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Offline GregorHochschild

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Hi,

I just wanted to give a shout-out to Oliver Machinery newish "small" tools. I think they are a great alternative to Dewalt, which seems to be the most popular in these categories. Oliver has been around for a long time and is known for BIG industrial tools running for decades. I recently discovered their job site/ home shop tools, just purchased their jobsite table saw and think they are a great value proposition.

Oliver 10010 - 10" Jobsite Table Saw w/Roller Stand ($549.99 + shipping)
https://olivermachinery.net/10-jobsite-table-saw-2hp-w-roller-stand

Oliver 10044 - 12-1/2" Thickness Planer ($769.99 + shipping)
https://olivermachinery.net/12-5in-planer

The planer comes with a BYRD SHELIX cutterhead and WIXEY digital readout. Pretty sweet for that price.

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Offline Svar

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It's a legit company site. You can google Oliver Machinery and get in from there. Not sure why its .net
I was expecting a compact bench top, but still 300 kg cast iron machine.  [big grin]
Helical cutter head is a nice touch. Regrettably it's still a generic tool with few tweaks added, than rebadged to whoever want's their logo on it. All made in the same factory.
« Last Edit: April 16, 2021, 12:08 PM by Svar »

Offline Vondawg

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No issues (Norton) I like the little lunch box planer w/spiral head
There are no mistakes....just new designs.

Offline GregorHochschild

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It's a legit company site. You can google Oliver Machinery and get in from there. Not sure why its .net
I was expecting a compact bench top, but still 300 kg cast iron machine.  [big grin]

Which one are you looking at? The Oliver 10044 thickness planer is 68lbs or 31kg, the table saw is about 100lbs.

Offline Svar

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It's a legit company site. You can google Oliver Machinery and get in from there. Not sure why its .net
I was expecting a compact bench top, but still 300 kg cast iron machine.  [big grin]
Which one are you looking at? The Oliver 10044 thickness planer is 68lbs or 31kg, the table saw is about 100lbs.
Oliver has a long history of making old school cast iron industrial monsters. Hence when I hear "Oliver" I immediately picture one. In reality 10044 thickness planer turned out to be only 68lbs.  [sad] [big grin]
« Last Edit: April 16, 2021, 12:17 PM by Svar »

Offline jimbo51

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I think the Oliver you remember is not really related to the company under discussion. The name rights were bought years ago and all production restarted in Asia.


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Offline SRSemenza

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    The old style heavy duty equipment and the new portable  saw and planer are all listed on the site together in appropriate categories.


From the Oliver company history page............................



About the Oliver Company
A Tradition of Excellence
Oliver Machinery can trace its roots all the way back to 1890 in Grand Rapids, Michigan. The company, founded by Joseph W. Oliver, originally designed and manufactured wood trimmers that reduced labor time from 15 minutes to only a few seconds, winning Oliver a gold medal for merit at the 1900 World's Fair in Paris.

In 1908 Oliver introduced the round cutterhead, a much safer alternative to the standard square cutterhead. The new safety feature was so apparent that many states soon began requiring their installation.

In 1923 Oliver introduced the Straitoplane, a combination planer and jointer that could plane a warped board perfectly flat and straight on both surfaces in one pass. In 1929 Oliver sold over 9,000 of these machines. Other woodworking machine companies have since copied the design, testifying to its quality and distinctiveness.

Over the span of the twentieth century, Oliver adapted to the ever-changing American economy, manufacturing bread-slicers during the Depression, saws for cutting aluminum, brass, copper, steel and titanium during World War II, and packaging and printing machinery during the 1950's and 60's.

By 1994, Oliver had produced over 150,000 machines, 75,000 of which were still in operation on a daily basis worldwide. Even today, replacement parts are available on many of the popular models through an agreement with Eagle Machinery in Coopersville, MI.

In 2000, the operations were moved to Seattle, WA, but the dedication to supplying the absolute finest in heavy-duty woodworking machines continued. To introduce the new offering, in 2002 Oliver began participating at the International Woodworking Fair in Atlanta, GA. That presence continues today as the company plans for its tenth exhibition in 2020.By 2004, Oliver began offering select models with US-built Baldor motors and it also began voltage conversions to meet the demands of our growing customer base. In 2005, Oliver was one of the first brands to offer BYRD Shelix cutter heads as original equipment manufacturer on select jointer and planer models. Oliver’s distributor network continued to grow, and in 2012, the first Distributor Summit was held in Seattle with over 30 participants attending. This became an annual event and the number of dealers in attendance grew each year. In 2013 Oliver began a partnership with Belgium-built Robland and was named their Exclusive US Agent. With its dedication to the woodworking industry at all levels, in 2016, Oliver began development and introduced on a line of affordable small shop, high-end hobbyist models that continues to grow today. Heavy-duty, industrial tools are still the focus. A line of parallelogram jointers and a variable speed shaper will arrive in late 2019. While still supporting its nationwide network of local dealers, in 2019, Oliver launched a direct sale eCommerce website to service a larger marketplace, provide first-class service, and share its passion for the industry Oliver proudly serves.

Our Innovation
Oliver Machinery has a long tradition of innovation. Ever since the turn of the century when Oliver introduced the round cutterhead, they have been consistently improving and modernizing their machines to give the user the best product.

In the spirit of American ingenuity, Oliver machines improve on existing technology by utilizing features such as carbide helical cutterheads, spiral cutterheads, computerized controls and sensors, segmented infeed rollers, and advanced safety features.

In addition to their technological determination, Oliver remains true to the traditions of woodworking machinery. This means their machines are consistently more rugged, heavier-duty, and better designed than the competition, which means that your wood comes out straighter, more precise, and better crafted than with any other machine.

Offline jimbo51

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From Vintage Machinery.org

The late 1970s saw the start of hard times for many makers of woodworking machinery. Imported machinery undercut the prices of the domestic makers. To make matters worse, imported furniture was hurting some of the major machinery buyers. In 1986, Oliver Machinery filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection.

Rich Fink, an original Oliver Machinery employee, has purchased the remaining parts, inventory and drawings of the original Oliver Machinery Co. His new company is called Eagle Machinery and operates out of the same building that Oliver formerly occupied.

The Oliver name has also resurfaced on a line of imported Pacific-Rim machinery that is unrelated to the original Oliver line.

Offline DeformedTree

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Eagle Machinery News Story

Oliver died in 2000,  the "history" on the "oliver" page basically skips a key part that from 2000 they are nothing but a name handed around.  Even before finding more info just the bit on "olivers" website should have sent redflags to anyone reading it.

Like any other old name with a history, the don't die as much as they get bought and sold and slapped on any product looking for a sale to someone who doesn't know any better.

The eagle machinery place sounds interesting.  Wonder how much getting a new major casting to something cost.  But good to hear he can keep a business going by keeping the old machines going.

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Oliver Machinery’s New Bench Top Planer. Press Release 2/18/2021
All the Bells and Whistles and Much More.


Renton, WA – Woodworkers short on space, but high on expectations will want to look at Oliver Machinery’s latest Tradition of Innovation product. The model 10044 12-1/2” planer is small in stature, but big on performance. Utilizing a US-made BYRD Shelix cutterhead, this planer produces a finish equal to its industrial siblings and combined with the accuracy of a Wixey DRO, you get a package that is hard to beat.

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“When we looked at what was being offered, we wanted to give the customer a choice where an aftermarket cutterhead and adding a DRO was not needed” said Rod Nelson, Oliver’s General Manager. He went on to say “Buying a new planer only to spend almost $600.00 to make it how you really want it didn’t seem right, so we worked with BYRD Tool and the premier builder in Taiwan to produce this gem”.

Additionally, the planer features a powerful 2HP 15Amp 115V motor with a magnetic switch and thermo overload protection. In addition to protecting the motor, the switch prevents any unwanted restart in the case of power interruption."

Oliver’s design features 4-post to ensure cutterhead alignment to the table and they added a carriage lock for stability during operation. They also use a cast base that includes carry handles that is easier on your back when moving and does not put any stress on the machine’s post or carriage. With the foldable extension wings it’s easy to carry and can be set on a shelf when not being used.

Moving the cutterhead to the desired position is quick and easy with a top mounted crank handle and setting your depth of cut is a breeze with the built-in material removal gauge. In addition to the Wixey DRO which features absolute and incremental settings, the 10044 includes an easy-to-read manual scale.

Dust collection is a must on any planer and the model 10044 features a blower to assist in ejecting the chips as well as a 4” angled dust chute with a 2-1/2” adapter for those using a shop vacuum.

As with all Oliver products, the 10044 includes a 2-year parts and 1-year electrical warranty as well as a lifetime of technical support. To get yours, visit an authorized dealer or visit their website at www.olivermachinery.net.



I also found this:
Eagle Machinery & Repair, formerly of Grand Rapids MI is now in Coopersville MI & can supply O.E.M. parts for Oliver Woodworking Machines manufactured before 1999.

So, my understanding is that the current Oliver Machinery imports Belgium-built equipment from Robland N.V. and then places an Oliver metal name plate on each piece of equipment.

However, Eagle Machinery owns all the old/original Oliver spare parts and actively tries to purchase older Oliver machinery for parts or repair.

Offline DeformedTree

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"oliver machinery" should rename to "Cousin Oliver Machinery" to avoid confusion and be more accurate.

Offline ILoveTools

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...just purchased their jobsite table saw and think they are a great value proposition.

GregorH,
Thanks for posting this.

I was totally unaware of Oliver's "transformation". Like a lot of members of this forum, I am quite short of shop space and have been considering the purchase of a job-site table saw. The DeWalt 7491 is one of the favorites, and this Oliver model has many of the DeWalt's features (e.g., rack and pinion fence, etc.)

After you have used the Oliver job-site saw for awhile, I hope you will post here with a report on its performance.

Offline GregorHochschild

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Thanks to everyone for the digging. I was not aware of these details. I also realized that the Oliver 10010 is very very similar to the Grizzly G0869 with some updates. They are probably coming from the same factory.

Will do @ILoveTools. In hindsight, I might have gone for the Dewalt. There are some nice features on the Oliver though that are mostly shared with the Grizzly (rapid adjustment of blade height, variable speed motor with constant torque (not sure how that compares), integrated outfeed support, sanding disk, and some others).

Offline WarnerConstCo.

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Not the same company as the Oliver Machinery that was manufactured in Grand Rapids Michigan.

Just your typical Asian equipment, painted and sold as a different brand.

Only similarly is that someone acquired the name.

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Offline dupe

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Looks like a solid machine  [scratch chin]. I bought a Grizzly G1037Z 13" planer off CL which has served me well, but this Oliver tabletop has 1/2 more HP and stock with a Shelix head...one gripe I have on the Grizzly (besides the weight) is the table moves rather the motor/blades. IMO, having the cutters adjust depth rather than table is a huge plus in terms of outfeed support. The thickness gage on the motor cover is a nice touch. BRB, heading to Coinstar
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Offline Peter Kelly

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Oliver stuff of today comes off the same assembly lines in Taiwan and China as Grizzly, Powermatic, Delta, etc. 
http://www.geetech.com.tw/index.php/en/strategic-partenrship-e

Offline Michael Kellough

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Oliver stuff of today comes off the same assembly lines in Taiwan and China as Grizzly, Powermatic, Delta, etc. 
http://www.geetech.com.tw/index.php/en/strategic-partenrship-e

And SawStop

Offline acer66

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$30 for a zero clearance insert is steep, Bosch has them for $7 for my jobs site saw.
But good that they are in the market.