue up prior to receiving it myself.  But this is the first time I've had a defect in one of their products.



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Re: Clampzilla Woodpeckers OTT
« Reply #43 on: January 25, 2020, 06:16 PM »
@ear3 - I had that on one of my bars. Most of them I was able to push on with my thumb and they popped right out. One was a bit stubborn and I hit with a punch and it popped right through.

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Re: Clampzilla Woodpeckers OTT
« Reply #44 on: February 04, 2020, 01:40 PM »
Well, I should have listened to the consensus and passed on these.  They work just fine with a straighforward clamping setup, where the wood rests directly on the clampzillas and nothing else.  I just did that here, and got good results with a truly impressive amount of clamping force without any bowing of the panel:

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The problem comes when you want to combine other clamps underneath the base, or have a more complicated glue-up than just 3-4 boards of the same length.  As already noted, these clamps are a PITA to set up because of how the mechanism swings freely when not engaged.  In order to engage it relatively painlessly, the wood has to be resting directly on the bottom bar so there is no movement as the top bar is re-pinned and the metal pads are aligned against the edge of the board.  If there's a space between the wood and the bar (as there might be if you need clearance for other, taller clamps), it's a freaking nightmare to get the metal pads flush against the edge of the wood.  Such a nightmare in fact (which also risks all sorts of nicks and dents on the edge of your panel while you're struggling with it), that I probably won't even attempt it on a complicated glue-up for fear of running past the open time of my glue, unless maybe I have another person involved who can stand on the other side of the boards and assist me with the setup.
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Re: Clampzilla Woodpeckers OTT
« Reply #45 on: February 04, 2020, 02:23 PM »
@ear3   could you add (securely) a riser block to the lower rail so the Clampzilla rail is supporting the weight and providing clearance for other clamps to slide in underneath the stock?

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Re: Clampzilla Woodpeckers OTT
« Reply #46 on: February 04, 2020, 03:22 PM »
Theoretically, but this is the next glue up I'm dealing with:



@ear3   could you add (securely) a riser block to the lower rail so the Clampzilla rail is supporting the weight and providing clearance for other clamps to slide in underneath the stock?
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Re: Clampzilla Woodpeckers OTT
« Reply #47 on: February 09, 2020, 07:44 PM »
Hello everyone. Long-time lurker/learner first time poster.

I have a 1/4 garage set-up with no table saw.  Space is a premium.  Also, I am not a very good woodworker.  Not yet anyway.  Took to the promotional video for these Hook, Line, and Sinker.  Couldn't give them my money fast enough. Bought two w/ the 50'' rail extension. Thought I could get away with less clamps and imperfect edge jointing by buying these. 

Nope. 

They are basically like giant butterfly knives scissoring all-over the place.  Just a total mess.  The boards must sit flat on the bottom rail for them to work.  I have the woodpeckers clamp supports and assumed these would be compatible...but not quite.  The top of the clamp support sits just above the bottom rail, so the wood cant quite make contact.  Super frustrating.  Also, if the width of the panel falls awkwardly between two pin settings, then the clamp wont quite engage the work because the screw either runs out or the H brace is pinched by the clamping arms.

Set-up takes 4 times as long.  Time is better spent jointing the boards properly. 

Lesson learned.  There are no short-cuts for good work.  Still love their stuff, just missed the mark with these. 


Tommy

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Re: Clampzilla Woodpeckers OTT
« Reply #48 on: February 09, 2020, 08:53 PM »
Theoretically, but this is the next glue up I'm dealing with:

Are those tongue in groove or splined?