Author Topic: Tanos latches with lock. (Read 22679 times)

Franck Tetreau · « **on:** September 16, 2009, 07:23 PM »

Hello All,

Tanos is Germany is comming with a new latches for the systainer and would like to feel the US market.
What do you think? would you buy a set of latches with a key lock on it and if yes how much would you pay!
Would you like to see multiple colors?
I understand the lock is not to protect from having the tool stolen, but more to be sure no one use your tool when no on the job or if you have document... thing of these matter.
Also, if you like to give more feed back Tanos as now a Fan Club on facebook just look for Tanos systainer.

Thanks

Franck Tetreau

Dan Rush · « **Reply #1 on:** September 16, 2009, 07:34 PM »

Franck,

I probably would not pay even the $25 for locking latches. I'm on jobsites, and unfortunately, it's easier for bad guys to just pick up a systainer and walk off with it. But different colored latches would be interesting to see. I would have a use for those.

Another idea from the end user training was being able to buy just the new storage or "attic" lid for my existing systainers. I could go for at least a dozen of those right now.

Thanks, Dan

Steve-CO · « **Reply #2 on:** September 16, 2009, 07:38 PM »

Quote from: Dan Rush on September 16, 2009, 07:34 PM

Frank,

I probably would not pay even the $25 for locking latches. I'm on jobsites, and unfortunately, it's easier for bad guys to just pick up a systainer and walk off with it. But different colored latches would be interesting to see. I would have a use for those.

Another idea from the end user training was being able to buy just the new storage or "attic" lid for my existing systainers. I could go for at least a dozen of those right now.

Thanks, Dan

Dan,

Check out Japan WoodWorker, they have various colored latches. http://www.japanwoodworker.com/dept.asp?s=JapanWoodworker&dept_id=23401

EcoFurniture · « **Reply #3 on:** September 16, 2009, 07:39 PM »

Can't find you on Facebook....

WarnerConstCo. · « **Reply #4 on:** September 16, 2009, 07:41 PM »

I second the locking latches. Someone would just pick up the whole thing. Hopefully followed by a beat down.

Different color latches would be sweet!!

I know its been said before but, can the label be printed on the systainer itself? I have too many and am getting confused.

Franck Tetreau · « **Reply #5 on:** September 16, 2009, 07:42 PM »

http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/pages/Tanos-systainer/132593936405?ref=nf

here is the link to the tanos systainer fan club. fell free to put photos and comments and video.. but must of all let everyone know.
Thanks

Franck

Franck Tetreau · « **Reply #6 on:** September 16, 2009, 07:46 PM »

Look like some of you like to see different colors?
go to www.mysystainer.com they have in stock Red, Yellow, sky blue, sapphire blue, emerald green and anthracite.

I am will bring in the future orange.

Franck

Dan Rush · « **Reply #7 on:** September 16, 2009, 07:48 PM »

Hey Darcy,

Labels?? Come on man, get a Sharpie!!

Dan

Franck Tetreau · « **Reply #8 on:** September 16, 2009, 07:51 PM »

Hi Dan,

What do you mean by "being able to buy just the new storage or "attic" lid for my existing systainers"

Dan Rush · « **Reply #9 on:** September 16, 2009, 07:56 PM »

Franck,

I'm referring to the systainer 2 that comes with the new t+3 drills. The lid has a nifty small parts storage area built in.

I know festool will be coming out with the empty systainer with this lid soon, but I would prefer to just buy the lids, put them on my existing systainers, and hopefully save a few bucks.

Dan

Franck Tetreau · « **Reply #10 on:** September 16, 2009, 07:59 PM »

I will check with Germany to see if the lid can be purchase separately. But you will have to request the dealer to get them in their next order.

Franck

Dan Rush · « **Reply #11 on:** September 16, 2009, 08:09 PM »

Franck,

First, I'm sorry, I just realized I've been misspelling your name. I've corrected my earlier posts.

Thanks for looking into the lids. I'm sure, just from talking to some of my comrades, that the lids could be a good seller.

Thanks again, Dan

WarnerConstCo. · « **Reply #12 on:** September 16, 2009, 08:15 PM »

Quote from: Dan Rush on September 16, 2009, 07:48 PM

Hey Darcy,

Labels?? Come on man, get a Sharpie!!

Dan

I know, I think it is my only option. I just can't seem to actually do it though.

Franck Tetreau · « **Reply #13 on:** September 16, 2009, 08:20 PM »

I have a better solution and it is better then the sticker.

http://www.mysystainer.com/SearchResults.asp?Search=110-207

They come in a set of 10 pack for $9.85! I hope that is a solution!! not free but it works very well.

Franck

Dan Rush · « **Reply #14 on:** September 16, 2009, 08:21 PM »

Actually, all jokes aside, I've used the sharpie method for years, and when it's time to re-label a box, a bit of lacquer thinner on a coarse rag takes the ink right off ( be careful of the green Festool lettering, though, it shmooey's up good.) I just wish I could learn to read my own writing now.

Dan

EcoFurniture · « **Reply #15 on:** September 16, 2009, 08:34 PM »

Quote from: Franck Tetreau on September 16, 2009, 07:42 PM

http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/pages/Tanos-systainer/132593936405?ref=nf

here is the link to the tanos systainer fan club. fell free to put photos and comments and video.. but must of all let everyone know.
Thanks

Franck

Hi Franck,

Thanks for the link! But for some reason I can't open it... Facebook will direct me to my start page... Anyhow, I would still like to join your group! Maybe you can send me an invitation? Just an idea... My user name is Andreas Schwall

Cheers,
Andreas

Alex · « **Reply #16 on:** September 16, 2009, 08:42 PM »

If you set up a poll and ask "Would you buy a set of latches with a lock on it and how much would you pay?", wouldn't it be kind of a necessity to include the option "No"?

Because I would say no, personally, I don't see the use for them. People will just take the whole systainer.

What I would like to see is more different types of inlays. Preferably a system where you could design your own. And not just permanent inlays that are meant to sit always inside the systainer, but trays you can take out. For example, say you want to take your hand tools with you in a sys 3. It would be very nice if you could have a set of 2 or 3 trays you could stack inside the sys3 with your tools in them, and take tray by tray out on the job site.

Franck Tetreau · « **Reply #17 on:** September 16, 2009, 08:52 PM »

the reason is we already design the new latches but like to know what price end user will be interested to pay?
Again, the point of the lock is not really to protect your tool from being stolen but more like a protection for someone not to use the tool for example you go out to lunch someone take your tools and do something he should not do with the tool

? He doesn't care it is not his tool.. Also, for Tans Systainer we have also office systainer and some other for file organizer etc.. the lock will be another protection for someone to look inside. I hope you understand my point???

Franck

EcoFurniture · « **Reply #18 on:** September 16, 2009, 09:22 PM »

I can totally see your point! Some of the tools I don't want to be available for my staff. As some tools are perfectly adjusted and I don't want them to get messed up....
As for the office systainer it makes even more sense!

Franck Tetreau · « **Reply #19 on:** September 16, 2009, 09:30 PM »

Yes to have a lock in a ABS box makes none sense for protection!
Now, about your nice router bits and A/C or you are in a home with children?? it also can be use more as a safety device.

Franck

Robert Robinson · « **Reply #20 on:** September 17, 2009, 05:44 AM »

I added it to my profile,I wasn't sure how to send it directly to you, but since we are already friends, just check my profile.I am the 12th fan too.

Quote from: EcoFurniture on September 16, 2009, 08:34 PM

Quote from: Franck Tetreau on September 16, 2009, 07:42 PM
http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/pages/Tanos-systainer/132593936405?ref=nf

here is the link to the tanos systainer fan club. fell free to put photos and comments and video.. but must of all let everyone know.
Thanks

Franck

Hi Franck,

Thanks for the link! But for some reason I can't open it... Facebook will direct me to my start page... Anyhow, I would still like to join your group! Maybe you can send me an invitation? Just an idea... My user name is Andreas Schwall

Cheers,
Andreas

Holzhacker · « **Reply #21 on:** September 17, 2009, 09:15 AM »

I might buy locks for a particular sys but unlikely. Definitely wouldn't pay more than $25, they would have to be in the 10-15 range for me to even consider. It's a gimmick accessory. Thieves take the whole sys, my kids and co-workers know better than to mess with my tools without permission.
I'd buy the attic lids at reasonable price as soon as available.

ForumMFG · « **Reply #22 on:** September 17, 2009, 09:39 AM »

I think the locks should be marketed more towards the people who travel with systainers. If I'm just leaving them in my shop, people know not to touch my stuff and if they get stolen, this lock won't prevent anyone from getting to it. I know they are not meant for that anyway. Locks prevent honest people from getting into them. They might work well for people who work in a office setting and use them for files and other things as well. I wouldn't buy them but I suspect a lock should cost around $10. A CompX national lock costs about $5, so I think being that these locks are a little more involved and nicer so I think $10 bucks each is a good deal.

GreenGA · « **Reply #23 on:** September 17, 2009, 10:06 AM »

I like the idea of keeping others out of my tools. While everyone knows they should not touch my Festools unless I give specific permission at that time, there have been occastions where it was assumed that since I gave permission in the past, it would be granted in the future.

That said, 25 bucks for a couple of latches and a key seems like a lot of money. The latches are already available at 10.50 for a pack of 4. If locks and keys were included, they would probably be sold in sets of two. So, 5.25 for two latches, maybe.... another 10-15 bucks for a couple a keys and locks. Maybe that would work.

Forrest Anderson · « **Reply #24 on:** September 17, 2009, 02:38 PM »

As regards locking a Systainer, remember that the lid and body of a Systainer have knock-outs so that a padlock can be used:

Has anyone drilled/punched out these knock-outs to fix a padlock?

Quote from: Dan Rush on September 16, 2009, 07:56 PM

I'm referring to the systainer 2 that comes with the new t+3 drills. The lid has a nifty small parts storage area built in.

I know festool will be coming out with the empty systainer with this lid soon, but I would prefer to just buy the lids, put them on my existing systainers, and hopefully save a few bucks.

Be aware that the parts that make up an "attic" Sytainer lid, which has a storage area for small parts, is listed in the Festool USA parts catalogue. There are four items of interest:

477475, Cover, 11.50 USD (the main lid)
477476, Klarsichtklappe, 4.50 USD (transparent lid for parts section)
477477, Closure, 2.60 USD (the catch which secures the transparent lid)
477478, Trennsteg, 0.90 USD (divider)

The "attic" lid also comprises the handle, but I assume you'd want to use the transfer one.

Forrest

Franck Tetreau · « **Reply #25 on:** September 17, 2009, 02:58 PM »

Yes, you can also put a barrel lock in the systainer but you have to use a templet with a router, drill and revet.
The best way with the latches is no modification. just take out the old latches and put the one with the barrel lock.
If someone want the templet just email me and I will give you the templet.

Franck

bonesbr549 · « **Reply #26 on:** September 17, 2009, 03:59 PM »

I like you poll but I thing you need another option. "I do not think locks on the containers are worth it". I just don't see what they get you. It's a plastic box and If I wanted the contents I'd just pick it up and walk off or break the hinges with a lock and walk off with the contents. The sysports are nice if you want to lock it up semi-secure. Just m2cw

Steve-CO · « **Reply #27 on:** September 17, 2009, 04:08 PM »

Quote from: bonesbr549 on September 17, 2009, 03:59 PM

I like you poll but I thing you need another option. "I do not think locks on the containers are worth it". I just don't see what they get you. It's a plastic box and If I wanted the contents I'd just pick it up and walk off or break the hinges with a lock and walk off with the contents. The sysports are nice if you want to lock it up semi-secure. Just m2cw

See posts above, the locks aren't necessarily intended to make the contents so they can't be stolen.

Charimon · « **Reply #28 on:** September 17, 2009, 09:12 PM »

a couple questions
1 can you latch lock systainers together ie a systainer on a sortainer that you dont want uncoupled

2 wouldn't only one latch lock preform the function you describe per systainer

Craig

Franck Tetreau · « **Reply #29 on:** September 17, 2009, 11:05 PM »

1- Yes, you will be able to lock your stacked systainer.

2- Yes, also one lock could be enough to lock them in for the purpose of having no one look at the inside.

Great question.

Franck

GreenGA · « **Reply #30 on:** September 18, 2009, 08:23 AM »

Now this may change some minds. One lock and the entire stack is locked. Kinda like a filing cabinet.

Quote from: Franck Tetreau on September 17, 2009, 11:05 PM

1- Yes, you will be able to lock your stacked systainer.

2- Yes, also one lock could be enough to lock them in for the purpose of having no one look at the inside.

Franck

bustedbolt · « **Reply #31 on:** September 19, 2009, 06:56 PM »

sounds good franck,

i think the majority of people here are home-users of their tools and may not be interested.
I think all professionals have at some point lost something small and annoying on a mixed jobsite.
I would be interested in further security developments/integrations... wire in the plastic, reinforced locking points etc.

I don't use a big metal JOBOX but most professional contractors do. I like the expanding toolbox part of systainer and use it regularly. often the systainer stack is intimidating/new/strange enough to keep people from going thru your stuff.

do you have photos or an explanation of how this would secure the systainers below it?
does it just lock the one right below it?

Dave Ronyak · « **Reply #32 on:** September 20, 2009, 10:59 PM »

As a home shop use, latches in different colors are of interest to me. Locking latches are not, unless the cost differential is much less than ~US$20 proposed.

Dave R.