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Offline Packard

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How does a pantorouter compare with a domino?
« on: August 31, 2021, 11:17 AM »
At another website someone was vacillating over whether to buy a Domino or a Pantorouter.  I was not familiar with the Pantorouter, but it seems to have the limitations of a stationary machine.  How would you see the merits of these two machines side by side.  They are priced out about the same.  The Pantorouter, it was mentioned, costs about $1,600.00.

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Offline ChuckS

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Re: How does a pantorouter compare with a domino?
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2021, 11:45 AM »
Based on the video, the pantorouter is lot more versatile than the Domino Joiner, at the expense of a deep learning curve and complicated set-up.

I do not view them as the same kind of machine, as the Domino Joiner is mostly a floating tenon joinery tool.

Offline rvieceli

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Re: How does a pantorouter compare with a domino?
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2021, 11:57 AM »
@Packard Very different animals. Pantorouter does a lot of different stuff. Domino is kind of a one trick pony, although it does it well.

Check out their website:

https://www.pantorouter.com/

Here's their Instagram feed:

https://www.instagram.com/pantorouter.usa/

Philip Morley uses the Pantorouter a lot in his process.

https://www.instagram.com/philipmorleyfurniture/

https://philipmorleyfurniture.com/

Ron
« Last Edit: August 31, 2021, 01:06 PM by rvieceli »

Offline Packard

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Re: How does a pantorouter compare with a domino?
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2021, 11:58 AM »
I would think that the domino would be easier to use for larger sheet goods like cabinets. 

Offline squall_line

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Re: How does a pantorouter compare with a domino?
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2021, 12:16 PM »
There's a "Take the work to the tool" vs "Take the tool to the work" aspect of the pantorouter vs. the domino as well.

From that sense, I wonder if the Shaper Origin isn't the more apt comparison.
« Last Edit: August 31, 2021, 12:37 PM by squall_line »

Offline ChuckS

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Re: How does a pantorouter compare with a domino?
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2021, 12:52 PM »
There's a "Take the work to the tool" vs "Take the tool to the work" aspect of the pantorouter vs. the domino as well.
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That's generally true.

I have seen several users mount their domino joiner on a station and use it as a stationary machine. The Kreg pocket-hole jigs come in different versions, May be Festool R&D is actually looking into developing a benchtop based Domino machine, or accessories for the machine to be used in a stationary mode.

 
« Last Edit: August 31, 2021, 12:55 PM by ChuckS »

Offline Birdhunter

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Re: How does a pantorouter compare with a domino?
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2021, 03:42 PM »
I watched a video on the machine…. Excellent. My first impression is that the machine would be great doing lots of the same thing, but not for small one off projects. The set up is complicated. I would have to pull out the manual after not using the machine for a while.
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Offline Packard

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Re: How does a pantorouter compare with a domino?
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2021, 04:18 PM »
I have a big heavy pocket hole jig that is a pleasure to use on face frames, but not so much on sheet goods.  So I have a small cheap one to use for sheet goods.

It is like, when to use a track saw or a table saw. The track saw excels at cutting larger pieces, but the table saw is better for small ones.  Same theory. 

Offline jarbroen

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Re: How does a pantorouter compare with a domino?
« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2021, 12:53 PM »
I watched a video on the machine…. Excellent. My first impression is that the machine would be great doing lots of the same thing, but not for small one off projects. The set up is complicated. I would have to pull out the manual after not using the machine for a while.

This is exactly why I sold the Hybrid Pantorouter.  If you're setting up for a whole bunch of matching M&T joints it was great.
If you're setting up for a quick, one off type thing, not great.  You're spending the same amount of time for the setup which sometimes can take well over 10 minutes of fiddling.
Once it's dialed in you can crank out a bunch of matching joints, M&T, dovetail, box, etc.  You're also reliant on templates - those sold by the Pantorouter guy or DIY.

It's great on stock, small to large.  I did my deck railing all M&T with the Pantorouter.
Now that I have the Domino machines I would have used those and saved a lot of time.
The Domino would also be the more practical tool for sheet goods.  The Domino 500 is definitely designed with that type of work in mind.

Like lots of tools, it really comes down to the type of projects you work on and your style.
If I had more time/patience I would have kept the Pantorouter.  It made all kinds of fancy, tight fitting joints accessible for even someone like me with little prior experience.
It would also be great for doing crazy, compound angled joints in furniture using the tilting table feature.

Offline Crazyraceguy

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Re: How does a pantorouter compare with a domino?
« Reply #9 on: September 13, 2021, 06:53 PM »
I have always thought they were cool and I would like to get my hands on one, but it's not necessary for what I do now, but I would never give up my Domino.
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