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Offline MTbassbone

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Woodpeckers Auto-Line Drill Guide
« on: May 05, 2021, 07:47 PM »
Anyone have one of these?  I have a drill press that takes up way to much space in my garage, and needs an overhaul.  However, this looks like it might meet 95% or more of my needs. 
« Last Edit: May 05, 2021, 08:48 PM by MTbassbone »

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Offline Erich

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Re: Woodpeckers Auto-Line Drill Guide
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2021, 08:38 PM »
I have one on order because it looks very capable. It is new for them. Not due to ship until the end of July.

Offline MTbassbone

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Re: Woodpeckers Auto-Line Drill Guide
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2021, 08:49 PM »
It will be interesting to see it stacks up against the Rockler drill guide.

Offline rmhinden

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Re: Woodpeckers Auto-Line Drill Guide
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2021, 08:57 PM »
I purchased the Rockler Portable Drill Guide earlier this year for a project.    It is pretty stout and works well for me.  I first tried another brand, but found it to be too flimsy. 

It doesn't replace my drill press, but great for times when the work pieces are too big to bring to the drill press.   

BTW, I have looked at the WP drill guide on the web, seems interesting but might be finicky with all of the different parts and attachments.   It's also quite expensive even compared to the Rockler that wasn't cheap.

Offline DynaGlide

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Re: Woodpeckers Auto-Line Drill Guide
« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2021, 09:41 PM »
I'm holding out for a drill guide with a vacuum clamping base. The WP was just about perfect but they left out the ability to attach a sub base.
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Offline JD2720

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Re: Woodpeckers Auto-Line Drill Guide
« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2021, 09:48 PM »
I'm holding out for a drill guide with a vacuum clamping base. The WP was just about perfect but they left out the ability to attach a sub base.

The holes for the centering pins could be used to attach a sub base.

Offline Packard

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Re: Woodpeckers Auto-Line Drill Guide
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2021, 10:34 AM »
This design appeals to me, but I can't find much information about it. 

https://innovativetooling.com/product/itmda-manual-drill-attachment-tool/

Features
Adjustable guide rods for different cutting tool lengths.
Also available set up for external vacuum.
Adjustable spring tension allows variance of resistance to operator.
Adjustable stop collar – eliminates drill breakthrough damage.
1-1/2″ guide rod bushings for increased stability.
Precision hole-drilling at a fraction of the cost of conventional power-feed drillmotors.
Weighs only 4 lbs light.

It is designed for aircraft assembly so I would imagine it is going to be pricey.   I don't know if "external vacuum" means chip removal or vacuum clamping.  They say "call for availability" and they don't list the price.


Offline ChuckS

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Re: Woodpeckers Auto-Line Drill Guide
« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2021, 11:56 AM »
I purchased the Rockler Portable Drill Guide earlier this year for a project.    It is pretty stout and works well for me.  I first tried another brand, but found it to be too flimsy.
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I tried this one (at less than one third of the price of the Rockler's) borrowed from a neighbor, and it worked pretty well: https://www.leevalley.com/en-ca/shop/tools/jigs-guides-and-fixtures/73237-drill-guide?item=46J8370

But this kind of drill guide is no match to the WP's which has a fence system.
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Offline Packard

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Re: Woodpeckers Auto-Line Drill Guide
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Offline JD2720

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Re: Woodpeckers Auto-Line Drill Guide
« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2021, 12:43 PM »
It appears to be the same one offered by Amazon for $33.00. (Though Lee Valley does not show part numbers).

And when I look it up at Lee Valley, they are showing $36.50 and not $49.50.  Same item.  Same vendor.  Two different prices.  Strange.

https://www.leevalley.com/en-us/shop/tools/jigs-guides-and-fixtures/73237-drill-guide?item=46J8370&utm_source=free_google_shopping&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=shopping_feed&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIxdLLo7y18AIV4f3jBx2WkAQVEAkYBCABEgLNSfD_BwE


https://www.amazon.com/Milescraft-1318-DrillMate-Drill-Guide/dp/B014A1Z92I/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=milescraft+drill+guide&qid=1620318118&sr=8-1

$36.50 is the US dollars price. $49.50 is the Canada dollars price.
« Last Edit: May 06, 2021, 02:56 PM by JD2720 »

Offline Packard

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Re: Woodpeckers Auto-Line Drill Guide
« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2021, 04:27 PM »
Yes, that makes more sense.  I didn't look to see where it was located.  I have bought from other than USA Amazon.com.

I've bought from Amazon.de (Germany) and Amazon.sp (Spain) for items not imported to the USA.

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Offline WillAdams

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Re: Woodpeckers Auto-Line Drill Guide
« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2021, 11:11 PM »
I have decided to pick up the DJ-3 from Bridge City Tool Works once it's released later this year (see the announcement/discussion on John Economaki's blog on the Bridge City Tool Works site) --- looks capable and precise enough to do pretty much everything.

Offline jussi

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Re: Woodpeckers Auto-Line Drill Guide
« Reply #13 on: May 07, 2021, 12:15 AM »
I have the DJ-2.  While I don't use it often (can and prefer to use the dp most of the time) it has worked well when I needed it.  I also have the expansion pack but haven't used it.

Offline JD2720

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Re: Woodpeckers Auto-Line Drill Guide
« Reply #14 on: May 07, 2021, 07:26 AM »
I have the DJ-2.  While I don't use it often (can and prefer to use the dp most of the time) it has worked well when I needed it.  I also have the expansion pack but haven't used it.

I also have the DJ-2. It works very well. I do not have the expansion pack.

Offline MTbassbone

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Re: Woodpeckers Auto-Line Drill Guide
« Reply #15 on: May 09, 2021, 11:20 AM »
I am leaning towards the Rockler guide now.  It seems to be a bit more stable.  I too saw the drill bit wobbling in the video of the Woodpeckers guide.

Offline MTbassbone

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Re: Woodpeckers Auto-Line Drill Guide
« Reply #16 on: May 10, 2021, 08:08 PM »
I reached out to WPer's about the wobble in the video and any reports of run out.  Here is their response:

"The product has been thoroughly tested and prototyped.  The chuck is a quality unit made by Yukiwa-Seiko. I'm not sure of the specs on the chuck or the variables in the drill bit used in the video.   Runout in the chuck should be minimal.  It mostly depends on the bit used."

My only hesitation about the Rockler drill guide is whether I could make a DIY fence.  Anyone with the Rockler guide have any experiences with this?  Also do you feel it is a reasonable option for a small work space where a drill press cannot fit?



Offline rmhinden

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Re: Woodpeckers Auto-Line Drill Guide
« Reply #17 on: May 10, 2021, 09:10 PM »
My only hesitation about the Rockler drill guide is whether I could make a DIY fence.  Anyone with the Rockler guide have any experiences with this?  Also do you feel it is a reasonable option for a small work space where a drill press cannot fit?

I haven't made a fence, but I was drilling 1 1/4" holes with a forstner bit on the top of a vice jaw for dog holes, I screwed the drill guide to a board, to increase the stability.   Based on this I assume you could make a fence.   

I use it for drilling vertical holes on things I can't bring to the drill press.   I don't think of it as a replacement for a drill press, but as a supplement.   I suppose if I didn't have a drill press, I might consider making a fixture to attach it to a Festool rail if I wanted to drill a series of holes.    Sort of like the LR-32 setup.

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Re: Woodpeckers Auto-Line Drill Guide
« Reply #18 on: May 10, 2021, 11:50 PM »
I preordered the WP drill guide back when it was first announced. My general experience with WP has been that they make excellent products and stand behind them: I feel fairly confident that if there are any issues with runout or alignment, they'll either fix them before shipping or make it right afterwards. I just did a project where this thing would have been a huge help to me; I would have loved to just clamp my drill and go rather than dragging a bunch of panels over to the drill press and trying to keep them aligned and steady on the table.

Offline MTbassbone

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Re: Woodpeckers Auto-Line Drill Guide
« Reply #19 on: May 14, 2021, 09:17 PM »
I ended up ordering the Rockler drill guide.  If it doesn't seem like what I want I will return it and give the Woodpeckers a try.

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Re: Woodpeckers Auto-Line Drill Guide...Now Shipping
« Reply #20 on: May 21, 2021, 10:12 AM »
From Woodpecker's:

With regards to your purchase of the AUTO-LINE DRILL GUIDE - SKU: ALDG-21, shipping is ahead of schedule!  We will ship beginning today and will continue until all orders have been filled. You will receive an email confirmation when your order is shipping to you. 

Offline Chainring

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Re: Woodpeckers Auto-Line Drill Guide
« Reply #21 on: May 21, 2021, 01:23 PM »
Woohoo, that's good news! I've had my pre-order in on the WP drill guide for quite a while. The sale price was too tempting.

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Re: Woodpeckers Auto-Line Drill Guide
« Reply #22 on: May 21, 2021, 05:08 PM »
I have one of these from Protool times of carpentry drills.

Not the same but close.
Irreplaceable for precise holes in the middle of a big flat piece or finished piece etc. They can replace a drill press on those occasional and light tasks too.

But for work where repeatability, low speed - high torque, or stability are needed a drill press is a drill press.

I would say one should seek both as neither is a substitute for other. A Grill Guide is probably better to get first. It can do the job of a Press, just worse.
Press cannot do some tasks you can do with a Drill guide while most tasks a press can do you can do with the drill guide. Just with less precision though better than freehand.
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Re: Woodpeckers Auto-Line Drill Guide
« Reply #23 on: July 16, 2021, 10:31 AM »
There seem to be a lot off copies of the Auto-Line Drill Guide advertised, although they are look like the same item at about the 10th of the price of the genuine Woodpecker item. I am in the UK and I ordered one from Amazon, not directly from them but through their marketplace. It was supposedly being shipped from China but never arrived. I complained to Amazon and they refunded my money. I wonder if these items actually exist. Has anyone actually managed to get one?

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Re: Woodpeckers Auto-Line Drill Guide
« Reply #24 on: July 16, 2021, 10:50 AM »
Watch the credit card you used for that purchase very closely.

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Re: Woodpeckers Auto-Line Drill Guide
« Reply #25 on: July 16, 2021, 12:54 PM »
Setting aside the "too good to be true" nature of what your raise, even a cursory review of the particulars surrounding those obviously fraudulent listings points to the fact that what will arrive in the post (if anything arrives at all) will bear no resemblance to the real thing.

That said, I've got some ocean front property in Nebraska you might interested in. ;)
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Offline ChuckS

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Re: Woodpeckers Auto-Line Drill Guide
« Reply #26 on: July 16, 2021, 02:27 PM »
Watch the credit card you used for that purchase very closely.

Good advice. In future, use Paypal when dealing with unknown vendors to hide your credit card info.

No experience with this particular copycat item, but based on feedback by buyers many patent-infringed (?) or copies of genuine tools do come through on the Amazon, eBay, Baboo (sp. ?), and Chinese online sites. I wouldn't be surprised if someone eventually bought and received the Chinese version of the WP drill guide later.  Their manufacturing base is wide and deep, and the low tech drill guide is no hurdle to them for sure. Quality? Can't tell until someone has one and reports back.
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Re: Woodpeckers Auto-Line Drill Guide
« Reply #27 on: July 16, 2021, 03:47 PM »
We just had a (non)customer send us pictures of his "genuine Woodpeckers adjustable square". The head is rubberized plastic.

At least he got something. Most from the recent rash of pirate sites are just getting their credit cards ripped off.

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Re: Woodpeckers Auto-Line Drill Guide
« Reply #28 on: July 16, 2021, 08:44 PM »
I'm sincerely hoping that with the current government appetite for cracking down on Big Tech, they start imposing some liability on Amazon for failing to police these kinds of listings/vet its sellers. The "we're just a matchmaking tool, not a retailer" excuse has worn quite thin and it's a major harm to small businesses making innovative products, few of whom can afford to hire staff to police marketplace sites for fraudulent listings 24/7.

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Re: Woodpeckers Auto-Line Drill Guide
« Reply #29 on: July 16, 2021, 09:16 PM »
There seem to be a lot off copies of the Auto-Line Drill Guide advertised, although they are look like the same item at about the 10th of the price of the genuine Woodpecker item. I am in the UK and I ordered one from Amazon, not directly from them but through their marketplace. It was supposedly being shipped from China but never arrived. I complained to Amazon and they refunded my money. I wonder if these items actually exist. Has anyone actually managed to get one?

The same here. Curiosity got the better of me! Even the advertising pictures show the Woodpecker label. What a blatant breach of copyright. I wonder why Amazon hasn't deleted this product as they must have had complaints.

https://www.amazon.com.au/gp/product/B096FFD48M?pf_rd_r=B4SBK7X67GRTTAK52TZR&pf_rd_p=88139ad0-7d25-4c83-8c58-0a14efa0ec66&pd_rd_r=1f8a7010-19f3-46f6-a1f7-de713ff0b781&pd_rd_w=o1Qd7&pd_rd_wg=sA5EI&ref_=pd_gw_unk