Author Topic: Anyone successfully fitted a 4-1/2" (115mm) Diamabrush wheel to a RAS 115?  (Read 643 times)

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Offline TinyShop

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Just curious if anyone has successfully fitted a Diamabrush 4-1/2" (115mm) deck and siding wheel:



https://youtube.com/watch?v=AnBN00vnS6E

...to a RAS 115 with the stock dust shroud installed using an arbor adapter (female M14 x 2 to male 5/8 x 11):



[Source]

The Diamabrush 4-1/2" wheels are sold in parts of the world where the standard arbor thread/pitch for angle grinders is M14 x 2 (in those regions the deck and siding wheel comes with an adapter to allow the use of the 5/8 x 11-threaded wheel to thread onto an M14 x 2 arbor) - the same specs as the RAS 115's arbor - so that's a known quantity.

What's not known is how well the wheel and adapter will mesh with a stock RAS 115. Specifically, will the actual diameter of the wheel fit within the I.D. of the RAS 115's integral dust shroud and, if so, when installed on an arbor adapter (which effectively increases the length of the stock arbor), will it sit shy, flush or proud of the lip of the RAS 115's integral dust shroud/rotatable brush?

The goal here is to know whether I can expect to be able to use my RAS 115 and a 115mm Diamabrush deck and siding wheel (along with an arbor adapter) or whether I need to spring for the universal 5" dust shroud that Diamabrush markets (which fits most standard angle grinders) and fit that and the Diamabrush wheel to a standard 5/8" x 11 arbor'ed angle grinder (in my case, a beat-up hand-me-down DeWalt). I can't see the Diamabrush wheel in person (no one in my area stocks them) so I'll be relying on mail order. Zoro's currently running a 25% off discount with free shipping on orders more than $50 so that will be my go-to source.
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Offline Cheese

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There are some Home Depot’s that stock this item. Maybe that works for you?

I’d also read the negative reviews…issues with the blades coming loose.

Offline TinyShop

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There are some Home Depot’s that stock this item. Maybe that works for you?

I’d also read the negative reviews…issues with the blades coming loose.

Nope, not in my area (ship to store and a 30 mile round trip). I've seen the negative reviews too but have also read of exceptional customer service so not concerned should I encounter a problem.
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Offline Alex

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I've seen the negative reviews too but have also read of exceptional customer service so not concerned should I encounter a problem.

How is their exceptional customer service gonna help you if one those loose blades ends up inside of you? [scared]

Offline TinyShop

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I've seen the negative reviews too but have also read of exceptional customer service so not concerned should I encounter a problem.

How is their exceptional customer service gonna help you if one those loose blades ends up inside of you? [scared]

Uummm, that's what the dust shroud is for (contains dust and shrapnel)?

Hopefully, we can get back on topic.... ;)
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Offline TinyShop

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I've seen the negative reviews too but have also read of exceptional customer service so not concerned should I encounter a problem.

How is their exceptional customer service gonna help you if one those loose blades ends up inside of you? [scared]

Plus, if the manufacturer is to be believed (just got off the phone with them) in most if not all cases someone who experiences a thrown blade does so as a result of using the wheel without the dust shroud (absolutely not recommended) and/or otherwise allowing the vertical face of the blades to contact a surface (not how the tooling is designed) like when improperly stripping clapboard siding. The wheel must be held flat against a relatively flat surface, not allowed to contact vertical surface and all metal fasteners must (of course) be countersunk. Assuming the tooling is used as designed the chance of throwing a blade is incredibly low (and would, in that case, be due to manufacturing error not user error). Always have to dig deeper than user reviews....   
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Online DeformedTree

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I've seen the negative reviews too but have also read of exceptional customer service so not concerned should I encounter a problem.

How is their exceptional customer service gonna help you if one those loose blades ends up inside of you? [scared]

Home Depot has a great return policy.  So even if part of it is embedded in your torso, they will give you a full refund (and probably put it and your damaged torso back on the shelf).

The item looks like it belongs in a water pump, not something that goes to a grinder.

Offline Kev

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I recently had a near miss with a chainsaw .. well, it wasn't actually a miss as I still lost a fair bit of flesh on the inside of my leg but I did stop short of cutting through my femoral artery .. so I'm calling that a near miss.

Even when you use a tool properly unexpected things can happen. Fitting non standard parts to a tool that spins at a zillion rpm is a risk simply not worth taking IMHO.

It's the lucky people that can look back on an incident and say "that was probably a risk that wasn't worth taking".

Offline TinyShop

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I've seen the negative reviews too but have also read of exceptional customer service so not concerned should I encounter a problem.

How is their exceptional customer service gonna help you if one those loose blades ends up inside of you? [scared]

Home Depot has a great return policy.  So even if part of it is embedded in your torso, they will give you a full refund (and probably put it and your damaged torso back on the shelf).

The item looks like it belongs in a water pump, not something that goes to a grinder.

If you're talking about the adapter, fear not, there are numerous versions in the marketplace, all intended for the concrete and stone grinding industry. If you're referring instead to the wheel then I'm afraid I don't see the connection. Looks to me like just another variation on a grinding wheel. Folks should be happy I'm trying to get this to work with the RAS 115 - even at its top speed it spins at a much slower RPM than standard angle grinders.
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Offline TinyShop

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The wheel and shroud arrived earlier today. I can report that the diameter of the wheel is too large to fit in the RAS 115's dust shroud. This is too bad since were the diameter slightly smaller (and the threading M14 x 2) it would fit perfectly.
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