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Hi,
 Ever since buying a CT26 dust extractor I have become enthused with upgrading my tool collection with appliances that effectively collect dust.

 On the subject of Oscilating multi tools when used in cutting procedures, I have found very little info about dust extraction.

 I own a Dewalt DWE315K tool. I live in the USA and recently learned that Dewalt sells a dust extraction accessory for this tool in markets other than the USA, so I purchased, received, and have been using an example that was supplied by a UK vendor.

 The accessory, part number DT20722, is compatible with my Festool 27/32 hose.

 The dust collection works fairly well, and is certainly and improvement over using the tools without the accessory, but it seems like the design could be improved further.

 I see that Bosch and Fein offer attachments, but both seem intended to work with sanding functions rather than cutting functions. I have Festool sanders for sanding, so I think of my general purpose oscillating tool as a cutting device.

 I have been looking at the Makita tool which offers a multi purpose dust collection accessory that seems to address some of the short comings of the Dewalt design.

 The Dewalt design is a side mount where as the Makita's port is centrally located. The Dewalt side mount can get in the way for some cuts, and it also has a tendency to pivot out of position which nullifies its usefulness until you twist it back into place. The Makita's center seems to make more sense.

 I like the Dewalt tool, but am inclined to replace it with the Makita.

 Before doing so I would like to learn if anyone else has tried a few of these tools and found one better than the rest at collecting dust while cutting.

 Please share your experiences.

 Thank you.
« Last Edit: November 26, 2019, 07:05 AM by Woody Knotsensplintahs »

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Re: Best dust extraction for oscilating multitool cutting operations?
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2019, 09:07 AM »
I just went down this path. From what I've researched the accessories you want are from the Festool lineup for the OSC 18. Specifically the https://festools-online.com/203258-festool-osc-ah-ta-av-set-positioning-aid-depth-stop-dust-extraction-device-set.html?gclid=Cj0KCQiAt_PuBRDcARIsAMNlBdoabngI85--b6pGENif-i0v-1OJdPHbH2KtYFDl0QzoLbblR4vQoOMaAqs3EALw_wcB 203258 kit. The dust extraction goes onto a plunge mechanism which just looks to work well. As far as tools that this kit works with, obviously the OSC 18 but the OSC 18 is adapted/made by FEIN which means you can use it on the latest generation Multimaster and Supercut models. I'm going with the 350QSL as it was only $160 recently and I don't need cordless.

I have no experience using any OMT. When I saw the OSC 18 and its accessories I decided I wanted to use them but couldn't swallow the price of the OSC 18. What pulled me toward the FEIN/Festool lineup is the speed setting and vibration reduction.

See replies #30 and #34: https://www.festoolownersgroup.com/other-tools-accessories/fein-'suction'-shroud-and-the-vecturo-andor-mm/30/
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Re: Best dust extraction for oscilating multitool cutting operations?
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2019, 11:24 AM »
Thank you.

I did not realize that the Festool contraption was also a dust collection apparatus.

I have looked at the 575358, Festool Oscillating Tool Vecturo product page several times and never figured that out.




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Re: Best dust extraction for oscilating multitool cutting operations?
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2019, 11:40 AM »
Thank you.

I did not realize that the Festool contraption was also a dust collection apparatus.

I have looked at the 575358, Festool Oscillating Tool Vecturo product page several times and never figured that out.

That 575358 is for the old Vecturo 400. It didn't have dust extraction on the plunge base.
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Re: Best dust extraction for oscilating multitool cutting operations?
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2019, 11:53 AM »
There are actually two dust shrouds for the new Vecturo use one or the other depending on the cutting set up.

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Re: Best dust extraction for oscilating multitool cutting operations?
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2019, 04:51 PM »
I avoid battery powered tools as much as possible. I have power tools I have owned for 30 years that still run like new, and also have power tools that my Dad had when he was a young man.

I have been successfully avoiding investing in battery formats that are only going to be around for a decade or so. :-) And I am a hobbyist and DIYer so time isn't money the way it works for a jobber trying to get a days work done ASAP.

Does the new Plunger base work with the AC powered Festool Oscillating tool?

Is the 575358 still part of the Festool lineup?
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Re: Best dust extraction for oscilating multitool cutting operations?
« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2019, 12:26 AM »
With a Fein Multimaster 350QSL you can use the Fein dust extractor set up for sanding with extraction thru the sanding pad and the new Vecturo accessories for dust collection on plunge and cut.

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Re: Best dust extraction for oscilating multitool cutting operations?
« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2019, 09:53 AM »
I avoid battery powered tools as much as possible. I have power tools I have owned for 30 years that still run like new, and also have power tools that my Dad had when he was a young man.

I have been successfully avoiding investing in battery formats that are only going to be around for a decade or so. :-) And I am a hobbyist and DIYer so time isn't money the way it works for a jobber trying to get a days work done ASAP.

Does the new Plunger base work with the AC powered Festool Oscillating tool?

Is the 575358 still part of the Festool lineup?


No. The new accessories will not work on the AC Vecturo.

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Re: Best dust extraction for oscilating multitool cutting operations?
« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2019, 10:21 AM »
Does the new Plunger base work with the AC powered Festool Oscillating tool?

Is the 575358 still part of the Festool lineup?

Unfortunately no.  [crying]

Unfortunately no.  [crying] [crying]

The 575358 originally had a Plug-it-cable. However because of issues with the Vecturo contacts, Festool decided to directly hard wire the Vecturo instead. Now they've discontinued that model and are only pushing the cordless version with all of the new dust collection bits.

Here's a great thread/review on the new Festool parts installed on a Fein.

https://www.festoolownersgroup.com/other-tool-reviews/fein-18-volt-supercut-(afsc18q-(sl)/msg581227/#msg581227

Re: Best dust extraction for oscilating multitool cutting operations?
« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2019, 11:05 AM »
Thank you for the helpful info.

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Re: Best dust extraction for oscilating multitool cutting operations?
« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2019, 12:11 PM »
I already have the newer Fein MM - I think it's the 350 - and have it installed in a systainer with insert.  Total setup cost me just over $200.  I also have a bench mount attachment for the Fein.  You mount a piece to the head, like the Festool accessories, and then there's a vice component that clamps to your bench.  Handy for bringing small or detailed pieces to the tool.  I haven't used it yet... lol

The new cordless Vecturo got me thinking though.  I complain all the time about rolling up cords and already have the Festool battery system.  What I can't get past is dropping $800 on a multitool 'system'.  It's super handy when you really need one, but not a highly used tool - at least, for me.
That's appealing to think about getting the Festool accessories for $250(I'd get the set) and use them on my Fein MM.  Just continue to grumble about cords.  Much lower investment, just a little less convenient.

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Re: Best dust extraction for oscilating multitool cutting operations?
« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2019, 12:34 PM »
I already have the newer Fein MM - I think it's the 350 - and have it installed in a systainer with insert.  Total setup cost me just over $200.  I also have a bench mount attachment for the Fein.  You mount a piece to the head, like the Festool accessories, and then there's a vice component that clamps to your bench.  Handy for bringing small or detailed pieces to the tool.  I haven't used it yet... lol

The new cordless Vecturo got me thinking though.  I complain all the time about rolling up cords and already have the Festool battery system.  What I can't get past is dropping $800 on a multitool 'system'.  It's super handy when you really need one, but not a highly used tool - at least, for me.
That's appealing to think about getting the Festool accessories for $250(I'd get the set) and use them on my Fein MM.  Just continue to grumble about cords.  Much lower investment, just a little less convenient.

That's the path I'm headed down. If the cord really bothers you consider doing a plugit conversion. It'll be hooked up to a vac anyway with those accessories?
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Re: Best dust extraction for oscilating multitool cutting operations?
« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2019, 10:14 AM »
I sure would like to try the Makita, or learn about the dust collection from some one who has used it.

The low cost and sensible dust collection design seems like a good combination.

In the meantime my Dewalt with the smuggled dust port is working better than I expected, as long as I orient the tool to cut in one direction.

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Re: Best dust extraction for oscilating multitool cutting operations?
« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2019, 12:53 PM »
That's appealing to think about getting the Festool accessories for $250(I'd get the set) and use them on my Fein MM.  Just continue to grumble about cords.  Much lower investment, just a little less convenient.
I disagree on the convenient - at least as long as you're into dust collection you'll be dealing with cords anyway (simply as festool so far denies us to sink money into a cordless CT).

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Re: Best dust extraction for oscilating multitool cutting operations?
« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2019, 12:15 PM »
Good point on the dust collection making the the battery tools less 'convenient'.
I just had that struggle with my TSC this weekend.  Cutting 10 sheets of 18mm BB ply.  The bag kept filling up too quickly so I hooked up a CT.  Then the batteries kept going to I swapped a bunch of times... Might as well just have kept my old TS55 with the cord.  D'oh!
I definitely get caught by the 'grass is greener' sometimes.