Author Topic: Spax finally made a T-Loc Systainer (Read 13686 times)

grobkuschelig · « **on:** March 19, 2019, 10:01 AM »

Hi all,

I don’t know, if I just missed this, but in my recollection, the Spax-Box was only available as an L-Boxx previously.
So I wanted to share my knowledge gain, for anyone else who might have not seen it prior.

So finally, there is a different green available to organize your screws.

Found the images on the Spax Webpage:
https://www.spax.com/de/produkte/extras/schraubenset/spax-box-systainer-t-loc-i-schraubenset-mit-12-abmessungen-senkkopf-t-star-plus-4cut-wirox/gid-33338/

Dick Mahany · « **Reply #1 on:** March 19, 2019, 10:26 AM »

Very nice. Just checked Amazon.de but unfortunately no sellers currently delivering to USA

Hopefully it will become available here in the future. I currently keep my Spax fasteners in a TLoc small parts organizer but this one looks very good. Thanks for posting the information.

DynaGlide · « **Reply #2 on:** March 19, 2019, 10:27 AM »

I don't need a Spaxtainer. I don't need a Spaxtainer. I don't need a Spaxtainer. It isn't working.

grobkuschelig · « **Reply #3 on:** March 19, 2019, 10:36 AM »

Quote from: DynaGlide on March 19, 2019, 10:27 AM

I don't need a Spaxtainer. I don't need a Spaxtainer. I don't need a Spaxtainer. It isn't working.

. Sorry. But I thought if I share the disease, it might bring joy to the world...

DynaGlide · « **Reply #4 on:** March 19, 2019, 10:58 AM »

Luckily I'm a GRK user. Now if they were to make a systainer loaded up with their cabinetry screws I would be in trouble.

safety1st · « **Reply #5 on:** March 19, 2019, 11:41 AM »

I am guessing some folks know about this spax assortment from highland hardware.

https://www.highlandwoodworking.com/festool-systainer-1-box-with-spax-screws.aspx

Thanks.

StanB · « **Reply #6 on:** March 19, 2019, 12:26 PM »

I got this kit; I use it every time im in the shop. I think it was a decent deal too.

Quote from: safety1st on March 19, 2019, 11:41 AM

I am guessing some folks know about this spax assortment from highland hardware.

https://www.highlandwoodworking.com/festool-systainer-1-box-with-spax-screws.aspx

Thanks.

JimH2 · « **Reply #7 on:** March 19, 2019, 01:58 PM »

I don't see the big deal. Why not just make your own up. I did for the square drive screws and it has exactly what I want and use in it.

grobkuschelig · « **Reply #8 on:** March 19, 2019, 02:12 PM »

Quote from: JimH2 on March 19, 2019, 01:58 PM

I don't see the big deal. Why not just make your own up. I did for the square drive screws and it has exactly what I want and use in it.

I have 4 “screws & fixings” Systainers for different applications, but the nice green SPAX Systainer would make it a lot easier to locate them in the stack of Festools.

Luxury problems...

NL-mikkla · « **Reply #9 on:** March 19, 2019, 02:34 PM »

And all with T20 bit!

ColossusX · « **Reply #10 on:** March 19, 2019, 04:26 PM »

I use GRK (actually never used Spax) but I do love that green sys. That Highland set looks like a decent deal. $38 bucks for 1000 asst Spax screws over the cost of a Sys1 with the bins.

Route24Design · « **Reply #11 on:** March 19, 2019, 04:35 PM »

Are one better than the other? I see both brands at my local Home Depot. What sizes are good to store for cabinet builds?

Sparktrician · « **Reply #12 on:** March 19, 2019, 07:03 PM »

Quote from: WoodworkTech on March 19, 2019, 04:35 PM

Are one better than the other? I see both brands at my local Home Depot. What sizes are good to store for cabinet builds?

Look for GRK Cabinet Screws. They're just wonderful!

travisj · « **Reply #13 on:** March 19, 2019, 08:33 PM »

I love the GRK R4 #9 x 2” for cabinet carcass construction. The best screws I’ve ever used for building 3/4” ply boxes.

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Route24Design · « **Reply #14 on:** March 19, 2019, 08:52 PM »

Quote from: travisj on March 19, 2019, 08:33 PM

I love the GRK R4 #9 x 2” for cabinet carcass construction. The best screws I’ve ever used for building 3/4” ply boxes.

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Any other sizes that are good to have on hand?

Peter_C · « **Reply #15 on:** March 19, 2019, 10:19 PM »

Quote from: WoodworkTech on March 19, 2019, 08:52 PM

Quote from: travisj on March 19, 2019, 08:33 PM
I love the GRK R4 #9 x 2” for cabinet carcass construction. The best screws I’ve ever used for building 3/4” ply boxes.

Any other sizes that are good to have on hand?

I have two screw boxes currently setup, and a Systainer holds a little over half what a Packout, Toughbox, Ridgid, etc, holds. There are many different types of screws to keep on hand depending on what you are doing. Will some screws need to be corrosion proof for working with pressure treated? Simpson structural screws are often necessary. Drywall screws have their place. Cabinet screws are important to have, and GRK's work awesome! If possible Torx are the most user friendly screws.

The 9x3 1/8" screw is probably my most used GRK screw, followed by the 2.5" version. I also tear through 1 1/2" screws for which I buy them in a bulk 5,000 count box, but they are not GRK.

At this point in time my preference for a box to hold screws is the Milwaukee Packout. Size matters!

DeformedTree · « **Reply #16 on:** March 19, 2019, 10:21 PM »

I'd wish they would focus more on selling screws in bigger containers (with appropriate price discount). Also work to get them certified as replacement for nails in building code.

Peter_C · « **Reply #17 on:** March 19, 2019, 10:36 PM »

Quote from: DeformedTree on March 19, 2019, 10:21 PM

I'd wish they would focus more on selling screws in bigger containers (with appropriate price discount). Also work to get them certified as replacement for nails in building code.

Simpson screws are considered structural, and do come in bulk of 3,000. I tore through a box of these on my own earthquake retrofit. No way could I have nailed many of the connectors that were installed between joists.
http://www.dhcsupplies.com/store/p/4430-9-x-1-1/2-SD-Screws-3000/Bucket.html

DeformedTree · « **Reply #18 on:** March 19, 2019, 11:17 PM »

Yeah, I use them too, with the plates, I have done a lot of retro-fit, strengthening on my house.. I'm talking about general framing, just 3" screws. Sadly in the US code folks think all screws are drywall screws. Code people can't seam to adapt to the idea of screws/clamp load, they just want to continue to think about shear of nails. Thus still have to go back thru and put nails in too.

The boxes are way too few, screws per package, why they don't sell them in bigger containers just doesn't make sense. Plus their re-designed cardboard box design is awful.

Cheese · « **Reply #19 on:** March 20, 2019, 11:18 AM »

Quote from: DeformedTree on March 19, 2019, 10:21 PM

I'd wish they would focus more on selling screws in bigger containers (with appropriate price discount). Also work to get them certified as replacement for nails in building code.

I prefer GRK over Spax but sometimes Spax are just easier to find.

My most used GRK is the R4 #9 x 3 1/8" and the #9 x 2 1/2". They are available in boxes of 2000 pieces at real lumber yards.

I haven't used a lag bolt in years since the release of the RSS version. I've installed everything from wall mounted vanities to stainless railings with the RSS. Fantastic fastener.

I use GRK's trim head screws in 305 stainless for exterior cedar trim.

Here's a list of code approvals
https://www.grkfasteners.com/tech-data/code-approvals

My problem with using number 1 Systainers is how many would it take to hold 3 parachute bags of GRK fasteners and 1 parachute bag of Spax fasteners?

cpw · « **Reply #20 on:** March 20, 2019, 11:35 AM »

Quote from: Cheese on March 20, 2019, 11:18 AM

My problem with using number 1 Systainers is how many would it take to hold 3 parachute bags of GRK fasteners and 1 parachute bag of Spax fasteners?

I use a T-Loc sorttainer which is the same size as a SYS IV for my screws [mostly McFeely's square drive]. I would actually prefer if it were SYS III sized for this application, because loaded up with screws it is quite heavy. If you're going to be dense about packing it, then I'm not sure much bigger than SYS I is actually helpful.

Mario Turcot · « **Reply #21 on:** March 20, 2019, 12:01 PM »

Quote from: DynaGlide on March 19, 2019, 10:58 AM

Luckily I'm a GRK user. Now if they were to make a systainer loaded up with their cabinetry screws I would be in trouble.

@DynaGlide

I also use GRK screws and have 3 T-Lock mini with a 6 bins insert and a foam top. each mini can contains 1,200 GRK R4 1"1/4, 1"1/2, 1"3/4. Locks together & easy to carry.

Quote from: Cheese on March 20, 2019, 11:18 AM

Quote from: DeformedTree on March 19, 2019, 10:21 PM
I'd wish they would focus more on selling screws in bigger containers (with appropriate price discount). Also work to get them certified as replacement for nails in building code.

I prefer GRK over Spax but sometimes Spax are just easier to find.

My most used GRK is the R4 #9 x 3 1/8" and the #9 x 2 1/2". They are available in boxes of 2000 pieces at real lumber yards.

I haven't used a lag bolt in years since the release of the RSS version. I've installed everything from wall mounted vanities to stainless railings with the RSS. Fantastic fastener.

(Attachment Link)

I use GRK's trim head screws in 305 stainless for exterior cedar trim.

Here's a list of code approvals
https://www.grkfasteners.com/tech-data/code-approvals

My problem with using number 1 Systainers is how many would it take to hold 3 parachute bags of GRK fasteners and 1 parachute bag of Spax fasteners?

In a single Sys 1 you can probably put +4,000 GRK R4 3"1/2

DynaGlide · « **Reply #22 on:** March 20, 2019, 12:32 PM »

Quote from: Mario Turcot on March 20, 2019, 12:01 PM

Quote from: DynaGlide on March 19, 2019, 10:58 AM
Luckily I'm a GRK user. Now if they were to make a systainer loaded up with their cabinetry screws I would be in trouble.

@DynaGlide

I also use GRK screws and have 3 T-Lock mini with a 6 bins insert and a foam top. each mini can contains 1,200 GRK R4 1"1/4, 1"1/2, 1"3/4. Locks together & easy to carry.

Quote from: Cheese on March 20, 2019, 11:18 AM
Quote from: DeformedTree on March 19, 2019, 10:21 PM
I'd wish they would focus more on selling screws in bigger containers (with appropriate price discount). Also work to get them certified as replacement for nails in building code.

I prefer GRK over Spax but sometimes Spax are just easier to find.

My most used GRK is the R4 #9 x 3 1/8" and the #9 x 2 1/2". They are available in boxes of 2000 pieces at real lumber yards.

I haven't used a lag bolt in years since the release of the RSS version. I've installed everything from wall mounted vanities to stainless railings with the RSS. Fantastic fastener.

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I use GRK's trim head screws in 305 stainless for exterior cedar trim.

Here's a list of code approvals
https://www.grkfasteners.com/tech-data/code-approvals

My problem with using number 1 Systainers is how many would it take to hold 3 parachute bags of GRK fasteners and 1 parachute bag of Spax fasteners?

In a single Sys 1 you can probably put +4,000 GRK R4 3"1/2

@Mario Turcot Take a pic of your mini's sometime I'd like to see your setup.

Peter_C · « **Reply #23 on:** March 20, 2019, 02:43 PM »

Quote from: Cheese on March 20, 2019, 11:18 AM

My problem with using number 1 Systainers is how many would it take to hold 3 parachute bags of GRK fasteners and 1 parachute bag of Spax fasteners?

My screw box is the heaviest small tool box I own. Screw bags work well, although bins are removable from tool boxes too. Why would you use a Sys 1 when you can just put the screw bags into a Sys 2 or Sys 3? (I would go with something bigger myself in another brand IE: Packout.)

Someone's Packout I found on the internet. Hmmm...just realized I have another brand of box loaded with pop rivets.

My screws are still currently in a Ridgid box, which is modified and pop riveted to add the center bins, but eventually I will switch over to all Milwaukee and get rid of the 15 Ridgid tool boxes I currently own, or use them for other stuff.

Mario Turcot · « **Reply #24 on:** March 20, 2019, 02:43 PM »

@DynaGlide Here we go!

First picture: RSS & R4 screws

Second picture: Side view to show the foam thickness. Seal well the bins to not mix screws.

There is about 1,200 screws on the two R4 minis. You can probably fit 1,500

Henrik R / Pingvinlakrits · « **Reply #25 on:** March 29, 2019, 04:01 PM »

I want that Spaxtainer for my Hitachi 18V gear!!!

DashZero · « **Reply #26 on:** March 29, 2019, 04:07 PM »

Quote from: Henrik R / Pingvinlakrits on March 29, 2019, 04:01 PM

I want that Spaxtainer for my Hitachi 18V gear!!!

here are some Hitachi Systainer:

https://www.toolmax.nl/hitachi-systainer-hscii-hitachi-system-case-hsc-ii.html

https://www.gereedschappelijk.nl/hikoki-system-case-systainer-hsc-ii.html

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Hitachi-Transport-System-Stacking-402545/dp/B06XRHTYWX/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=Hitachi+System+Case&qid=1553890020&s=diy&sr=1-3-catcorr

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Hitachi-Suitcase-Stackable-hta402544-Stackable-System/dp/B06XCSB45B/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=Hitachi+System+Case&qid=1553890020&s=diy&sr=1-1-catcorr

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Hitachi-49-Piece-Socket-Set-Systainer/dp/B00P3UB6ZA

Henrik R / Pingvinlakrits · « **Reply #27 on:** March 30, 2019, 04:57 PM »

DashZero: thanks for the links- but those are not T-Loc. Those Hitachi Classic sys don't fit in well with the T-Locs so I gave away all the Systainers. Now they all ride in a Mafell Metal cart.

Maybe HiKoki will go T-loc eventually.

DashZero · « **Reply #28 on:** April 08, 2019, 04:32 PM »

I just received my SPAX Systainer direct from Germany to the USA. Ordered 2019-03-20 received 2019-04-08.

Very good customer service all done over email. https://www.dittmar-sba.de/SPAX-Box-systainer-T-Loc-I-mit-12-Abmessungen-WIROX-5000009172009.html

sebr023 · « **Reply #29 on:** February 15, 2023, 07:56 PM »

Quote from: DashZero on April 08, 2019, 04:32 PM

I just received my SPAX Systainer direct from Germany to the USA. Ordered 2019-03-20 received 2019-04-08.

Very good customer service all done over email. https://www.dittmar-sba.de/SPAX-Box-systainer-T-Loc-I-mit-12-Abmessungen-WIROX-5000009172009.html

Bit late to the party. Just found out this systainer and screws.

How much did you ended up paying with shipping and all?

Spax or GRK screws are so hard to find in Quebec, Canada.

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